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A section for posts relating to applications for Naturalisation or Registration as a British Citizen. Naturalisation

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Indianlonly
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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:51 am

Indianlonly wrote:Any advice please from moderate i haved arrived to UK on May 2010 and I still keep my old passport with entrance stamp and I started work in June and I got payslips dAted in June 2010 and I work since then so I got 6 years proves taking into acount I applied my PR on May 2010 and was successful but I received the SAR and they confirmed I entitled the status of PR on October 2010 so that mean 5 monthes later even tho so clear from my work payslips on June plus my PR and all decuments proves I entitled PR on May 2015 not October 2010
Shall I apply now or wait till October ?

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Noetic » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:33 am

Indianlonly wrote:Any advice please from moderate i haved arrived to UK on May 2010 and I still keep my old passport with entrance stamp and I started work in June and I got payslips dAted in June 2010 and I work since then so I got 6 years proves taking into acount I applied my PR on May 2010 and was successful but I received the SAR and they confirmed I entitled the status of PR on October 2010 so that mean 5 monthes later even tho so clear from my work payslips on June plus my PR and all decuments proves I entitled PR on May 2015 not October 2010
Shall I apply now or wait till October ?
Is one of those 2010 dates meant to say 2015? You say above you "applied your PR May 2010" which doesn't seem possible. Did you mean 2015?

You need a document certifying PR to apply for citizenship and if you only arrived in 2010 you can't have applied for the DCPR in the same year. A residence card yes but not the DPCPR.

Anyway - If HO has October 2015 down as attaining PR then I don't think they'll let you apply for BC before then.

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:07 am

Here my timeline
Came to UK from India may 2010 (spouse EU)
Started work June 2010 till present
Apiplied PR in May 2015 was granted in January 2016
Issued date 10 January 2016
So may 2016 completed 6 so I ment to apply for BC last month
But I recieved SAR and they confirmed I entitled PR status in October 2015 which this wronge bcos I completed 5 years in May 2015 that's why I was granted such a PR
But why SAR confirmed it 5 month laters ? And if I should compete 5 years in October 2015 so they refuse my PR bcos i applied it in May 2015 but I was granted
So should I appy now for BC or wait till October?

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Noetic » Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:50 am

Indianlonly wrote:
But why SAR confirmed it 5 month laters ?
Why the HO does anything is a mystery as far as PR dates are concerned. Sometimes it can be because they count from the 1st time you entered the UK on a specific permit/visa/passport, or date a specific job started. But other times the date has no obvious relation to anything.

I have never heard of anyone contesting the PR date HO have on file but much more experienced forum members may have experience with this sort of thing.

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:02 pm

Anyone experienced Plz tell me a firm answer Plz

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:05 pm

Indianlonly wrote:Here my timeline
Came to UK from India may 2010 (spouse EU)
Started work June 2010 till present
Apiplied PR in May 2015 was granted in January 2016
Issued date 10 January 2016
So may 2016 completed 6 so I ment to apply for BC last month
But I recieved SAR and they confirmed I entitled PR status in October 2015 which this wronge bcos I completed 5 years in May 2015 that's why I was granted such a PR
But why SAR confirmed it 5 month laters ? And if I should compete 5 years in October 2015 so they refuse my PR bcos i applied it in May 2015 but I was granted
So should I appy now for BC or wait till October?

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:36 am

I'm still waiting answer from any guru or moderate my question is SAR confirm im intiteled PR status in October 2015 but I'm sure I aquired the status in May 2015 because I arrived to UK as spouse of EU in May 2010 and applied for conformation in May 2015 and was granted in December 2015 so the SAR date is wronge
So shall I send my AN now or wait till October ?

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Noetic » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:54 am

Answer remains the same I have never heard of anyone contesting PR date HO hold for them.

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Re: Naturalisation refused April 2016

Post by Indianlonly » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:02 am

LilyLalilu wrote:There was another member of the forum recently who did a SAR and reported that the HO mistakenly recorded their PR date as the issue date of the PR doc in the CID...so that may have happened to you as well, so annoying. Or maybe the nationality caseworker failed to follow the guidance correctly...
Do u think cid might be wrong ? I intiteled pr in May 2015 that's why I was granted the PR card in December 2015 so why SAR confirm it wronge (5 months later)

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:31 am

Noetic wrote:Answer remains the same I have never heard of anyone contesting PR date HO hold for them.
So I wait till October as SAR confirms ?

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Re: Naturalisation refused April 2016

Post by noajthan » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:47 am

Indianlonly wrote:Do u think cid might be wrong ? I intiteled pr in May 2015 that's why I was granted the PR card in December 2015 so why SAR confirm it wronge (5 months later)
Quite possible.
It's most likely a manual entry (how else could it be done).
  • Lack of joined up thinking;
    PR card does not support a 'date acquired' field;
    Poorly planned and rolled out change;
    Improperly or untrained staff;
    Lack of clear guidance (internal and external);
    Human error;
    Lack of visibility;
    Authorisation, crosschecking and verification processes unknown;
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Naturalisation refused April 2016

Post by Indianlonly » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:29 pm

noajthan wrote:
Indianlonly wrote:Do u think cid might be wrong ? I intiteled pr in May 2015 that's why I was granted the PR card in December 2015 so why SAR confirm it wronge (5 months later)
Quite possible.
It's most likely a manual entry (how else could it be done).
  • Lack of joined up thinking;
    PR card does not support a 'date acquired' field;
    Poorly planned and rolled out change;
    Improperly or untrained staff;
    Lack of clear guidance (internal and external);
    Human error;
    Lack of visibility;
    Authorisation, crosschecking and verification processes unknown;
Thank you so much noajthan for replay
The stamp of my first entrance in my old passport Nd istill got it
And I got all payslips for six years with 6 p60 and got PR issued 6 December 2015 but I aquired the status in May 2015 so shall I send my application in Monday nd ignoring the SAR wronge date ?
Thanx Alot :)

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Re: Naturalisation refused April 2016

Post by noajthan » Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:46 pm

Indianlonly wrote:Thank you so much noajthan for replay
The stamp of my first entrance in my old passport Nd istill got it
And I got all payslips for six years with 6 p60 and got PR issued 6 December 2015 but I aquired the status in May 2015 so shall I send my application in Monday nd ignoring the SAR wronge date ?
Thanx Alot :)
If SAR says October and if that reflects a date punched into HO CID system then caseworker is likely to assess your case based on the October date.
They may refuse your application and then you will have a battle to overturn such a refusal.
In effect you will have to prove your PR status all over again.

If you can't wait until October then suggest prepare your application and book via NCS.
NCS clerk can crosscheck with the HO hotline about dates.
If its July or whatever - all good. File the application.

Worst case you lose the NCS fee and have to wait until October (or whenever the date is) to reapply.
But you didn't risk the full AN fee.

Applying now, facing a refusal then going to reconsideration is likely to take even longer.
So (if it proves necessary) a wait until October isn't the end of the world.
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:19 pm

Thanx A lot
I'm going to India for two months to visit my family so I will back and apply in October
I have all proves since May 2010 but I won't risk it and wait till October .
Cheers

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:09 pm

Hiii all
I sent my application for citezenship yesterday and I included all the decuments needed since I came from India in may 2010
And I stated in my cover later that I have started work immediately with my work contract and and all payslips since I started work for 6 years and explained my point of view why I send my application now not in October and CID wrong with their aquired pr date
I planned to wait till October but after brexit I don't know what will happen .
Here my timeline
Arrived from India in May 2010
Applied for residence which was granted
Divorced in 2013 and ror was issued new card
Applied for PR in in May 2015 and was issued in December
Based UK exams Nd ilets
Applied for bc in 25 June 2016
Waiting biometric letter
All the best for all and I will keep update
Cheers

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:05 pm

Anyone know the process of bc application ?
Send mine two days ago via post

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by confuzzled83 » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:34 pm

Hi

I am a EU citizen and I entered started working in the UK in Jan 2008. I have successfully applied for the my PR document in June 2016. I am confused by the text below. I applied for my PR before the new guidelines came out so I supplied the paperwork from 2011-2016. Does this mean that I still have to wait until 2017 to apply for my citizenship or is the example referencing the paperwork to send with the citizenship (rather than how I should have applied for my PR_?

Any clarification would be fantastic.
But remember that, unless you are married to or the civil partner of a British citizen, you
should normally have held permanent resident status for 12 months before applying for
naturalisation. This means that you may need to wait until you have been in the United
Kingdom for 6 years before you can apply. When you apply for a permanent residence
document the evidence that you supply for your EEA(PR) application must be for a 5 year
period that ended at least a year before you want to apply for citizenship.

For example:
If you apply for Permanent Residence on 1st December 2015 and want to apply for
Citizenship once that application is decided, you should send evidence that shows you
were exercising Treaty rights as a qualified person or family member from 1 December
2009 to 1 December 2014.

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:22 pm

Just quick question please
My best friend is filling his AN and he is willing me to help him for referee , can I be the main referee for him
I work as manager in registered company London but I'm British yet So can be the professional referee not British ?
Can be second referee British but not professional ?

Thank you for advanced

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by noajthan » Sun Aug 21, 2016 5:30 pm

Indianlonly wrote:Just quick question please
My best friend is filling his AN and he is willing me to help him for referee , can I be the main referee for him
I work as manager in registered company London but I'm British yet So can be the professional referee not British ?
Can be second referee British but not professional ?

Thank you for advanced
Yes.
Yes.
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by Indianlonly » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:20 pm

noajthan wrote:
Indianlonly wrote:Just quick question please
My best friend is filling his AN and he is willing me to help him for referee , can I be the main referee for him
I work as manager in registered company London but I'm British yet So can be the professional referee not British ?
Can be second referee British but not professional ?

Thank you for advanced
Yes.
Yes.
Sorry I meant I'm not British yet ,

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Re: Applaying for British citizen eu route

Post by noajthan » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:20 pm

Indianlonly wrote:Sorry I meant I'm not British yet ,
I got that and that parameter is already factored into my previous response.
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