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webhunter · Post by **webhunter** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:26 am

As per the guidelines, there is no mention of accepting consolidated payslips as valid proof.

I am afraid the only option for you is to re-apply, but I would'nt discourage you from making an appeal.

deep_rp · Post by **deep_rp** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:30 am

Thanks webhunter,
Does re-appeal take longer?

Thanks
Deepak

nakvis · Post by **nakvis** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:30 am

My Application is rejected with not submitted original Income Tax Returns reason.

I did submit my SARAL form with seal of ITO on it.

I did send for review explaing the procedure followed in India for ITR.

Will let you guys know the status once I hear something about.

Regards

deep_rp · Post by **deep_rp** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:33 am

Nakvis,
Did you submit another evidence along with Payslips and ITR as earnings proof?

Thanks
Deepak

nakvis · Post by **nakvis** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:42 am

Hi,

Yes, I did submit Bank Statements, Pay slips and Tax returns.

They confirmed me in the letter that I have submitted the evidence to prove the income and the reason for refusal is only 'Not submitted Original ITR'.

I think these guys should be aware of ITR formats and procedures of different countries....

Regards

deep_rp · Post by **deep_rp** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:45 am

Hi,
My case is similar to yours. I also submitted the Saral. But no mention of that is made in the rejection letter. Maybe it depends on the case worker. But I did not tick the box for IT returns. I wrote an exception that it is not covering the full year in consideration. Did you do something similar?

Thanks
Deepak

nakvis · Post by **nakvis** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:50 am

Hi,

I mentioned in a cover letter which explains them clearly that ITR is only for part of the year.

I think my case worker might have not seen Indian ITR earlier....so he denied....

Regards

nakvis · Post by **nakvis** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:18 am

Hi,

Any idea on how much they take for review requests normally???

Pooya · Post by **Pooya** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:34 am

Hi Guys

I recieved my application result today.

It is refused.

I am preparing a new fresh application as soon as possible.

Do you want to know the reasons?
* I didn't put P60 form for "Tax Return", so they didn't accept my income at all -- 0 points
* Although I had put mY original degree certificate, they didn't accept it as 5 points for studying in the UK, they said you needed to have additionally a letter from your university saying that you have studied there, this reason was rediculous.
* I had put notarized copy of my passport for my birth certificate, but they didn't accept the reason to consider the exceptional considerations.

Please help me, I am going to make another fresh application:

* I will get the P60 form from my employer, then my salary will be approved hopefully
* I will obtain the formally translated page of my original birth certificate (Iran)

My questions:
* Do they acccept the formaly translated page of my original birth certificate at all? Is it acceptable it will be translated in Iran, orit should be translated in UK in a company?!
* Payslips should be signed and stamped?
* I have 1500 pounds Bonus in one of the months, should it be stated in the company letter as well?

Many thanks for your answers

nnj10 · Post by **nnj10** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:37 am

Hi All,

As expected, I received my REJECTION letter today, with the following reason:

Total Points Claimed: 95
Total Points Awarded: 95

Rejected because the english language requirement was not met:

Reason of Rejection:
"The Qualification is not recognised as equivalent to IELTS Band 6 by NARIC."

After sending my application and seeing the rejections here, I started sensing that this could be the only possible section, where they can reject. and that is what has happened.

I would be grateful, if Any one can quickly help me, I wanna send a new application, with IELTS.
How long does it take to get the through the IELTS, I am not worried for the preparation, that I am ready to give in a one week also, but how long does it take to get the result?

Pls. help.

Thanks,
NNJ10

shockboy2000 · Post by **shockboy2000** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:43 am

that sucks a lot, esp if you got 95 points. What exactly did your letter from university say?

It seems people need to get NARIC letter not only to confirm UK bachelors/masters/PhD equivalency - but to also state the English equivalency. Otherwise do IELTS.

nnj10 · Post by **nnj10** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:54 am

Hi Shockboy,

It really does....but me not complaining...rather I would sit for IELTS.

Hey, you know they did not specify in Appl.form or Guidance notes, that the Qualification gained should be equivalnet to the IELTS Band 6.
But now the rejection letter, says the Qualification obtained is not equivalnet to IELTS Band 6 (as per NARIC).

My University lettes clearly states that the Qualification was taught in English.

This is really a miss, on HSMP Team side that they did not include, in the Guidance notes, otheriwse, I could have requested to check the NARIC for the comparability of my Qualification with IELTS 6 (Probably NARIC doesnot have any startight forward such service, as far as I know)

Well, I am now planning to sit IELTS.

NNJ10

shockboy2000 · Post by **shockboy2000** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:57 am

i agree it doesnt say that.

as far as i am concerned, youve done exactly what they asked.

are you going to appeal/ask for review first ?

you may as well do that, but sit IELTS whilst waiting for review decision.

freebirds · Post by **freebirds** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:57 am

nnj10,

very sorry for the rejection..
what i would suggest is to spend some 150 pounds and get the NARIC done in a day or two and send the review again..
instead of sitting for ielts (if could u write, thats even better), better go for naric.

good luck mate

nnj10 · Post by **nnj10** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:59 am

Shockboy,

I donot see review request is going to help.
But not decided for review yet.

Anyway, I will send a new application with IELTS.

NNJ10

shockboy2000 · Post by **shockboy2000** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:02 pm

the problem with doing the NARIC and spending the 150, is that HO should in theory be looking at the same database. Therefore the seperate letter from NARIC would not say that the qualification was taught at IELTS 6 level

also, its additional evidence which cant be sent for review.

unless of course u were sure NARIC believe it is taught at IELTS6 or higher, and you use a NARIC letter to prove the original decision was wrong

shockboy2000 · Post by **shockboy2000** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:03 pm

nnj10 wrote:Shockboy,

I donot see review request is going to help.
But not decided for review yet.

Anyway, I will send a new application with IELTS.

NNJ10

it is free

simply say that you have met all the criteria they mentioned. The new guidelines are supposed to be transperant etc
Obviously they are not...

freebirds · Post by **freebirds** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:06 pm

shock,

though two people look at the same database, the way they look differs...

NARIC is a specialist organization where as case worker is our friendly neighbour. so u can expect some diff in the way the equivalency is tested

thanks

nnj10 · Post by **nnj10** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:07 pm

Hi Shockboy,

I like your reasoning..pls. share mre such points that could help me...

BTW, I got the letter from NARIC for the degree comparison for my bachelor degree, and it says that the Bachelor degree is comparable to the British Bachelor standard. It doesnot mention that the degree was taught in English and is above/below IELTS 6, and which is not the requiremement.

NNJ10

Pooya · Post by **Pooya** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:09 pm

Please can someone let me know how long does it take to get P60 from employer?

shockboy2000 · Post by **shockboy2000** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:11 pm

freebirds wrote:shock,

though two people look at the same database, the way they look differs...

NARIC is a specialist organization where as case worker is our friendly neighbour. so u can expect some diff in the way the equivalency is tested

thanks

exactly my reason for asking for a FREE review first.

another caseworker may take another view on the whole thing. nnj10 has supplied what was requested by HO perfectly so i am surprised caseworker is looking at NARIC db at all.

if you're going to get NARIC letter - then make sure you ask NARIC in covering letter to state the English level in their letter too...but HO say they have already checked it specifically for the English part.

shockboy2000 · Post by **shockboy2000** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:15 pm

if u already have paid for NARICS services previously, it would be interesting to call them up and see if they will tell you over the phone what information they hold regarding English level of your foreign degree.

They might be willing to tell you, if u have already paid them some $$$ in the past

Then they may even send you a letter out for free, or worst case scenario - you know what the letter will say re: English if you have to pay for it

Pooya · Post by **Pooya** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:20 pm

What is NARICS for?

nnj10 · Post by **nnj10** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:23 pm

Shockboy,

I agree with you, As it was not transparent, and was never mentioned in the guidance notes that the degree should be equivalent to the IELTS Band 6.0

I will prepare a review request now, and send it to HSMP team.

If you can suggest and such points which could help in reverting the decision.

I had done a lot of hardwork in collecting the documents, and I got score of 95 also as claimed, since the NARIC equivalency of IELTS Band 6 was not mentioed in the guidancenotes, I have not appeared in IELTS, otherwise, I could have done that too.

Thanks a lot,
NNJ10

shockboy2000 · Post by **shockboy2000** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:23 pm

NARIC is organisation in UK who determine if a FOREIGN academic qualification is equivalent to a UK academic qualification

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