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lamaha
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Vinny,
thanks for replying and sorry it took so long; I did not know that anyone had replied.

I tried to read the link you posted, but unfortunately I am not very good at interpreting "legalese". Am I to understand that "widowed" can include "divorced" or even "never married"?

My mother is 93. The main reason for bringing her over is actually "exceptional compassionate circumstances". There are no adequate care homes in my country and she needs her family. She has no other relatives in the world except us, her daughter and grandchildren, all EU citizens permanently settled in the UK.

Thanks again!
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vinny wrote:
lamaha wrote:
Hello! My situation is a little different... I find it strange that they specify that the older relative must be widowed!
I've read this over and over again and they even underline the bit about being widowed. This is very strange. What if the mother was never married, or is divorced?

My mother, who is now 93, is not widowed. She is divorced. She and my dad divorced when I was 3 -- I am assuming that counts as widowed!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding my question re "divorced mother" I dug a little deeper thanks to the the article posted by Vinny, and found the following; which is quoted in the article:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/policyandlaw/IDIs/idischapter8/08section6/annexv.pdf?view=Binary
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DEPENDENT RELATIVES
PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS
1. INTRODUCTION
The requirements of paragraphs 317 - 319 must be met in all cases including the maintenance and accommodation requirements. For further guidance see IDI chapter 8, Section 1 Annex F - maintenance and accommodation. In addition to the normal requirements applicants seeking leave to enter or remain under the provisions of paragraph 317(i) (e) and 319V (i) (e) must additionally be living alone in the most exceptional compassionate circumstances.
Widowed, single, separated or divorced parents of any age may also be considered under paragraph 317 and and 319V also parents travelling together who are both under 65.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today, I called this immigration website http://www.ukvisaandimmigration.co.uk/what-we-do.php
and spoke to an advisor, describing my case in detail. She said that as I am a EU citizen I would only have to pay £800 for my mother to come over, whereas as a British citizen it would be £1800. ANyone know anything about this ruling? I have never heard of it before! I was about to apply for British Citizenship now specifically because I thought it would stregthen my case to bring my mother to this country.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lamaha wrote:
Today, I called this immigration website http://www.ukvisaandimmigration.co.uk/what-we-do.php
and spoke to an advisor, describing my case in detail. She said that as I am a EU citizen I would only have to pay £800 for my mother to come over, whereas as a British citizen it would be £1800. ANyone know anything about this ruling? I have never heard of it before! I was about to apply for British Citizenship now specifically because I thought it would stregthen my case to bring my mother to this country.


Correction: that £800 is actually the soliciotr's fee charged by that website. In fact, my mother would not have to pay for a visa at all! It is all in the following document. I find it strange that it is far easier to bring her here as a non-British EU citizen, than if I were British!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:00 am    Post subject: Urgent - Mum Under 65 needs permanent assistance Reply with quote

I am in a precarious situation and would appreciate if anyone can help me. My mother has been suffering from her leg over the past years. Last week, she fell over and was taken to hospital. The doctor has now advised that she need permanent assistance as she is now partly disabled with one leg. My mother lives on her own and there is no one to look after her there. My sisters are married and lives in India and due to their financial and personal circumstances, moving with them are not an option for my mum. My mum is under 65 years old and has no knowledge of English. I previously made a visitor visa application which was refused on the basis that she does not have enough ties in India.


It is quite unsettling that I am not able to help my mum in this situation and would like to bring my mum as a dependant here (I am British Citizen). However, I would like to know the chances of such application and would like to seek professional advice to help me with this application. Can anyone please help and advice on my chances and appropriate professional immigration advisers to speak to?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:56 am    Post subject: Re: Urgent - Mum Under 65 needs permanent assistance Reply with quote

Alvyn wrote:



It is quite unsettling that I am not able to help my mum in this situation and would like to bring my mum as a dependant here (I am British Citizen). However, I would like to know the chances of such application and would like to seek professional advice to help me with this application. Can anyone please help and advice on my chances and appropriate professional immigration advisers to speak to?


I don't have any advice but I spoke to someone on this website and they gave me some excellent information that I didn't know before, and for free:
http://www.ukvisaandimmigration.co.uk/what-we-do.php

Good Luck!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear all
my mother is alone in pakistan
if she arrived in uk on visit visa and then she apply for long staying
is it possible
my father was murdered (dead) and i am afraid as well that some one come in our house where my mother staying they can be create trouble for her as well that why we left city and living in 300 miles away
so is it possible that she came in uk on visit visa and then apply for other required visa for long stay
i know she needs entry clearance from pakistan but she can take entry clearnace for visit visa
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, great work! You have helped me to improve my knowledge about this field. Thank you so much for sharing.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shiqbal202 wrote:
Dear all
my mother is alone in pakistan
if she arrived in uk on visit visa and then she apply for long staying
is it possible
my father was murdered (dead) and i am afraid as well that some one come in our house where my mother staying they can be create trouble for her as well that why we left city and living in 300 miles away
so is it possible that she came in uk on visit visa and then apply for other required visa for long stay
i know she needs entry clearance from pakistan but she can take entry clearnace for visit visa


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:04 pm    Post subject: ILR for widowed mother while she is visiting us in uk Reply with quote

Is it possible for my widowed mother who is almost 65 now (as according to the ho law, we can apply for her ilr) to apply for ILR while staying in UK? She is visiting us on her visit visa (3rd time visited us) and one of my solicitor friend informed me it would be possible for her to apply now while she is here on the visit visa.
Our details: Me as British Citizen and wife as spousal visa.

Also if she is ok/eligible to apply now, or maybe from home land, does she also need to pass the LIFE IN THE UK TEST? And its it from home land, where would this test be taken? Do we need to contact the British Embassy for the test details?

Will wait for your responses/replies.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:05 am    Post subject: Parents who are financially not dependant Reply with quote

I find it quite strange that the rules give provision for parents settlement only if parents are financially dependant upon children settled in UK.

In our case, we are 2 siblings: me and my sister. Both are settled in UK with our families and are professionals. Our parents are both retired in our native country and are financially sound - means they don't need us to support them financially as such. However, as we are their only 2 children, the financial dependence is not the only thing, rather there is an emotional relationship between parents and children and after their retirement now, they want to live with us in UK.

Is there any provision in any immigration category for them to settle with us in UK?

(Additional info: As they were both working before retiring, so for past about 10+ years, they had been visiting us in UK on holidays, about 2 months every year, on visit visa. And even now hold a 5 year visit visa)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second the above post, we also are in a similar situation. Any expert opinion ?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm the new to here,and willing to hear any more information Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:32 am    Post subject: Bringing Grand Children to the UK Reply with quote

Hi,

Both my wife and I are resident in the UK (UK citizens). Could someone advise on what conditions and how can we bring in our 2 grandchildren (15 and 6 years) to live with us in the UK? Many thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:25 pm    Post subject: Can I apply for my parents to come over? Reply with quote

My parents are both just over 65, living in china, having only 2 children, me and my sister, both settled in UK as UK citizens now. I am just wondering what are the chances of them getting a dependant visa to come here permanantly? They are both retired, but have pension (not massive). Is there any possiblity?

Hope anyone can help, or have similar success stories, or can recommend any solicitors that are good at these cases?

Thanks Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys,
My father si visiting me on multiple entry visit visa. I have indefinite leave to remain here. In our home country my father
1- has no finanical connections in terms of property or bank balance.
2- He is financially dependent on me.
3- My mothers has paased away and my siblings are married and not able to keep him with them.

I want to apply for his permanent stay visa while he is here on visit visa.
Can someone please guide me about the procedure, fees, time it takes to get an answer (as he can only stay 6 months here on visit visa) and where to apply?

Many thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some changes were tabled in the parliament yesterday. Read points 18-24 of the Statement of changes in immigration rules (HC 1511).

The most significant one:
From 31-Oct. - parent or grandparent who is divorced, widowed, single or separated aged 65 years or over - will be eligible.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Moderator,
thanks for sharing this information. Can someone please enlighten me whether it is possible to apply for ILR for my single over 65yo father who is currently visiting me on visit visa?
If yes then which form to fill?
thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that's not allowed
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my father is over 65 while my mother is below, they are financially indepenent however I do send them some money every 3 months. I have two sisters, one live abroad and the other live around 200 miles away from my parents. I am the only son .

If one of them fell sick there is none to look after them which is why I want them to come over and live with me. My father needs foot operation but not doing it as he cant afford to stay in bed for a few months, as he himself has to do all the shopping etc.

Can anyone tell me what are the chances my parents get ILR. Its not just financial dependence that matters, they also need physical help in different things. The visa fee is very high(around £4500 for both my parents), so I really wish to know what are the chances, if it gets rejected it will be a huge financial loss for me.
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