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kuman32 Junior Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:27 pm Post subject: Tier2 (ICT) to ILR & Extension query |
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Hi,
I am in the UK and have been on the following visas (no change in employer)
1> Tier 2 – ICT Established Staff (20-Apr-2010 to May-2012) – this was applied for extension as below
2> Tier 2 – Long term Staff ( Apr2012 to May2013) - current
I have 3 questions
1) For how many year I should be able to get the extension on my visa as per latest UKBA rules, would I be eligible for my next extension in 2013?
2) If I am eligible for 2 more extensions then, am I eligible to apply ILR in Apr-2015 ?
3) Am I eligible to switch to Tier2(General) visa ?
Not been out of UK for more then a month in any year anytime. Any help on this would be very much appreciated.
Thanks
Kumar |
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genorp Member of Standing
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:56 am Post subject: |
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1) From 6 April 2011 Tier 2 LTS will be limited to a maximum period of 5 years with no extension permitted after this date.
2) Since 6 April 2010 new Tier 2 (ICTs) have not been able to qualify for settlement but are able to extend for as long as their Sponsor has needed them in the UK but as mentioned above in #1 a 5-year limit was added in 2011.
3) Tier 2 (Intra-Company Transfer) Long Term Staff granted leave, under the rules in place after 6 April 2011 cannot switch into Tier 2 (General). Switching from a Tier 2 (ICT) to Tier 2 (General) while in the UK is not permitted. The migrant must leave and obtain a fresh visa from his home country If you are able to switch then a Tier 2 (General) can amalgamate time spent in the UK as a Tier 2 (ICT) and Tier 2 (General) towards the required 5 year period only if he entered as a Tier 2 (ICT) before 6 April 2010, which means none of your time would qualify towards the 5 years.
You were able to switch into LTS from Established Staff because you entered before 6 April 2011. |
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kuman32 Junior Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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First of all thanks a lot for the reply really helpful..
I still have a doubt on Tier2(ICT) to Tier2(general) switching.. I believe I am eligible though I could be wrong completely.. on uk boarder site http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/policyandlaw/immigrationlaw/immigrationrules/part6a/ under section "245HD. Requirements for leave to remain" it has been mentioned..
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(c) An applicant who has, or was last granted leave as a Tier 2 (Intra-Company Transfer) Migrant must:
(i) have previously had leave as a Tier 2 (Intra-Company Transfer) Migrant under the Rules in place before 6 April 2010, or in the Established Staff sub-category under the Rules in place before 6 April 2011,
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Does this not make me qualify to switch to Tier2 (general)?
thanks
Kumar |
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manci Guru
Joined: 15 Feb 2012 Posts: 1452
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Tier2 (ICT) to ILR & Extension query |
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| kuman32 wrote: | Hi,
I am in the UK and have been on the following visas (no change in employer)
1> Tier 2 – ICT Established Staff (20-Apr-2010 to May-2012) – this was applied for extension as below
2> Tier 2 – Long term Staff ( Apr2012 to May2013) - current
I have 3 questions
1) For how many year I should be able to get the extension on my visa as per latest UKBA rules, would I be eligible for my next extension in 2013? The max. length of leave for T2 Long Term Staff is 5 years, or the work end date given by the employer in the CoS, whichever earlier.
2) If I am eligible for 2 more extensions then, am I eligible to apply ILR in Apr-2015? No, because your first leave was under the rules after 6 April 2010.
3) Am I eligible to switch to Tier2(General) visa? Yes
Not been out of UK for more then a month in any year anytime. Any help on this would be very much appreciated.
Thanks
Kumar |
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kuman32 Junior Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Tier2 (ICT) to ILR & Extension query |
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thanks a lot [b]manci [/b]for your reply, this is helpful.
I was expecting the same answer, but [b]genorp [/b]answer's make me worried as he mentioned I can't switch.
One more doubt if you could help,
If I switch to Tier2(General) then would I be eligible for ILR in 2015 (as I will complete 5yrs in UK) or would that be reset & 5yrs time will start from the time I will switch to Tier2 (General) ?
Thanks
Kumar |
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manci Guru
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: Tier2 (ICT) to ILR & Extension query |
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| kuman32 wrote: | thanks a lot manci for your reply, this is helpful.
I was expecting the same answer, but genorp answer's make me worried as he mentioned I can't switch. You can switch as per Immigration Rule 245HD (c)(i), which you quoted. This is also in the T2 policy guidance, paragraph 16 (tha table)
One more doubt if you could help,
If I switch to Tier2(General) then would I be eligible for ILR in 2015 (as I will complete 5yrs in UK) or would that be reset & 5yrs time will start from the time I will switch to Tier2 (General)? The 5 year clock will start from the time you switch to T2G. See Immigration Rule 245HF(c)(x)Thanks
Kumar |
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kuman32 Junior Member
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: Tier2 (ICT) to ILR & Extension query |
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| thanks a lot manci for all your prompt answers, really appreciate.. |
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genorp Member of Standing
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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I can't say anything definitive and you should seek professional guidance, but the Tier-2 guidance
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/applicationforms/pbs/tier2-guidance.pdf
says in footnote 1 under Switching on page 4 (number 16 - the footnote is under the table on the top of page 5), with regards to switching inside the UK to Tier-2 General:
| Quote: | Please note that Tier 2 (Intra-Company Transfer) Long Term Staff granted leave, under the rules in place after 6 April 2011 cannot switch into Tier 2
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And your ICT LTS was a year after that date. |
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manci Guru
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:56 am Post subject: |
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| genorp wrote: | the Tier-2 guidance
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/applicationforms/pbs/tier2-guidance.pdfsays in footnote 1 under Switching on page 4 (number 16 - the footnote is under the table on the top of page 5), with regards to switching inside the UK to Tier-2 General:
Please note that Tier 2 (Intra-Company Transfer) Long Term Staff granted leave, under the rules in place after 6 April 2011 cannot switch into Tier 2 (General). |
The wording of this footnote under the table at para 16 of the T2 policy guidance has been unfortunate. It should have said: ...Long Term Staff first granted leave.... However, the Immigration Rules are the law and override the guidance. I suppose one could say that Kumar's leave was not "granted" but "extended" under the rules in place after 6 April 2011 |
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kuman32 Junior Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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manci, genorp
Thanks for your replies, but I am confused & worried now.. please help & let me know shall I go for switching if I am allowed ?
thanks
Kumar |
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Praman Newbie
Joined: 15 Sep 2012 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:03 am Post subject: Request for Advise |
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Hi Manci/All,
Hope you are well.
I am new to this forum and as such please excuse my Ignorance.
I was hoping if you could please advise/guide me on getting a Tier 2 General and hopefully, transferring to ILR.
I am currently employed in the UK under a Tier 2 ICT, which was issued on 27 March 2011 expiring on 27 th April 2014.
As such, could you please advise on how do i go about this?
Looking forward to hearing from you on this and thank in advance.
Regards,
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manci Guru
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| If you are in the Tier 2 ICT Established Staff category you are eligible to switch to Tier 2 General. The only way to do this is to find another employer who is prepared to sponsor you under Tier 2 General. |
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kuman32 Junior Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: Tier2 (ICT) to ILR & Extension query |
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Hello there, I was checking the rules recently on http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/policyandlaw/immigrationlaw/immigrationrules/part6a/
& have got the doubt again on my TIER2 (ICT) to ILR
In requirement it says..
(b) if the applicant is applying for leave to remain as a Tier 2 (Intra-Company Transfer) Migrant in the Long Term Staff sub-category:
(i) the applicant must have, or have last been granted, entry clearance, leave to enter or leave to remain as either:
(1) a Tier 2 (Intra-Company Transfer) Migrant in the Long Term Staff sub-category, or
(2) a Tier 2 (Intra-Company Transfer) Migrant in the established Staff sub-category under the Rules in place before 6 April 2011, or
(3) a Tier 2 (Intra-Company Transfer) Migrant granted under the Rules in place before 6 April 2010, or
(4) a Qualifying Work Permit Holder, provided that the work permit was granted because the applicant was the subject of an Intra-Company Transfer, or
(5) as a representative of an overseas Business, and
In this way if either of the rule applies, I fall under category b.(i).(1) or b.(i).(2)
Please clarify..
Thanks
Kumar
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[quote="manci"][quote="kuman32"]Hi,
I am in the UK and have been on the following visas (no change in employer)
1> Tier 2 – ICT Established Staff (20-Apr-2010 to May-2012) – this was applied for extension as below
2> Tier 2 – Long term Staff ( Apr2012 to May2013) - current
I have 3 questions
1) For how many year I should be able to get the extension on my visa as per latest UKBA rules, would I be eligible for my next extension in 2013? [color=red][b]The max. length of leave for T2 Long Term Staff is 5 years, or the work end date given by the employer in the CoS, whichever earlier[/b][/color].
2) If I am eligible for 2 more extensions then, am I eligible to apply ILR in Apr-2015? [color=red][b] No, because your first leave was under the rules after 6 April 2010[/b][/color].
3) Am I eligible to switch to Tier2(General) visa?[color=red][b] Yes[/b][/color]
Not been out of UK for more then a month in any year anytime. Any help on this would be very much appreciated.
Thanks
Kumar[/quote][/quote] |
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manci Guru
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:58 am Post subject: Re: Tier2 (ICT) to ILR & Extension query |
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| kuman32 wrote: |
[1> Tier 2 – ICT Established Staff (20-Apr-2010 to May-2012) – this was applied for extension as below
2> Tier 2 – Long term Staff ( Apr2012 to May2013) - current
I have 3 questions
1) For how many year I should be able to get the extension on my visa as per latest UKBA rules, would I be eligible for my next extension in 2013?
see the T2 policy guidance, para 185, page 39, third box from top. The extension will be 2 years or the work end date in the CoS if that is earlier. Under present rules there is no limit in your category on the number of times you can extend, the 5 year overall limit only applies to T2 ICT migrants whose initial leave was granted after 6 April 2011.
2) If I am eligible for 2 more extensions then, am I eligible to apply ILR in Apr-2015?
No, because your initial leave was granted under the rules after 6 April 2010.
3) Am I eligible to switch to Tier2(General) visa?
Yes, if you change sponsor
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kuman32 Junior Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:10 am Post subject: Re: Tier2 (ICT) to ILR & Extension query |
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thanks manci for your answer again.. one last question please..
I have come to UK very first time in July 2007 (with same employer) on WORKPERMIT & stayed here continuously until Jun 2009. After that return back to India due to some urgency (no visa extn as well), but return back again after 10months on Tier 2 – ICT Established Staff (20-Apr-2010 to May-2012) & further extn Tier 2 – Long term Staff ( Apr2012 to May2013) - current.
Would that make be eligible for ILR somehow?
thanks
Kumar |
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manci Guru
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:45 am Post subject: |
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1. when did your 2007 work permit visa expire?
2. for what purpose did you return to India in June 2009? |
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kuman32 Junior Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for coming back.
> My 2007 workpermit was expired in 15-Jun-2009 (around 23 months I was in UK)
> There were some issue with the company, I couldn't get the extension, plus some family issue as well which made me to go back. But that again came back to UK in Apr-2010 & here since then. |
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manci Guru
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rajeevsharma11 Newbie
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I am here on tier 2 ICT logn term staff migrant visa July 2011. It is going to expire in August. Will it be possible to switch over to Tier 2 general with in Uk. |
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manci Guru
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| rajeevsharma11 wrote: | | I am here on tier 2 ICT logn term staff migrant visa July 2011. It is going to expire in August. Will it be possible to switch over to Tier 2 general with in Uk. |
what is the date and immigration category of your first application for entry clearance? |
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