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Post by ~J~ » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:47 am

For Past earnings I am claiming for the period Aug'06 to July'07 -
I worked in 2 different companies.
1st company - 1 June 06 to 30 Nov 06
2nd company - 1 Dec 06 till date

- I have my payslips stamped and signed by respective employers (easy)
- I have Income Tax returns for the tax year April 06 to Mar 07

in the guidelines its mentioned clearly that "If the tax year does
not cover the full period claimed other corroborating evidence is required for the period(s) not covered."

as my first company gave me cheques and i deposited in another bank so till nov'06 my bank statement doesnt reflect the cheque details that it is from so n so company

and another company i.e. after December 06 i was given a corporate account which started in Jan 07 so only after Jan my salary got directly credited to the account... So the bank statement after Jan reflects the company salary...

Hence, even if i get the bank statements whcih are from X n Y Banks. the X bank doesnt have any mention abt the first company and the Y bank has the ccompany salary mentioned but after Jan 07.

and lastly, getting the letter from the employer confirming income is slighlty doubtful.
i ll try! one doubt here too about getting the letter from employer- since i worked in 1st company from Jun'06 to Nov'06 and for HSMP i am claiming from Aug'06. So, shall I ask my employer to give me a letter to state my income earned from Jun'06 or Aug'06????

Am applying this month end!!! please clarify my details and wish me good luck that all goes well...

Thanks a ton in advance!!!

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Post by cdraina » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:56 am

Hi J,

My understanding of Your case:

Employer A: Worked till Nov, pays through cheque, Got Sal slips from here

Employer B: Worked from Dec, pays into the bank, got sal slips from here


I would suggest you to send your bank statements, highlighting (literally with a marker) all the salary credits (direct or thru cheques). If the amounts in the statement talley exactly with the amounts mentioned in the sal slips, you will get the points for this section.

Also do remember to clearly describe your case. So mention that you got salary from employer A through cheques and you have highlighted all the salary credits to assist in assessment of your application.

Best wishes,
CD

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Post by rrst_101 » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:03 am

llcool wrote:Hi Vinay,

I know the number is always busy. I tried calling them by around 3 their time and it worked. Trust me this number is always busy. So buddy try try and try.
# you are trying is perfectly okay. No prefixes just the country code.

Let me know whatever happens. Mine is also about to be processed in a day or two. Fingers are crossed.

Best of luck
llcool
Hi llcool,
How are u so sure that ur app. will b processed in a day or two ? I am a little curious coz, I got my reference no. on July 10th and expecting the decision by July end. Is there some way u r tracking ur application?

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Post by ~J~ » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:36 am

Thanks CD!

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Post by fly2uk » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:18 pm

vinay_sambyal wrote:
fly2uk wrote:Hi All,

Am almost done with my application, but I have a few issues in some sections. Guys pls help me out on this.

I am applying from Bangalore, India.

1> I got a DD from ICICI Bank bangalore for 400 GBP, in favor of Home Office, Work Permits ( UK ). Now in the payment details section of the application form, the choices for mode of payment are UK Postal Order, UK Cheque and Credit Card. Do I need to select UK Postal Order or UK Cheque here?

2> Under the qualifications section, do I need to answer both Q 24 and Q 25 or one of those. I hold a Bachelor of Engineering degree from VTU, Karnataka. So do I need to answer Q 24 treating my degree as academic qualification or Q 25 treating my degree as professional / vocational qualification? I do not intend to include NARIC letter.

3> In the past earnings section, for country where income do I need to mention the band in which the country falls or just the country name. In my case India, Band D.
Similarly for the income band, do I mention Band D or GBP XXXX+.

Guys pls advise on these.

Thanks
FM
fly2uk,
so what option did u choose for the DD that u made from ICICI.. postal order or cheque??
UK Cheque

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Post by llcool » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:00 pm

Hey rrst_101,

When i called them the rep actually after around 10 mins of conversation was able to tell me that case worker has already started working on 10 th of July and the said there should be decision by 25th.
Not sure if they generally share this information or not (m not even sure if the info she gave me regarding decision by 25th is correct or not) so all we have to do is WAIT!!!!

Lets see will keep you all guys posted and i expect the same from you.

llcool

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Post by rrst_101 » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:07 am

llcool wrote:Hey rrst_101,

When i called them the rep actually after around 10 mins of conversation was able to tell me that case worker has already started working on 10 th of July and the said there should be decision by 25th.
Not sure if they generally share this information or not (m not even sure if the info she gave me regarding decision by 25th is correct or not) so all we have to do is WAIT!!!!

Lets see will keep you all guys posted and i expect the same from you.

llcool
Hey llcool,
I called the HO last evening and guess what ,the decision was made just 10 minutes before I called. But the caseworker did not reveal the decision.I tried a lot to get it out of his mouth,be he dint. I have made the courier arrangements now,lets c what happens.

My timelines :
Docs sent : 29 June
Docs recived : 3 July
Refrence no. received : 10 July
Decision made : 24 July

Waiting for the docs. This is my longest wait ever...:)


Cheers,
rrst_101

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Post by fly2uk » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:13 am

Good Luck rrst_101 !!

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Post by llcool » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:37 pm

Hi rrst,

Best of luck.

Lets see what happens. Its good that u have made courier arrangements. It will save you from many sleepless nights. :D

Did u ask the rep itself for the courier arrangements or you faxed later on? and how did you manage the complete courier process.

Best of luck again.
Llcool

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Post by rrst_101 » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:57 am

llcool wrote:Hi rrst,

Best of luck.

Lets see what happens. Its good that u have made courier arrangements. It will save you from many sleepless nights. :D

Did u ask the rep itself for the courier arrangements or you faxed later on? and how did you manage the complete courier process.

Best of luck again.
Llcool
Hi llcool,
As soon as I got the ref # , I sent a fax saying that I will make my own courier arrangements. Then ,as soon as the decision was made on my application, the caseworker sent me a mail asking me to arrange for courier within 14 days (else after 14 days will send by royal mail). I contatced my friend in UK and asked him to arrange for courier through UPS service. My friend needed to give the following details to UPS guys :

1) Name of the caseworker :
2) Direct contact telephone number of the Caseworker :
3)Courier collection address: HSMP Team, Home Office, Moorfoot, Sheffield, S1 4PQ .
4)Name of the building, where the documents are held: Moorfoot.
5)Your HSMP Reference Number :
6)Full name of the HSMP applicant:
7)Full address of the HSMP applicant to which the documents and the decision letter have to be delivered:
8)Direct contact number of the HSMP applicant:

Then my friend had to make an upfront payment for the courier charges and book a courier (It costs 45 GBP).Please note that after the payment is made, the courier guys will give u a courier reference number, which has to be informed to the HSMP team.

Once the courier was arranged, I had to send an e-mail to the HSMP caseworker, who had sent me the courier arrangement e-mail. The email:

Dear Caseworker's name,

I hope you are doing well.

I am ******* and my HSMP Reference Number is ******. As per your request, I have made arrangements for the pick up of my original documents and decision letter, through UPS courier tommorrow (**/**/****).

This is the reference which you need to quote to the courier guys : ******
I request you to kindly hand over my Original Documents and Decision Letter to the courier person.

I look forward for your cooperation in this matter.

If you need any further clarification, do write to me.

Good Day!

Regards,
******** ******

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Post by llcool » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:00 am

Nice stuff!!!

thanks rrst

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Post by Kaff » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:53 am

What if I didn't mention on my covering letter that I would like arrange for my document pickup,
can I still arrange it?
Kaff

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Post by ~J~ » Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:10 am

Dear All~

Can you tell which mode of fee pay is the best?

Cheque - Never made an international cheque before. Plus doubtful if the currency rates change when the cheque reaches there.

Credit Card - I dont have my own. If I choose to use then ill be using my sister's card. Dont know if I can do that.

No clue abt the DD though I read quiet a few people sending DDs but I there is no mention abt DD in the Hsmpguidelines. It rather says UK Postal order.

Am confused as i dont want my application to be sent back just for the fee problem.

Please help!!![/b]

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My HSMP Update

Post by cdraina » Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:15 am

Called HO on 26th. The automated system says " Currently working on applications received on 28th June". Looks like they are not keen on updating that announcement. I sent my application on 9th July and the case worker is assigned. I have sent additional documents that have reached HO, but not yet linked to my file.

Application Submitted: 4th July
Application reached HO: 9th July
Fee debited: 10th July
Got Reference Number and Payment confirmation: 11th July
Sent additional documents: 23rd July
Assigned to caseworker: 26th July

Wish me luck friends!

Cheers!
CD

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Post by rrst_101 » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:01 am

Kaff wrote:What if I didn't mention on my covering letter that I would like arrange for my document pickup,
can I still arrange it?

Hi Kaff,
Actually even I had forgotten to mention the courier arrangements in my cover letter. But you can send a fax stating :


July 20, 2007

Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (HSMP)
PO Box 3975
Sheffield
S1 9BL

Sub: Courier Arrangement


Dear Sir/Madam,


I **** *** am applying for the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme. My HSMP Reference Number is 000000.

I would like to arrange for a courier to collect my original documents. I request the HSMP Team to provide me details of the contact person, date of pick up etc., once a decision is made on my HSMP application, so that I can make the required arrangements.

If you have any questions or comments, please call me on *********** or E-mail:****@gmail.com.


Regards,
***** *****

Sign on the letter and fax it to +44 114 207 6021.

But make sure before sending the fax that decision is not yet made on ur application. How it works is, as soon as the decision is made the CW checks if u have it mentioned on the cover letter or if u have faxed. If neither is true, then he updates ur case to be sent thru Royal mail.

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Post by Kaff » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:42 am

Thanks rrst.
I finished sending an email to them and waiting for there response.

Any reliable service apart from DHL or Fedex? both of them asking arounf 75 GPB to NZ, is that standard rate?

Thanks
Kaff

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Post by cdraina » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:46 am

try UPS

www.ups.com

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Post by rrst_101 » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:34 am

Kaff wrote:Thanks rrst.
I finished sending an email to them and waiting for there response.

Any reliable service apart from DHL or Fedex? both of them asking arounf 75 GPB to NZ, is that standard rate?

Thanks
UPS service is quite reliable. You can get an idea of their charge..u need to enter some details and it will give an approximate cost and time required to deliver.www.ups.com
And note that,theu have 2 diff. kinds of service..Express saver(which is cheaper) and theres one more,cant remember which is expensive. But that has insurance cover and stuff.

I went for Express Saver.....as per their estimate it shud reach my doorstep by tommorrow evening...
will let u know if it really reached or no..:)

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Post by Kaff » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:55 am

Hi, Thanks for the info.
It also cost around 70 GPB.. I guess that would be the value I have to pay..
I am waiting for HO response, will do as appropriate after response.
Thanks so much for help and guidance.
Kaff

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Post by cdraina » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:53 am

Hi friends,

For a review request of initial decision, do we need to send all the documents again? Or just the review request letter?

Cheers!
CD

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Post by ~J~ » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:56 am

CD, you got to know the decision made on your Hsmp?

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Post by cdraina » Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:01 pm

J,

Not yet, but I am expecting a decision today or early next week. I am not very positive about things due to the ITR issue.

So thought will take a heads up on info about review process.

Any idea about the documents to be sent with review application?

Best wishes!
CD

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Post by ~J~ » Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:19 pm

Dear CD

dont worry i hope that you get a approval!!

since you asked... i saved a format which i came across in this forum... it is regarding ITR issue... hope it helps... the thread link is at the bottom...

My best wishes again!


To DT:
Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (HSMP)
PO Box 3468
Sheffield
S3 8WA

Dear Sir/Madam,

Ref: HSMP Initial Approval Application with Ref No: XXXXX.

Sub: Request for your Review and Re-consideration of the HSMP Initial
Approval Application of MR.XXXXXX.

This is to bring to your kind notice that I, XXXXX, have applied for the HSMP Initial Approval on the 5th of XX 2007. I was provided with a reference number: XX and on the 21st XX2007, a decision was made on my Application and unfortunately, my Application was refused.

REASON FOR REFUSAL

I have provided you with my last 12 month Original salary slips as 1st Evidence.
I have provided you with my Original IT returns (ITR1) for the financial year 2006-2007 as 2nd Evidence.

My application was refused with a reason stating that SARAL form is the acceptable evidence towards Tax return from INDIA and that the ITR1, which I have provided as an evidence for Tax return, is not acceptable. Hence no points for previous earnings category were awarded.

MY CLARIFICATION

Income Tax Department of India has amended the rule concerning the forms used to file Income Tax returns with effect from 14th May 2007.As a result of this amendment in the Income Tax rule, the SARAL form is now SCRAPPED and is REPLACED with 8 other types of forms.

They are ITR1, ITR2, ITR3, ITR4, ITR5, ITR6, ITR7 & ITR8.This amendment in the rule is officially published with the title,

INCOME-TAX (FOURTH AMENDMENT) RULES, 2007
NOTIFICATION NO.169/2007, DATED 14-5-2007

And is available in the Income Tax Department’s official website,

http://law.incometaxindia.gov.in/Taxman ... aspx?md=31

with topic title Notification: 169; Date of Issue: 14/5/2007 in full detail.
I am including the relevant excerpt from the amendment, for your perusal and reference.
INCOME-TAX (FOURTH AMENDMENT) RULES, 2007
NOTIFICATION NO.169/2007, DATED 14-5-2007
In exercise of the powers conferred by section 295 of the Income Tax Act, 1961 (43 of 1961) (hereinafter referred to as the Act), the Central Board of Direct Taxes hereby makes the following rules further to amend the Income-tax Rules, 1962, namely:-
1. (1)These rules may be called the Income-tax (Fourth Amendment) Rules, 2007.
(2) They shall come into force on the 14th day of May, 2007.
2. In the Income-tax Rules, 1962,-
(a) for rule 12, the following rule shall be substituted, namely:-
Return of income and return of fringe benefits
12.(1) The return of income required to be furnished under sub-section (1) or sub-section (3) or sub-section (4A) or sub-section (4B) or sub-section (4C) or sub-section (4D) of section 139 or clause (i) of sub-section (1) of section 142 or sub-section (1) of section 148 or section 153A or the return of fringe benefits required to be furnished under sub-section (1) or sub-section (2) of section 115WD relating to the assessment year commencing on the 1st day of April, 2007 or any subsequent assessment year shall, -
(a) in the case of a person being an individual where the total income includes income chargeable to income-tax under the head salaries or income in the nature of family pension as defined in the Explanation to clause (iia) of section 57 but does not include any other income except income by way of interest chargeable to income-tax under the head income from other sources, be in Form No. ITR-1 and be verified in the manner indicated therein;

In accordance with the above amendment, All the Salaried Individuals (who doesn’t have income other than salary) now will MANDATORILY have to use form ITR1 to file their Income Tax returns and since I am a salaried employee I had to use form ITR1 for filing my Income Tax returns. After submission we are given an acknowledgement receipt with all standard earning details duly sealed by the Tax Official, which is the Income Tax return document.

I wish to bring to your kind notice that any salaried employee, who is filing his Income Tax returns in India after 14th May 2007 will be using only ITR1 because it is the appropriate form under the Tax Department’s directive and No one can get IT returns on SARAL form because it has become NON-EXISTANT. Its usage now could be Illegal.



Moreover the Original ITR1 document which I have supplied as the 2nd piece of evidence should be acceptable because it is in proper compliance to the definition of a “Tax Returnâ€

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Post by aman » Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:54 pm

Hello,
Thank You all on this forum for the support provided.
i have received my HSMP. I will be glad to help folks out here, with all i can.
timelines:
docs sent 27th June
reference number (e-mail): 10th July
Decision made 21st July

cdraina,
You just need to send the HSMP letter and the review. no need to send the documents again for review. i was also worried after the ITR stuff, but i guess submitting multiple evidences gets things corraborated. Good Luck.
for earnings i had submitted:
-ITR ack
-Form16
-Bank Statement and a letter stating my salary from X company was being put in Y Bank
-Wage Slips

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Post by fly2uk » Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:14 pm

Congrats Aman !!

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