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docteurbenway Member of Standing
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like the UKBA is not focusing on silly matters like fighting drugs and weapon smuggling,but rather concentrating on combating the real enemy, evil "benefit tourists" from the EU their family members and other "immigrants".
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On a lighter note here is a suggestion by one famous British TV personality on how to make things easier in Heathrow, apparently all you need is racism
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Directive/2004/38/EC Guru
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| docteurbenway wrote: | 1.Is there a chance that the UK would listen to the EC and fix the mess by 26 of June?
2.If not and they do put up a fight till the bitter end, how long are you predicting that is going to take? |
Nobody here is qualified to say. It is largely a political decision for the UK as to how to proceed. _________________ Directive 2004/38/EC lays out free movement rules for EU citizens and their non-EU family members
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EUsmileWEallsmile Moderator
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:48 am Post subject: |
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| docteurbenway wrote: | Looks like the UKBA is not focusing on silly matters like fighting drugs and weapon smuggling,but rather concentrating on combating the real enemy, evil "benefit tourists" from the EU their family members and other "immigrants".
More here
On a lighter note here is a suggestion by one famous British TV personality on how to make things easier in Heathrow, apparently all you need is racism
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I liked it when you quoted the full URL (I could decide to read the source of not). Pros and cons - eh. |
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mEEA Member
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:45 am Post subject: |
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| EUsmileWEallsmile wrote: | | ... I liked it when you quoted the full URL (I could decide to read the source of not). Pros and cons - eh... |
if you mouse-over the link in url form you see the full link in most of the browsers on left-down edge of the screen. |
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EUsmileWEallsmile Moderator
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:48 am Post subject: |
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So it does. I did prefer the old way though. Instead of typing here, one could have a more descriptive title.
(I'm too old for this computer stuff!). |
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Directive/2004/38/EC Guru
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:30 am Post subject: |
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If you just say here or here or here then it is better to just provide the full URL
If you have a nice descriptive text, then it fine to use that as the text and have the URL hidden _________________ Directive 2004/38/EC lays out free movement rules for EU citizens and their non-EU family members
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docteurbenway Member of Standing
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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My wife and i, just came back from Belfast. We originally flew from Germany to Dublin, which was easy enough, i had the Directive and all sorts of printouts with me. In Dublin the IO looked at my card, i saw he was a bit reluctant, so i said: "my wife is traveling with me, would you like our marriage certificate as well?" he was relieved and said yes. He did stamp my passport, but i let it slide.
We spent a few good days in Dublin, then rented a car and drove to Belfast, no controls at all, had a great day in the UK, visited the Titanic exhibition and drove back to Dublin.
Flew from Dublin to to Germany, there was no immigration on the way back from Dublin to Germany so no one stamped my passport out. In Germany passed a German IO and went home.
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| docteurbenway wrote: | | My wife and i, just came back from Belfast. We originally flew from Germany to Dublin, which was easy enough, i had the Directive and all sorts of printouts with me. In Dublin the IO looked at my card, i saw he was a bit reluctant, so i said: "my wife is traveling with me, would you like our marriage certificate as well?" he was relieved and said yes. He did stamp my passport, but i let it slide. |
Do you have a German issued Residence Card?
I did this with my wife in Ireland. It was the one time we used MRAX. http://eumovement.wordpress.com/2010/08/04/no-visa-but-still-want-to-travel/ _________________ Directive 2004/38/EC lays out free movement rules for EU citizens and their non-EU family members
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docteurbenway Member of Standing
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docteurbenway Member of Standing
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Directive/2004/38/EC wrote: |
Do you have a German issued Residence Card?
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Yes i have a German issued card of a Family Member. We did also take a bunch of print outs about the Directive and even UK EEA immigration Regulations 2006(for Belfast), but we never used them, no need. |
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So even though you had a RC, there was still a little problem at Dublin airport? You had to show your marriage certificate? _________________ Directive 2004/38/EC lays out free movement rules for EU citizens and their non-EU family members
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docteurbenway Member of Standing
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Directive/2004/38/EC wrote: | | So even though you had a RC, there was still a little problem at Dublin airport? You had to show your marriage certificate? |
Well i would not call it a problem, the whole thing lasted 5 minutes at most. We exited the plane and went to the "all passports" stand.
I went first and my wife was standing by my side, i handed the IO my German Family Member card and my passport.
He looked at the card for 10 seconds or so and said "so you are married to someone in the EU?" i said "here is my wife traveling with me", at this point she gave him her EU passport so he had both now and was relaxed even smiled at us.
I said "you want the marriage certificate as well?", he said "yes cuz it doesn't say..."
He did not finish the sentence, but i gathered he wanted to say "doesn't say the name of the spouse on the card"
He smiled again and said "are you on holiday?" we said yes, he asked "how long are you planning on staying?" we said 5 days and then he stamped my passport with a green stamp that said "Temporary visitors permit, valid for 90 days, without recourse to public funds"
On the way out from Dublin to Germany there was no IOs at all so we directly boarded the plane. So i never got a stamp out to confirm that we exited within the "90 days" which i found makes the whole point of stamping in the first place useless.
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EUsmileWEallsmile Moderator
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Normally I would not equate good and article with daily mail. The article is generally interesting. One point though is that the soundbite (the little tiny extract from the original report) is cherry picked for effect. |
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docteurbenway Member of Standing
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| Strictly speaking Switzerland is also not behaving, changed once they joined Schengen and now don't accept non-Shengen cards, (though they don't have to comply with the directive). Good effort though! |
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