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Richard66
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I think the UK and ireland ought to be expelled from the EU and that UK citizens should be made to apply for visas in order to come to the Continent and that the procedure should be the same the UK and Ireland forces foreigners to follow in order to obtain a visa.
Maybe this way they will see sense. 
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The Polish Embassy's website is now stating
If you are a spouse of the EU national (but not of the Polish citizen), please, note that, on the basis of Directive 2004/38/EC you do not need an entry visa to enter Poland if all of these three conditions are fulfilled:
1. You are married to an EU-citizen but not to a Polish citizen,
2. You are a holder of
-the British "Residence Card of a Family Member of an EEA National",
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-the British "Limited leave to remain in the United Kingdom",
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-the British "Indefinite leave to remain in the United Kingdom",
3. You are accompanied by your spouse (EU-national) when travelling to Poland.
This is the first time I've seen a visa issued by the UK being counted as the same as residence card. Does a non-EU spouse of a British Citizen with ILR really no longer need a Schengen visa to vist Poland? |
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This is logical, because a UK citizen that goes to Poland is exercising treaty rights (yes, travel for less than 3 months is exercising treaty rights too), the same as a German, whether he live in Germany or the UK.
As the spouse of a UK citizen is not issued with a residence card, but with an ILR or whatever, it is logical that this document should allow this spouse to enter Poland.
The right of free movement for Community citizens and their family members is not derived form a document, but from the very fact they are family members. Residence cards or visas only confirm this right, but never give rise to it.
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| clairey wrote: | http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=9185&start=40
my post at the bottom - Portuguese border official told my husband he didn't need a visa |
Can the holder of a valid resident card, travel independently within the union member states, with out a visa isued by that particular state s/he is traveling to? This is one issue that has not yet come clear. Any light with quotations any where please? |
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charles4u
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| DFDS. wrote: | | clairey wrote: | http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=9185&start=40
my post at the bottom - Portuguese border official told my husband he didn't need a visa |
Can the holder of a valid resident card, travel independently within the union member states, with out a visa isued by that particular state s/he is traveling to? This is one issue that has not yet come clear. Any light with quotations any where please? |
Only Schengen residence card is valid to travel independently within the Schengen states for max of 3 months which are also the EU states.
The EU residence is not valid for independently travel without visa within the EU state, Only family members can accompany or join there EU spouse with in need of visa.
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| charles4u wrote: | Only Schengen residence card is valid to travel independently within the Schengen states for max of 3 months which are also the EU states.
The EU residence is not valid for independently travel without visa within the EU state, Only family members can accompany or join there EU spouse with in need of visa. |
Do you have sources to support either of these two statements?
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Directive 2004/38/EC lays out free movement rules for EU citizens and their non-EU family members
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| Directive/2004/38/EC wrote: | | charles4u wrote: | Only Schengen residence card is valid to travel independently within the Schengen states for max of 3 months which are also the EU states.
The EU residence is not valid for independently travel without visa within the EU state, Only family members can accompany or join there EU spouse with in need of visa. |
Do you have sources to support either of these two statements? |
1 . http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/fsj/freetravel/fsj_freetravel_intro_en.htm
2. Free movement following the abolition of internal border controls (Schengen cooperation)
The right to free movement was given a boost in 1985 when Germany, France and the Benelux countries ( Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg) signed an intergovernmental agreement on gradually abolishing internal border checks, in the small Luxembourg border town of Schengen. The Schengen Agreement was followed in 1990 by the Schengen Convention, which finally came into force in 1995.
The Schengen Convention abolished controls at the internal borders between the signatories, harmonised controls at the external frontiers of the “Schengen area” and introduced a common policy on short-stay visas for third-country nationals and other accompanying measures like police and judicial cooperation. The Schengen signatories agreed that each country could reintroduce controls at their shared borders only temporarily and in specific, clearly defined circumstances.
The Schengen provisions were not intended to regulate the right to long-term residence and work, neither for EU citizens nor for third-country nationals.
A protocol attached to the Treaty of Amsterdam incorporated the developments made in the intergovernmental framework (“Schengen acquis” [6.8 MB]) into the legal and institutional framework of the EU. The Schengen acquis now forms part of the EU legislation and is divided between the first and third pillar instruments, with border and visa policy falling under the “first pillar” and, hence, under the scrutiny of the European Commission and (with some specific conditions) of the Court of Justice of the European Communities and also involving the European Parliament.
The harmonised entry conditions for third-country nationals and rules and operational instructions for carrying out checks at the EU’s external borders are defined in the Schengen Borders Code that replaced earlier provisions of the Schengen Convention and the common manual on external borders. The key documents regulating the issuing of Schengen visas are the Common Consular Instructions.
The Schengen cooperation has made travel easier not only for EU citizens, but also for non-EU nationals. Since the Schengen area was established, all travellers who enter the area lawfully can travel freely within it without being submitted to border checks (for up to three months within a six-month period). Non-EU travellers who would normally need 22 visas to visit all the Schengen Member States can now do this with a single visa . A residence permit issued by a Schengen State replaces the short-term visa normally required for nationals of countries subject to a visa requirement (see the section on borders for details).
3. Which countries are now in the Schengen area?
Since December 2007, 22 EU Member States are in the Schengen area without internal border control. These are Belgium, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Germany, Greece, Spain, France, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Austria, Poland, Portugal, Finland, Slovakia, Slovenia and Sweden. In addition, two associated countries currently form part of the Schengen area: Norway and Iceland.
As mentioned earlier, Denmark is in the Schengen area without internal border control. For certain provisions, however, it can choose whether or not to apply a new decision taken to build upon the Schengen acquis (see Protocol on the position of Denmark attached to the Treaty of Amsterdam for details). Ireland and the United Kingdom carry out checks and surveillance at their borders with other EU Member States, but both these Member States have requested to participate in parts of the Schengen acquis, mainly relating to security (cooperation between police forces and the judiciary). An exhaustive list for the United Kingdom can be found in Council Decision 2000/365/EC of 29 May 2000 (with the dates of entry into force specified in Council Decision 2004/926/EC of 22 December 2004); a similar list for Ireland is available in Council Decision 2002/192/EC of 28 February 2002.
Two non-EU Member States, Norway and Iceland, fully apply the Schengen provisions on the basis of a specific agreement. Bulgaria, Cyprus and Romania only partially apply the Schengen acquis at the moment and checks are therefore still carried out at the borders with these three Member States. The Schengen acquis applicable to these three countries is listed in their EU accession treaties.
The EU also concluded an agreement with Switzerland [202 KB] on its participation in the Schengen area. If all the preconditions are fulfilled and the evaluations are positive, border control with Switzerland could be lifted before the end of 2008. Switzerland will have the same associate status as Norway and Iceland. An agreement on Liechtenstein’s participation in the Schengen area was signed on 28 February 2008.
The precondition for association with the Schengen acquis by non-EU countries is an agreement on free movement of persons between those States and the EU (this is provided for by the Agreement on the European Economic Area in the cases of Iceland, Norway and Liechtenstein and by the Agreement on the free movement of persons in the case of Switzerland).
Member States that are not in the Schengen area ( Ireland, the UK, Bulgaria, Romania and Cyprus) maintain border checks and may require non-EU nationals to have a separate entry visa issued by the non-Schengen country to which they are travelling. Under Directive 2004/38/EC, third-country members of the family of an EU citizen are exempted from the visa requirement when they accompany or join the EU citizen in a Member State other than that of the EU citizen’s nationality, on condition that they have a residence card of a family member of a Union citizen (e.g. a Russian spouse of a German national residing in Belgium and holding a Belgian residence card does not need a visa to enter Bulgaria when they travel there together on holiday).
4. How does the EU maintain its internal security?
The Schengen acquis includes a series of detailed measures designed to compensate for the abolition of internal border controls by tightening security at the Union’s external frontiers. One key requirement is that Member States with an external EU frontier must ensure that proper checks and effective surveillance are carried out at the EU’s external frontiers. Once a person is inside the Schengen area, he or she is free to move around wherever he or she wants for a short period. It is therefore vital that controls at the EU’s external frontiers are efficient enough to stop illegal immigration, drug smuggling and other unlawful activities.
The Schengen provisions also cover closer cooperation and coordination between Member States authorities, including border guards, customs officers, visa authorities and judicial and law-enforcement authorities. One key instrument to secure this cooperation is the Schengen Information System (SIS), a complex database that enables these authorities to exchange data throughout the Schengen area on certain categories of persons and on lost or stolen goods. For example, a police officer in any Schengen State can check whether a person is wanted by law enforcement authorities of another Schengen country or whether a vehicle stopped on the roads has been stolen in any of the Schengen States.
2 . http://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-us/coming_to_dk/visa/schengen/residence_permit_schengen.htm
3 . http://ec.europa.eu/youreurope/nav/en/citizens/travelling/schengen-area/index.html
MAIN IMPLICATIONS FOR NON EU CITIZENS
As a citizen of a third country you may enter and travel within the territory of the countries applying in full the Schengen provisions for a period of up to three months, provided you fulfill the following entry conditions:
the possession of a valid travel document,
the possession of a short stay visa if required;
being able to demonstrate the purpose of the journey;
the possession of sufficient means of subsistence for the period of stay and for the return
not being listed in the Schengen information system for the purpose of refusing entry and
not being considered to be a threat to public policy or national security for all Schengen countries.
If you want to stay longer than three months you still need a national long term visa or residence permit. It is up to the individual countries to set their own requirements.
In 2001 the Council of the European Union adopted a regulation listing the third countries whose nationals must be in possession of short stay visas when crossing the external borders of Member States and those whose nationals are exempt from that requirement.
This means that all Schengen countries issue visas under the same conditions, taking account of each other’s interests. A Schengen visa issued by one Schengen country is therefore also valid for the others, which benefits third country nationals wishing to visit more than one Schengen country. In exceptional cases, visitors who do not meet the common entry conditions are issued with a visa valid only for the Schengen country that has issued it. Such cases arise for humanitarian reasons or reasons relating to national interest or compliance with international obligations.
Non-EU nationals legally residing in the territory of an EU country have the right to travel (up to three months) within the European Union.
On the basis of the Schengen acquis, a valid residence permit from a Schengen country, together with a travel document, can substitute for a visa. Thus, a third-country national presenting his/her passport and a valid residence permit issued by a Schengen country is allowed to enter another Schengen country for a short stay without needing a visa. This equivalence does not apply to residence permits issued by the United Kingdom and Ireland, since they do not apply the Schengen acquis.
4 . Schengen and Residency Issues
New rules for travelers with long-stay visas
Following discussion on rules for traveling within the Schengen area for holders of national long-stay visas (visas for stays exceeding 90 days), the European Commission has presented a new interpretation of Schengen rules which brings a number of changes for third-country nationals staying in the Czech Republic with long-term visas (these rules also apply to long-stay visas issued by other Schengen states).
Key points of this new interpretation are as follows:
Long stays spent in one Schengen state on the basis of its national long-stay visa (visa type D or D+C) do not count when calculating number of days spent in the Schengen territory. The main reason behind this interpretation is the fact that Community rules only cover short stays. In this context, previous or parallel long stays are irrelevant.
To this end, foreign nationals staying in the territory of one Schengen state on the basis of a long-stay visa who are:
not subject to the visa requirement, may for up to 3 months in any half year move freely within other Schengen states irrespective of the number of days spent in the territory of the Schengen state which issued the long-stay visa;
subject to the visa requirement, may according to this interpretation submit an application for a short-stay uniform Schengen visa (category C) to a diplomatic mission of a Schengen state which they intend to visit, located inside the Schengen territory; holders of a D+C visa may do so only in the second half year as they have the right to travel within Schengen automatically for the first 3 months of the validity of their D+C visa.
The new interpretation also states that holders of national long-stay visas may travel to the territories of other Schengen states not only during their long stay in one Schengen state, but also 3 months after the expiration of their long-stay visa or residence permit.
One problem in an “area without borders” remains proof of the time spent outside the territory of the state which issued the D/D+C visa. Every foreign national should seek information about reporting requirements in the state he/she intends to visit. Rules concerning this duty may differ from state to state. The Czech Republic obliges third-country nationals to report their presence in the Czech territory to the inspectorate of the Alien Police in charge of the territory of their intended stay within 3 working days from the day of entering the Czech Republic.
The new interpretation does not change traveling rules for holders of residence permits (issued by the Czech Republic or another Schengen state) during the residence permit’s validity.
Holders of long-term or permanent residence permits may spend up to 3 months in the territory of other Schengen states than the one which issued their residence permit. They do not need any visa; all they need is to be in possession of a valid travel document and a residence permit.
Holders of residence permits who are not subject to the visa requirement may now travel visa-free within Schengen up to 3 months after the expiration of the validity of their residence permit.
Attention! In the case of the Czech Republic, a difference exists between a long-stay visa (visa for stay over 90 days) and a long-term residence permit. Travel rules for the two categories differ significantly.
http://prague.usembassy.gov/new_rules_for_travelling_of_holders_of_long-stay_visas.html
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I think what charles means is that from other peoples experiences - If you have a EU residence card from say UK/Ireland you could not travel around Schengen states without a visa? The same way Ireland/UK supposedly would not let say a person with an Spanish resident card in without a valid visa???? Charles am I right?
I'm not sure this is correct though in theory as a family member of a EU citizen that is exercising EU treaty rights you should be allowed to travel freely without a visa if traveling with spouse?? Can you also travel visa-free without spouse???
I think this same question keeps getting asked on this forum!! Because most countries are not reinforcing the Directive it is up to all of us as EU citizens to make a complaint against the country that is with holding our rights! We can come on here and talk all we want but unless we all start complaining about the way we are being treated nothing will change!
I find especially here in Italy that people just agree with the authorities when they say no instead of standing up for their rights!! Unless we all speak out nothing will change!!
The IO have to be informed and trained better!! It is a joke that none of them know about any of these laws regarding spouses of EU citizens and free movement! It is not like this directive just came into force these countries have had years to implement the rules and have still failed to do so!
I understand that people abuse the system....and due to this they look at everyone with doubt but the treatment of EU citizens and there spouses is disgracefull!!!
So I think everytime someone abuses there power and does not follow the law!! WE SHOULD REPORT THEM! to the European commission! |
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| charles4u wrote: | | I dont think anyone allows travelling alone for EU family members, only Hungary allows visa-free travel to Hungary even when travelling alone according to what the told me at there embassy in Bucharest. You can even travel alone once you hold a residence card as family member. |
Denmark and Cyprus say so too on their UK embassy web pages. |
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I got this email from the Cypriot embassy a while ago:
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From: CY Embassy of Dublin <dublinembassy@mfa.gov.cy>
Date: Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 18:49
Subject: Visa Requirements for Cyprus
To: Christian
Dear Christian,
In regards to the e-mail that you sent to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
of the Republic of Cyprus in 25 January 2008 concerning the Cyprus visa
requirements for your Lebanese wife, which was forwarded to the Embassy a
few days later, the Embassy of the Republic of Cyprus in Ireland would like
to state the following:
Family members of an EU-national who are not nationals of an EU Member
State themselves are exempted from the visa requirement provided that they
reside in an EU Member State and hold a valid residence card or permit.
Therefore, your wife does not need a visa to visit Cyprus provided that she
has a valid residence card or permit in an EU Member State, in your case
Ireland.
Besides a valid passport, the Embassy advises non-EU spouses of EU
nationals who wish to travel to Cyprus to take with them their valid
residence card or permit of the EU Member State that they are residing and
the original or a copy of their marriage certificate in order to be able to
prove to the airport authorities the relation that they have to the EU
national.
For clarification purposes I would also like to state that non-EU spouses
of EU nationals can actually travel to Cyprus without a visa even when
travelling alone. In other words, your spouse does not have to accompany
you to Cyprus in order for the above mentioned criteria to apply. In such
cases, the Embassy advices non-EU spouses of EU nationals to take with them
their valid residence card or permit of the EU Member State that they are
residing, the original or a copy of their marriage certificate and a copy
of the main page of the passport of their EU-national spouse.
I hope the above clarifies the situation and I apologize for any
inconvenience caused.
Kind Regards,
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Embassy of the Republic of Cyprus in Ireland
71 Lower Leeson Street
Dublin 2
T:+353 1 676 3060
F:+353 1 676 3099
dublinembassy@mfa.gov.cy
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: Cyprus |
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| ca.funke wrote: | I got this email from the Cypriot embassy a while ago:
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From: CY Embassy of Dublin <dublinembassy@mfa.gov.cy>
Date: Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 18:49
Subject: Visa Requirements for Cyprus
To: Christian
Dear Christian,
In regards to the e-mail that you sent to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
of the Republic of Cyprus in 25 January 2008 concerning the Cyprus visa
requirements for your Lebanese wife, which was forwarded to the Embassy a
few days later, the Embassy of the Republic of Cyprus in Ireland would like
to state the following:
Family members of an EU-national who are not nationals of an EU Member
State themselves are exempted from the visa requirement provided that they
reside in an EU Member State and hold a valid residence card or permit.
Therefore, your wife does not need a visa to visit Cyprus provided that she
has a valid residence card or permit in an EU Member State, in your case
Ireland.
Besides a valid passport, the Embassy advises non-EU spouses of EU
nationals who wish to travel to Cyprus to take with them their valid
residence card or permit of the EU Member State that they are residing and
the original or a copy of their marriage certificate in order to be able to
prove to the airport authorities the relation that they have to the EU
national.
For clarification purposes I would also like to state that non-EU spouses
of EU nationals can actually travel to Cyprus without a visa even when
travelling alone. In other words, your spouse does not have to accompany
you to Cyprus in order for the above mentioned criteria to apply. In such
cases, the Embassy advices non-EU spouses of EU nationals to take with them
their valid residence card or permit of the EU Member State that they are
residing, the original or a copy of their marriage certificate and a copy
of the main page of the passport of their EU-national spouse.
I hope the above clarifies the situation and I apologize for any
inconvenience caused.
Kind Regards,
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Embassy of the Republic of Cyprus in Ireland
71 Lower Leeson Street
Dublin 2
T:+353 1 676 3060
F:+353 1 676 3099
dublinembassy@mfa.gov.cy
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May i commend the poster for such a wonderful revelation. No wonder, this has been one of our major topics of recent. For all those who have contributed towards the thread you can bare witness.We have had lots of scenarios concerning the issue of trvling with in the member states visa free, as family members of EEA persons exercising treaty rights.Many members have tried to post there trvl experiences as regards to this very issue & they have come up with different conclusions, of which some have been positive & others negative. Besides, some contributions have been mare assumptions & some of us have been requesting for their athuntication as they weren't at all a reflection of the directive.
My sincere regards to Directive 2004/38/ec, charles4u, 86ti, ca.funke,ciaramc,Richard66 & whoever I've not mentioned. Thanks for your time & wonderful contribution. Now we all know where we stand, though Cyprus is just one among the many member states that have to enforce the directive.
Lastly, there is a need to educate all careers, regional & international about the free movement directive, as most of them have no knowledge of it. The TIMs (travel information manuals) that careers & trvl agents use, have to be updated as well, to save Paxs( passengers) time at the ports. |
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Hello all, I have a question that i cant seem to get an answer to. Please help. sorry if i am not supposed to post this in this topic but i thought it might be relative in someways.
I am British living in France for 4 years now and i have never held a residence card nor been registered. We want to apply for my husbands Carte de Séjou. And now i am been told for him to apply for one i must be registered or hold a residence card - is this true?
If it is, why then when i try to register with the local Marie, they tell me i dont need to be registered as i have the right to be here. And the prefecture tell me i dont need a residence card they no longer issue them to British nationals.
I also read i was suppose to register within 3 months of arriving if i was planning to stay over 3 months. I didnt know that back then and have been here for 4 years now, i got married here, had kids here, worked here, paid tax, i am registered (well was) with the assidic, CAF i hold the card vitale dont all those factors make me a resident what more do they want??!!! and should this really be a problem for my husband now?
If i am free to move around the EU and seek employment what is all this business with getting a residence card?
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86ti
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| avs wrote: | | I am British living in France for 4 years now and i have never held a residence card nor been registered. We want to apply for my husbands Carte de Séjou. And now i am been told for him to apply for one i must be registered or hold a residence card - is this true? |
That would be a registration certificate or whatever the French equivalent is. Member states are free to require registration. But official French web pages state that you can get one on request... (But you probably read that yourself.) |
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| Yes, i have and i tried to obtain one, but was told that it only applies to non EU nationals, not me as i am British so i dont know how to get one if i need one. |
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| avs wrote: | | Yes, i have and i tried to obtain one, but was told that it only applies to non EU nationals, not me as i am British so i dont know how to get one if i need one. |
No. The registration certificate is for EEA nationals (and maybe Swiss). The residence card is for their non-EEA national family members. Neither is a permit either though it might be still in some heads. |
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I found this piece of information on http://mairie01.paris.fr
Registration requirement of European citizens in town hall
Article L 121-2 of the Code of Entry and Residence of Aliens provides that EU citizens who wish to settle in France, must register with City Hall their municipality of residence within 3 months of their arrival in France. Otherwise, they will be deemed to reside in France for less than 3 months. This requirement will apply to people who came in France after the entry into force of an order. Our schedules will be amended upon its release.
I am not sure when this came into force, but i am pretty sure i came in before this was put in place. Would this mean that i dont need to register at this point and my husband can still obtain a residence card? |
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