| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
rogerex
Junior Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Posts: 43
|
 Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:24 am Post subject: |
 |
|
You need a Visa for Slovakia  even if you have a resident Permit.. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
ca.funke
Sage
Joined: 10 Feb 2008
Posts: 616
Location: Zürich (INside(!) Schengen)
|
| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:57 am Post subject: |
|
|
| rogerex wrote: | | You need a Visa for Slovakia even if you have a resident Permit.. |
If you have a residence-permit from any Schengen-State you do not need a Visa for Slovakia, and this will not be contested as Schengen-Rules work well even in practice.
If you have a residence-premit from the UK, Ireland, Bulgaria, Romania or Cyprus you will need a Schengen-Visa to go to Slovakia.
Exception: The residence-premit of the above 5 countries was issued based on marriage to an EU-citizen. But if you're married to an EU-citizen, you do not need a Visa for anywhere in the EU at all.
Also see >>here<< and >>here<<.
Regards, Christian |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
rogerex
Junior Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Posts: 43
|
| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
Thta is not case as I have a UK resident permit and I'm married to an Slovak.
When she called her embassy in the Uk thye told her I do need a visa |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
86ti
Guru
Joined: 21 Nov 2007
Posts: 1398
Location: Warrington, UK
|
| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:29 am Post subject: |
|
|
| rogerex wrote: | | Thta is not case as I have a UK resident permit and I'm married to an Slovak. |
Do you have a residence card as the family member of an EEA citizen? If so you could try to clarify the situation through SOLVIT. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
rogerex
Junior Member
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Posts: 43
|
| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:38 am Post subject: |
|
|
| yes residence card of a EEA citizen (Slovakia) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ben
Guru
Joined: 05 Jul 2007
Posts: 2266
Location: Waterford
|
| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:43 am Post subject: |
|
|
| rogerex wrote: | | yes residence card of a EEA citizen (Slovakia) |
Well then you don't need a visa if entering Slovakia in the company of, or to join, your spouse.
_________________
一人有一個臘腸 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ca.funke
Sage
Joined: 10 Feb 2008
Posts: 616
Location: Zürich (INside(!) Schengen)
|
| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| rogerex wrote: | Thta is not case as I have a UK resident permit and I'm married to an Slovak.
When she called her embassy in the Uk thye told her I do need a visa |
It may well be that the Slovak embassy in the UK told you that - however it is not true.
They tell people what they THINK is right, but if you follow the links I gave in my previous post you can learn WHY you do not need a visa.
In your case, no matter what the embassy tells you, you do NOT need a visa.
Happy travelling. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
charles4u
Senior Member
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Posts: 367
|
| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| ca.funke wrote: |
Exception: The residence-premit of the above 5 countries was issued based on marriage to an EU-citizen. But if you're married to an EU-citizen, you do not need a Visa for anywhere in the EU at all.
Regards, Christian |
Including UK ?  .......hahaha I'm sure UK is not a member of EU
_________________
Charles4u |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
AncientAlien
Member
Joined: 21 Dec 2008
Posts: 98
Location: Planet Earth
|
| Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:08 am Post subject: |
|
|
| 86ti wrote: | | AncientAlien wrote: | | I have just recently returned from a six-day holiday to Latvia. The whole travel process was completely hassle free, although I must add that I was with my spouce who is an EEA citizen (Latvian). |
I reported a similar experience earlier in this thread (Sep or Oct 2008). Yes, with Latvia it seems to have been working correctly for a long while now. Through which UK airport did you return? |
I returned through London stanstead airport
_________________
All the concentrated darkness in the whole world cannot extinguish the light of a single candle! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
charles4u
Senior Member
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Posts: 367
|
| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:52 am Post subject: |
|
|
I noticed some certain EU countries allow EU family members with a valid residence permit as a family member of an EU to travel INDEPENDENTLY without in need of a visa or the EU spouse. They only have to hold (The family ID card, Copy of marriage certificate and maybe a copy of the EU spouse's ID) when travelling.
Atleast from what I know and comfirmed, the EU countries that allow independent visa-free travel for EU family member permit holders are : HUNGARY, SPAIN, CZECH, SLOVAKIA, BELGIUM, CYPRUS and BULGARIA.
I will update if I hear anything new.
_________________
Charles4u |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Directive/2004/38/EC
Guru
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Posts: 2078
Location: EU
|
| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| charles4u wrote: | | At least from what I know and comfirmed, the EU countries that allow independent visa-free travel for EU family member permit holders are : HUNGARY, SPAIN, CZECH, SLOVAKIA, BELGIUM, CYPRUS and BULGARIA. |
Do you have any references to this? Any government web sites that mention this, e.g. Spain?
_________________
Directive 2004/38/EC lays out most of the freedom of movement and residency rights (for both EU citizens and their non-EU families): http://eumovement.wordpress.com/ |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
charles4u
Senior Member
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Posts: 367
|
| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Directive/2004/38/EC wrote: | | charles4u wrote: | | At least from what I know and comfirmed, the EU countries that allow independent visa-free travel for EU family member permit holders are : HUNGARY, SPAIN, CZECH, SLOVAKIA, BELGIUM, CYPRUS and BULGARIA. |
Do you have any references to this? Any government web sites that mention this, e.g. Spain? |
Yes they gave me a site but I couldnt read it cus its in Spanish. Maybe you can somehow. I wasnt sure myself and I had to comfirm twice and you can see the message below.
| Quote: | From: . Emb. Bucarest. Información <emb.bucarest.info@maec.es>
Subject: RE: Response
To: "charles" <***********>
Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 8:04 AM
Yes. You can travel alone, without visa, with your passport and your residence card.
Best Regards,
Sección Consular
Embajada de España
Bucarest
-----Mensaje original-----
De: charles [mailto:***********]
Enviado el: lunes, 31 de agosto de 2009 14:39
Para: . Emb. Bucarest. Información
Asunto: Re: Response
Hello,
Thank you for your reply, So I can travel to Spain alone with my residence card as a family member of an EU citizen issued by Romania without in need of a visa ?
My wife is currently in Germany, I want to meet a friend in Spain for 2 weeks before I join my wife in Germany. I tried to call the embassy in Bucharest but I couldn't reach through. So I dont need a visa anyway right ?
Kind Regards
--- On Mon, 8/31/09, . Emb. Bucarest. Información <emb.bucarest.info@maec.es> wrote:
From: . Emb. Bucarest. Información <emb.bucarest.info@maec.es>
Subject: Response
To: ************
Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 7:20 AM
Dear Sir,
We inform you that starting with 23 of July 2009 the persons with the ID for family members can travel to Spain without the visa. You can find the document published in BOE nº 177/23.07.2009 www.boe.es
So, you can travel directly to Spain with your passport and your residence card as a family member (remember, only if it´s a residence card as a family member).
Best Regards,
Sección Consular
Embajada de España
Bucarest
|
If you want, I can also give you the comfirmations from the other embassies.
_________________
Charles4u
Last edited by charles4u on Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:14 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Obie
Guru
Joined: 21 Apr 2009
Posts: 1597
Location: UK/Ireland
|
| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
You could also add Sweden to your list.
_________________
Weeping may endure for the night but joy comes in the morning. Success doesn't come without strife |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
charles4u
Senior Member
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Posts: 367
|
| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Obie wrote: | | You could also add Sweden to your list. |
No, I dont think Sweden allow independent travel for EU family permit holders.
Mind you, Romania is not yet in Schengen....so I assume its the agreement that qualifies Romanian family members. Sweden might allow family member permit holders from Schengen countries if you get what I mean.
_________________
Charles4u |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Obie
Guru
Joined: 21 Apr 2009
Posts: 1597
Location: UK/Ireland
|
| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
A friend of mine with UK Resident Card traveled to Sweden Visa free without his EEA partner. He even went to Norway from there.
I also think Lithuanians allows visa free travel with or without the EEA family member, although i don't know anyone who has tried it yet.
I think the Swedes are one of the most pro-EU entity in Europe, so i was not surprised.
_________________
Weeping may endure for the night but joy comes in the morning. Success doesn't come without strife |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
charles4u
Senior Member
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Posts: 367
|
| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Obie wrote: | A friend of mine with UK Resident Card traveled to Sweden Visa free without his EEA partner. He even went to Norway from there.
I also think Lithuanians allows visa free travel with or without the EEA family member, although i don't know anyone who has tried it yet.
I think the Swedes are one of the most pro-EU entity in Europe, so i was not surprised. |
Wow this is strange but I am not too surprise either cus I know Sweden as you said is a pro-EU entity.
Well let me add GREECE too as they also allow EU family member permit holder to travel independently.
Maybe this last EU Directive/2004/38/EC report really really worked.
_________________
Charles4u |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
86ti
Guru
Joined: 21 Nov 2007
Posts: 1398
Location: Warrington, UK
|
| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Directive/2004/38/EC wrote: | | charles4u wrote: | | At least from what I know and comfirmed, the EU countries that allow independent visa-free travel for EU family member permit holders are : HUNGARY, SPAIN, CZECH, SLOVAKIA, BELGIUM, CYPRUS and BULGARIA. |
Do you have any references to this? Any government web sites that mention this, e.g. Spain? |
The Spanish document is an amendment to Royal Decree 240/2007 for Article 4, paragraph 2 (referring to Article 5.2 of the Directive). Google translates the new text as: "The possession of the family residence card of citizen of the Union, valid and in force, issued by another State party to the Agreement on the European Economic Area, shall exempt such family members from the obligation to obtain the visa entry, and the production of this card does not require the stamping of entry or exit in the passport.".
The original text stated that only residence cards issued by full members of the Schengen agreement would be acceptable (we have a link somewhere in this thread). |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Obie
Guru
Joined: 21 Apr 2009
Posts: 1597
Location: UK/Ireland
|
| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Maybe, just maybe our friends in the UK and Ireland might see some sense and allow free travel for holders of EU Resident Card with or without EU partner. One can only hope.
Although i personally think the possibility of that is near zero if not absolute zero.
That is excellent 86ti, i have been trying to find it and get it translated for the past hour now, with no success.
Great job mate.
_________________
Weeping may endure for the night but joy comes in the morning. Success doesn't come without strife |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
charles4u
Senior Member
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Posts: 367
|
| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| 86ti wrote: |
The Spanish document is an amendment to Royal Decree 240/2007 for Article 4, paragraph 2 (referring to Article 5.2 of the Directive). Google translates the new text as: "The possession of the family residence card of citizen of the Union, valid and in force, issued by another State party to the Agreement on the European Economic Area, shall exempt such family members from the obligation to obtain the visa entry, and the production of this card does not require the stamping of entry or exit in the passport.".
The original text stated that only residence cards issued by full members of the Schengen agreement would be acceptable (we have a link somewhere in this thread). |
Thanks for the translation but they accept Romanian family member ID also and we all know Romania is not yet in Schengen.
ummm I noticed something ..."The possession of the family residence card of citizen of the Union, valid and in force, issued by another State party to the Agreement on the European Economic Area, shall exempt such family members from the obligation to obtain the visa entry"
_________________
Charles4u |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
charles4u
Senior Member
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Posts: 367
|
| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Obie wrote: | Maybe, just maybe our friends in the UK and Ireland might see some sense and allow free travel for holders of EU Resident Card with or without EU partner. One can only hope.
Although i personally think the possibility of that is near zero if not absolute zero.
That is excellent 86ti, i have been trying to find it and get it translated for the past hour now, with no success.
Great job mate. |
I doubt that.
Even if they dont allow independently, atleast they should allow family member residence holder to accompany their EU spouse without visa.
I just feel its unfair for family members of UK or Ireland to come to Spain or Germany without a visa and German or Spanish family members have to go through applications and stuffs just for a visa to UK or Ireland.
_________________
Charles4u |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Register
Private Messages
Profile
Log in
