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salonbalm Member
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 8:49 pm Post subject: ILR - delayed entry to UK |
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I am 2 months and 8 days short of ILR as I didnt come to the UK straightaway. Was wondering if someone else had the same issue and was able to sucessfully apply for an ILR? I know that the guidelines are very clear but was hoping not to spend the fees.
And on that note, would I be paying the full fees or the reduced one for HSMP applicants?
Thanks in advance.
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cs95tdg Guru
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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salonbalm, to ensure you get the correct answers can you give specific dates that apply to your case here for further clarity. I.e. when was your first visa granted, i.e. what was the valid from date - valid to date?, when did you first arrive in the UK (date)?, I take it you are now on a Tier 1 General visa, but what are the corresponding valid from & valid to dates?
There are some consessions given to those who enter the country anywhere up to 3 months after the original entry clearance grant date, but without knowing the specifics above it's difficult to say whether this would apply to you or not.
You can take a look at the UKBA case worker guidance below for further information...
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/policyandlaw/IDIs/idichapter6a/section1.pdf?view=Binary
The following may apply to you...
2.2 Applications that fall short of the five year continuous period
In some cases, applicants may have been granted 5 years continuous leave, but will not have spent 5 years continuously in the UK before their current leave expires. Caseworkers may count the period between entry clearance being granted and the date the applicant entered the UK towards the 5 years, provided this period was not longer than 3 months. |
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salonbalm Member
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Dear cs95tdg,
My initial HSMP approval was from 31/10/2007 to 31/10/2009. I came to UK on 9 Jan 2008. Then I got an extension under Tier1 till 31/10/2012. |
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longshift Senior Member
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| salonbalm wrote: | Dear cs95tdg,
My initial HSMP approval was from 31/10/2007 to 31/10/2009. I came to UK on 9 Jan 2008. Then I got an extension under Tier1 till 31/10/2012. |
mate, you are fine for ILR. You do not need another extension. As cs95tdg suggested, you will get grace for the time you came late in this country as its less than 3 months. |
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salonbalm Member
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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thanks mate.
so do I apply for ILR in october first week (within 28 days) as my leave expires on 31 oct? |
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salonbalm Member
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks dude |
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salonbalm Member
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Guys,
If I apply in the last week of october and for some reason my application gets rejected (the case worker might not give me the 3 month advantage), would I be ablle to apply for a
fresh FLR application (considering that I might be already over my visa expiry date) or would it be game over and time for me to go back to india? |
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salonbalm Member
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Dear all,
Could someone please advise me on the above?
Thanks in advance |
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silent_warrior Senior Member
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| salonbalm wrote: | Guys,
If I apply in the last week of october and for some reason my application gets rejected (the case worker might not give me the 3 month advantage), would I be ablle to apply for a
fresh FLR application (considering that I might be already over my visa expiry date) or would it be game over and time for me to go back to india? |
Hello salonbalm
I would best advise you to read this Chapter 6A - Settlement, Annex B ,2
and send an email to SettlementOpsPolicy@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk with your queries. |
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salonbalm Member
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Dear silent_warrior,
should I refer to Annex B,2 in my email to homeoffice?
Thanks in advance |
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salonbalm Member
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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All,
Could you please someone advise on the above?
Thanks in advance. |
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sushdmehta Moderator
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| salonbalm wrote: | Guys,
If I apply in the last week of october and for some reason my application gets rejected (the case worker might not give me the 3 month advantage), would I be ablle to apply for a
fresh FLR application (considering that I might be already over my visa expiry date) or would it be game over and time for me to go back to india? | Apply for settlement before 31-Oct. Refer to the instructions in the IDI and request that the application be considered in line with the instruction. If refused, appeal and you'll win the appeal.
You are not the only one. There are many who had the same issue ... and have successfully received ILR - taking advantage of this instruction. The instruction has been included for a reason (to prevent applicant's pay extra money to get an extension for few days to be able to apply for ILR .. something you are contemplating doing). _________________ Life isn't fair, but you can be! |
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silent_warrior Senior Member
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| salonbalm wrote: | Dear silent_warrior,
should I refer to Annex B,2 in my email to homeoffice?
Thanks in advance |
Apologies salonbalm, for not getting back before.Yes you can (if you want peace of mind)
However sushdmehta has already advised on what you can do. Keep us posted of your progress |
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salonbalm Member
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Guys,
I have emailed the above email address confirming the same.
Will keep you all posted.
Thanks a lot |
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salonbalm Member
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Guys this is what I have got back from home office:
I cannot provide advice on individual applications, but as you are aware, one of the requirements for settlement is that the applicant must have spent a continuous period of 5 years lawfully in the UK. The Secretary of State can apply discretion to disregard short absence during the 5 year period, to enable migrants to travel outside of the UK for the purpose of paid annual leave, or business. This discretion is also applied in cases where the migrant may have delayed their initial entry to the UK, provided this was for a period no longer than 3 months.
If applying for settlement at a PEO, the assessment of this requirement will be made on the day of the appointment, therefore, an applicant must ensure that they can meet the requirement on that day, taking into account any disregarded absences. The PEO appointment can be no earlier than the actual date that the applicant completes the 5 year period, regardless of the fact that they must make an application to extend their leave within 28 days of the expiry of their current leave.
In cases where the applicant has delayed their entry to the UK by less than 3 months (the delay can therefore be disregarded), and their PEO appointment is earlier than 5 years after their Entry Clearance date, they will not be allowed to submit their application, as they will be deemed not to have yet completed the 5 year period, and will be advised to submit a postal application.
A postal application for settlement can be submitted 28 days before the expiry of current leave, as the assessment of whether the applicant has met the 5 year requirement will take into account the period of time between the application being posted, and the date of decision.
I trust this answers your question, but if you have any further enquiries regarding your application, please contact the Immigration Enquiry Bureau 0870 606 7766.
UK Border Agency – Settlement Ops Policy team
way too confusing for me. |
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sushdmehta Moderator
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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It seems people are flooding the given email ID with such requests, thereby prompting a response in the form of generic auto-reply. _________________ Life isn't fair, but you can be! |
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salonbalm Member
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Guys,
Could someone please advise on the above?
Regards,
Vivek |
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sushdmehta Moderator
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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I have already done so .... in one of my previous response in the topic.
Reading this topic should offer some reassurance. _________________ Life isn't fair, but you can be! |
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salonbalm Member
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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Guys,
Another confusion. Does the 180 day rule consists of time away from uk and the initial delay of 2 months and 8 days put together? if yes, then I am around 191 days out and if not than I am way below 180.
Could you please advise?
Thanks in advance |
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cs95tdg Guru
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| salonbalm wrote: | Guys,
Another confusion. Does the 180 day rule consists of time away from uk and the initial delay of 2 months and 8 days put together? if yes, then I am around 191 days out and if not than I am way below 180.
Could you please advise?
Thanks in advance |
The 180 day rule you refer to does not include the initial delay in entry to the UK, but rather just the time spent outside of the UK since your first entry which I understand is "9 Jan 2008" from your original post. _________________ Info/Advice I provide is general in nature and shouldn't be used as a substitute for professional advice where necessary.
Please post your questions in the open forums available here instead of via PM to me, so others can also benefit from the answers. |
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