General Medical Council (GMC) registration under EC rights

Post by **geriatrix** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:20 pm

Suggest that all (supposedly) exempt persons .. specially those with non-EEA qualifications / regulatory registrations .... should read Section 19 of the Medical Act.

Section 19(2)(c) and 19(3) in particular.

dradilmahmood · Post by **dradilmahmood** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:45 pm

thnx for the update guyzzzz

toabetterchange · Post by **toabetterchange** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:02 pm

chursy wrote:Dradil

GMC provides good guidance around the documentation aspect. I attached the following documents.

1) Copy of my passport with the Family Permit endorsed by Home office UK and Resident Card stamped by GNIB (Republic of Ireland).
2) Copy of the graduate degree
3) Certificate of good standing
4) Certificate of registration as a medical student
5) Provisional Certificate of Medical registration (for one year)
6) Copy of the Residence Card under directive 2004/38/EC
7) Copy of the GNIB Card
8 ) Copy of PPS Number from Ireland
9) Copy of Marriage Certificate in English.
10) Copy of the British National Passport
11) Copy of tenancy agreement in Dublin for 2010 and 2009, as proof of residence.
12) Utility Bills supporting the tenancy agreements as proof of residence
13) Employment Payslips and contract for UK National employed in dublin
14) Bank Statements for accounts held in Ireland.
15) P45 from KPMG Ireland, as relocated to UK now.

Pretty much the whole Shabang!

However the situation i am in the moment, GMC is looking for certificate of Good Standing for her from the Pakistan Medical and Dental Council. I will have to arrange that which will take sometime, being PAKISTAN!!!. they havent said anything about the documentation so i would imagine it was all ok.

Hi chursy,

Just a question:

In the list of documentation, do you need to provide your syllabus of your qualification?

chursy · Post by **chursy** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:02 am

Not sure to be honest.

I didnt, but i am sure if they need it they will let you know. Good luck

dradilmahmood · Post by **dradilmahmood** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:34 am

any update for it chursy???

chursy · Post by **chursy** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:35 pm

thanks for asking.

GMC have now been supplied the registration and good standing certificate documents they were looking for. My case has been referred to a complex case team in GMC as there has been a GAP from the time i graduated to date, this has mainly been due to the fact that i was on maternity leave and got married etc.But the reality is unless i am registered with a council my options are limited in any case!

Still in process , hoping to hear from them this week.

Wish me luck!

dradilmahmood · Post by **dradilmahmood** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:16 pm

ok chursy

Best of luck for it...may be i will be travelling there in next June if they give me FP after that i will apply for it.

but in the meantime i will arrange all the papers

once again best of luck

dranil · Post by **dranil** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:02 pm

chursy wrote:Hi guys,

i am a spouse of a british national and currently residing in Dublin since March 2010. I currently hold a spouse Dependant visa here which is provided upon exercising EU treaty rights in the republic of Ireland.

I am a qualified doctor , having completed my degree from a Non-Eu country, would like to register with the GMC UK exercising the EC/EU rights , as per the condition listed per their website below :-

http://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/registrat ... rights.asp

There are certain exemptions based on the EC rights. I understand that i a qualify under the 3aii clause on the link above being Non Eu spouse of a british national who is residing in an EU state for the sole purpose of job etc.

Can someone please help me clarify a few things here:-

1) is my understanding based on the above information correct? will i be eligible under the EU rights?

2) GMC require specific clause of the legislation from EC rights under which i qualify? Can someone please provide me with this information?

I have been advised by GMC that i will have to prove to them that i am exercising EU rights in order to gain full exception.

any help from someone who is currently going through this or otherwise can help me would be much appreciated.

thanks

hello ,somehow i am in the similar situation ,i (indian citizen)am married to an UK citizen,i work in ireland now & my wife stays with me in ireland (uk citizen) ,my primary and post graduation medical degrees are from Bulgaria which is in EU. i must prove that my wife exercises EU community right so that i will be a exempt person.any idea how can i prove that to GMC.

i think i fall under this ....3. Those who are not nationals of an EEA state or Switzerland and who are: a. the spouse/civil partner/partner (for a definition of partner see below) registered under the law of an EEA state of:ii. a UK national having resided in another relevant European state as a worker, self-employed person, or self sufficient person, or (in the case of an EEA state) pursuant to the three month right to reside under the Citizenship Directive;

Post by **geriatrix** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:37 pm

What does your British citizen spouse do in Ireland? Is she employed or self-employed or student or self-sufficient person?

dranil · Post by **dranil** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:39 pm

sushdmehta wrote:What does your British citizen spouse do in Ireland? Is she employed or self-employed or student or self-sufficient person?

she works in london 3 days in a week and 4 days she stays in ireland.
she doesnt work in ireland.i work in ireland. she comes under self sufficient person?

Post by **geriatrix** » Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:19 pm

dranil wrote:she works in london 3 days in a week and 4 days she stays in ireland.
she doesnt work in ireland.i work in ireland. she comes under self sufficient person?

Does she have a comprehensive sickness insurance cover in Ireland?

dranil · Post by **dranil** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:05 am

sushdmehta wrote:
dranil wrote:she works in london 3 days in a week and 4 days she stays in ireland.
she doesnt work in ireland.i work in ireland. she comes under self sufficient person?
Does she have a comprehensive sickness insurance cover in Ireland?

i am not sure .. she has one in UK, is that valid through out EU?
i can double check it . what if she has?will it serve the purpose?

Post by **geriatrix** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:48 pm

It is my understanding that a EEA national requires comprehensive medical insurance in the host member state to be considered as "self-sufficient" person under EU directives.

dranil · Post by **dranil** » Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:06 pm

sushdmehta wrote:It is my understanding that a EEA national requires comprehensive medical insurance in the host member state to be considered as "self-sufficient" person under EU directives.

so obtaining a comprehensive medical insurance will help?

Aryan2013 · Post by **Aryan2013** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:02 pm

"On Wednesday night, Andrew Lansley, the Health Secretary, said he was already seeking to stop doctors with poor English practising in this country but added that he was concerned about the impact of EU diktats."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healt ... n-NHS.html

dradilmahmood · Post by **dradilmahmood** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:25 am

as now my FP issued Allhumdulillah

now my next step is to apply for plab exemption with gmc any advice on this issue?

i have to contact gmc thru email and ask them what to do further

they ask for residence proof i think...so in case if they ask can i give them my cousin address in uk where i will stay initially after arrival?would that suffice or should i take my own residence in uk and then apply for it?

nonspecifics · Post by **nonspecifics** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:21 pm

Just a reminder that : " The language of this board is English."

dradilmahmood · Post by **dradilmahmood** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:31 pm

yes and our medium of instruction was also english

i think so i would contact gmc tmorrow

Memmess · Post by **Memmess** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:45 pm

Hello guys
I was wondering about my chance of being registred in the GMC under EC rights.....Have u seen any similar cases????
I currently live in France and we plan to move to UK , but i'm not authorised to practice medicine in France.
Thanks alot for ur help

khandolphin · Post by **khandolphin** » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:43 pm

hi, i am a wife of British national and i have ILR .....
i wnat to know that if i and my husband goes to any Eu country for 3 months and after that come back to UK then
can i exempt for plab and get registeration from GMC.

dradilmahmood · Post by **dradilmahmood** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:26 pm

[quote="khandolphin"] hi, i am a wife of British national and i have ILR .....
i wnat to know that if i and my husband goes to any Eu country for 3 months and after that come back to UK then
can i exempt for plab and get registeration from GMC. [/quote]

he have to work in another eu country so that you can apply for gmc plab exemption

NG1983 · Post by **NG1983** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:04 pm

hi guys [please i need an update on this exemption, as i think i can be exempted based on thefact that i obtained my primary medical qualification outside EU/UK but am married to an EEA national residing in uk....and exercising treaty right with me obtaining a resiency permit...please what document does GMC need, how do i contact gmc, i had aleeady done and was told if i think i can qualify as anexempt person i should provide the required document.please i need someone who has bn there to help me with the list of documents...please guys i need help asap/,HOW DO I PROCEED???i think i have all the documents, but i need to know the documents that r requested.....pls guys help

dradilmahmood · Post by **dradilmahmood** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:20 pm

Yes you have to apply providing evidence of ur spouse exercising treaty rights only copies

Your valid family permit or residence card copy
Your degree copy
Your internship certificate copy
Your experience certificate copies
They can ask other things like consultant report forms to be filled by ur consultant
And any other things dependent on your case

NG1983 · Post by **NG1983** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:36 pm

dradilmahmood wrote:Yes you have to apply providing evidence of ur spouse exercising treaty rights only copies

Your valid family permit or residence card copy
Your degree copy
Your internship certificate copy
Your experience certificate copies
They can ask other things like consultant report forms to be filled by ur consultant
And any other things dependent on your case

please how did you contact GMC/?ON THE PHONE, OFFICE ETC, ANY NO TO GET INTOUCH, DO YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE CERT ICATE OF GOOD STANDING?OR MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE , OR PARTNERS PASSPORT OR ID CARD..DO I NEED TO PROVIDE PARTNERS PAYSLIP, EMPLOYMENT CONTRCT.WHICH ONE IS CONSULTANT REPORT FORM, I GUESS THE INTERNSHIP CERTIFICATE AND EXPERIENCE CERTIFICATE ARE THOSE FORM,A THATY YOU FILLED TOWRDS THE END OF YOUR INTERNSHIP, THAT WERE SIGNED BY YOUR CONSULTANT...

MY CASE IS A NON EU DOCTOR OBTAINED PRIMARY MEDICAL CERTIFICATE OUTSIDE EEA/UK BUT WHO IS MARRIED TO AN EEA IN UK EXERCISING TREATY RIGHT, I HAVE MY RESIDENCE CARD.DO I NEED TO PROVIDE ANY DOCUMENT FROM MY PARTNER?PLEASE REPLY BCOS I WANT TO MAKE THE APPLICATION NEXTWEEK.
AGAIN DOC, HOW DID YOU CONTACT GMC TO PROCEED WT YOU APPLICATION

dradilmahmood · Post by **dradilmahmood** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:03 pm

I have written in your pvt msg the docs i provided with my application

And for application you have to contact gmc by email

You can contact them by phone also for quick response

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