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From: Christian
Date: 2008/4/4
Subject: SG/CDC/2008/A/1076 --- Complaint against the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
To: SG-PLAINTES@ec.europa.eu
Dear Madam or Sir,
I hereby further specify my complaint against the UK exactly to the relevant point:
Article 5, Section 2, of Directive 2004/38/EC sais:
This stipulates, as the website of the Commission specifies, that family members of EU-citizens, who are in possession of a valid residence permit issued by ANY memberstate, are exemted from the visa requirement.Family members who are not nationals of a Member State
shall only be required to have an entry visa in accordance with
Regulation (EC) No 539/2001 or, where appropriate, with
national law. For the purposes of this Directive, possession of
the valid residence card referred to in Article 10 shall exempt
such family members from the visa requirement.
The UK does not agree:
In the UK, 2004/38/EC is implemented through >>SI 2006 No.1003<<.
"Part 2" - Article 11 Section 2 Point a und b say:
Even short term visitors are obliged to apply for the mentioned "EEA-family-permit".(2) A person who is not an EEA national must be admitted to the United Kingdom if he is a family member of an EEA national, a family member who has retained the right of residence or a person with a permanent right of residence under regulation 15 and produces on arrival—
(a) a valid passport; and
(b) an EEA family permit, a residence card or a permanent residence card
The "residence-card" is listed, however, in practice, only UK-issued "residence-cards" are accepted.
(...)
It would be good if this would be changed in such a way, that "residence cards of all memberstates" are explicitly accepted.
The current interpretation does not unfold the spirit of freedom intended by the directive.
(...)
Update May 12th 2011 - Received a letter from the Commission:From: Christian
Date: 2008/4/4
Subject: SG/CDC/2008/A/1076 --- Beschwerde gegen das Vereinigte Königreich von Großbritannien und Nordirland
To: SG-PLAINTES@ec.europa.eu
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
hiermit präzisiere ich meine Beschwerde gegen das Vereinigte Königreich von Großbritannien und Nordirland exakt auf den relevanten Punkt:
Regulierung 2004/38/EC sagt in Artikel 5 Absatz 2 folgendes:
Dadurch ergibt sich, wie die Kommissionswebseite präzisiert, dass Familienangehörige eines EU-Bürgers, die im Besitz einer gültigen Aufenthaltskarte aus irgendeinem Mitgliedstaat sind, in allen Mitgliedstaaten von der Visumpflicht befreit sind.Von Familienangehörigen, die nicht die Staatsangehörigkeit
eines Mitgliedstaats besitzen, ist gemäß der Verordnung
(EG) Nr. 539/2001 oder gegebenenfalls den einzelstaatlichen
Rechtsvorschriften lediglich ein Einreisevisum zu fordern. Für
die Zwecke dieser Richtlinie entbindet der Besitz einer gültigen
Aufenthaltskarte gemäß Artikel 10 diese Familienangehörigen
von der Visumspflicht.
Dies sieht das UK anders:
2004/38/EC wird im UK durch >>SI 2006 No.1003<< umgesetzt.
Unter "Part 2" - Artikel 11 Absatz 2 Punkt a und b heisst es hier:
Zu Besuchsreisen wird hier von Familienangehörigen immer die genannte "EEA-family-permit"-Genehmigung verlangt.(2) A person who is not an EEA national must be admitted to the United Kingdom if he is a family member of an EEA national, a family member who has retained the right of residence or a person with a permanent right of residence under regulation 15 and produces on arrival—
(a) a valid passport; and
(b) an EEA family permit, a residence card or a permanent residence card
Zwar wird die "residence-card" aufgezählt, in der Praxis wird aber nur eine britische "residence-card" anerkannt.
Das dies die Interpretation der Behörden ist, ist auch in meinen bereits früher angeführten Emails zu lesen.
Es wäre schön hier eine Änderung herbeizuführen, so dass "residence cards" aller Mitgliedsstaaten explizit anerkannt werden.
In der aktuellen Situation entfaltet sich der Freiheitsgedanke der Regulierung nicht.
Gruß aus Dublin
(...)Concerning the transposition of the visa exemptoin rule of Article 5(2) of the Directive in the UK, we drew attention to this particular issue in a bilateral meeting on 5 July 2010. The UK authorities replied on 24 February 2011 and maintained that the UK laws are not contrary to the Directive.
We are currently finalising our assessment of the UK transposition of the Directive. If our assessement, once finished, concludes that the UK rules on visa exemption are not in line with EU law, we will consider launching infringement proceedings against the UK under Article 258 of the Treaty of the functioning of the European Union.(...)
Update May 12th 2011 - Received a letter from the Commission:Dear Sir or Madam,
I hereby lodge a complaint against the Republic of Ireland.
This complaint comprises two items:
Item 1:
Directive 2004/38/EC (available here), article 5, section 2, states:
The comissions' website clarifies this as follows:Family members who are not nationals of a Member State shall only be required to have an entry visa in accordance with Regulation (EC) No 539/2001 or, where appropriate, with national law.
(...)
Member States shall grant such persons every facility to obtain the necessary visas. Such visas shall be issued free of charge as soon as possible and on the basis of an accelerated procedure.
As a summary, when an EU-citizen wants to visit Ireland together with his/her NON-EU spouse, and where 2004/38/EC applies, all that Ireland is allowed to demand before BEING OBLIGED to issue a visa, is:YOU MIGHT BE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN ENTRY VISA
Family members holding nationality of certain countries[3], which are subject to visa obligation, may be required to have an entry visa.
It is not allowed to require any other type of visa, such as residence or family reunification visa.
(...)
(...)
The Member State of destination should grant you every facility to obtain the necessary visa, which shall be issued free of charge as soon as possible and on the basis of an accelerated procedure. (...)
As your right of entry is derived from your family ties with a Union citizen, all the Member State consular officials can ask you to produce for the visa application is your passport and a document establishing the family ties with a Union citizen, such as marriage or birth certificate and proof of dependence, where applicable.
The Republic of Ireland does not follow this interpretation. As stated on the website of the relevant Irish authority (attached as screenshot "GNIB"), an EU-citizen who wants to visit Ireland together with his/her NON-EU spouse has to produce the following papers, before Ireland will deal with the visa-application:
- both passports AND
- the marriage certificate
- Application Form
- Passport
- Valid Residence Card for EU State
- Marriage Certificate – evidence (apostilled document) that marriage has been registered in applicant's country of origin/residence
- Birth Certificate (long form) for children under 21 years, parental consent, national identity card (signed if required)
- Evidence that the EU Citizen spouse is exercising their EU Treaty Rights by being employed/self employed in the State or engaged in a valid vocational training programme or has sufficient financial resources and comprehensive sickness insurance cover
- Evidence that the applicant is accompanying the EU Citizen to Ireland – e.g. return airline/ferry tickets in both names
The additionally demanded papers ignore the spirit of the directive, and directly contradict what is stated on the commissions' website, as cited above.
Item 2:
The same directive, 2004/38/EC, article 5, section 2, states:
The comissions' website clarifies this part as follows:Family members who are not nationals of a Member State
shall only be required to have an entry visa
(...)
For the purposes of this Directive, possession of
the valid residence card referred to in Article 10 shall exempt
such family members from the visa requirement.
(...)
As a summary, a married EU / non-EU couple, which is in posessionYOU MIGHT BE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN ENTRY VISA
Family members holding nationality of certain countries[3], which are subject to visa obligation, may be required to have an entry visa.
(...)
Possession of the valid residence card, referred to in the relevant fact sheet, issued by any Member State, exempts you from the visa obligation not only in the Member State which issued the residence card, but in all Member States.is allowed to enter Ireland without an additional visa.
- of a residence-card
- that is issued according to this law
- by any EU-state other than Ireland
The Republic of Ireland does not follow this interpretation. The website of the relevant Irish authority (attached as screenshot "GNIB") does not state this fact at all.
Instead, Ireland insists that the visa, as described, is necessary for any visit to Ireland, regardless of personal circumstances.
Thanks for dealing with this as a grave matter.
Thanks and regards from Dublin
(...)Concerning the transposition of the visa exemption rule of Article 5 (2) of the Directive in Ireland, the Irish authorities announced recently that they are amending their laws to comply with the Directive(...)
Update May 12th 2011 - Received a letter from the Commission:---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Christian
Date: Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:06
Subject: Re: Complaint against the Republic of Ireland
To: EU Plaintes <sg-plaintes@ec.europa.eu>
Dear Sir or Madam,
the Republic of Ireland is in breach of Directive 2004/38/EC in yet a new way:
When a residence-card as per Article 10 of the Directive is issued, the authorities now take fingerprints of the applicants and store them at unknown locations/databases for unknown/unspecified reasons.
I believe this procedure to be in contradiction of Article 10, section 2, which gives an exhaustive list of requirements that applicants have to provide. Fingerprint are not listed and may therefore not be required.
Please investigate whether this procedure breaks EU-law.
Thanks and regards from Dublin,
(...)Currently, there is no explicit EC legal basis for the Member States to process the biometrics in residence cards for family members of EU-citizens. This, however, does not mean that taking fingerprints is unlawful as the appropriate legal basis could also be provided in national legislation, if it is necessary for a specific purpose related to EU law.
The fingerprinting and the subsequent processing of the personal data must in particular be proportionate and in line with the (national and EC) legal provisions for the processing of personal data as reading, collection and storage of biometrics is "processing of personal data" as defined by Article 2 of Data Protection Directive 95/46/EC.(...)
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Christian
Date: Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Subject: Complaint against various countries in connection with 2004/38/EC
To: EU Plaintes <sg-plaintes@ec.europa.eu>
Cc: consulate_dublin@mzv.cz, embassy.dublin@mfa.ee, chancellerie@ambafrance.ie, embgr@eircom.net, mission.dub@kum.hu, ambasciata.dublino@esteri.it, amb.ie@urm.lt, correio@dgaccp.pt, ptembasseydublin@tinet.ie, slovak@iol.ie, consular.dubli@fco.gov.uk
Dear Madam or Sir,
I hereby lodge a complaint against the following countries:Grounds for the complaint:
- the Czech Republic
- Estonia
- France
- Greece
- Hungary
- Italy
- Lithuania
- Portugal
- Slovakia
- the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
I am German, my wife is Lebanese, we live in Ireland and we are in possession of a "Residence card of a family member of a Union citizen" (in Ireland called "4EUFam").
As per Directive 2004/38/EC, Articles 5 and 10, we have the right to travel throughout all of the European Union without additional visas for my Lebanese wife. This right is additionally confirmed on >>your very own website<<.
(http://ec.europa.eu/youreurope/nav/en/c ... ex_en.html)YOU MIGHT BE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN ENTRY VISA
(...)
Possession of the valid residence card, referred to in the relevant fact sheet, issued by any Member State, exempts you from the visa obligation not only in the Member State which issued the residence card, but in all Member States.
The above mentioned countries deny us this right, urging us to apply for visas before traveling.
Please see emails exchanged and websites reviewed with/of the above embassies on >>this<< website.
(http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=30020)
Thanks for taking immediate action, as we are deprived of one of our most fundamental rights, the freedom of movement.
Regards from Dublin
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Christian
Date: Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 16:56
Subject: Complaint against the UK
To: EU Commission - Complaints <sg-plaintes@ec.europa.eu>
Cc: chancery.dublx@fco.gov.uk, visas.dubli@fco.gov.uk, Solvit UK <solvit@berr.gsi.gov.uk>, Solvit Ireland <solvit@entemp.ie>
Dear European Commission,
Dear Madam or Sir,
For your information CC the British Embassy in the Ireland and Solvit Ireland and the UK
I hereby lodge a complaint against the UK.
Article 5, Section 2 of Directive 2004/38/EC states that non-EU family members of EU citizens shall get visas without undue formalities and on the basis on an accelerated procedure.
As you (the Commission) write on your own website, in order to issue such visas member-states are only allowed to ask for:Member States shall grant such persons every facility to obtain
the necessary visas. Such visas shall be issued free of charge as
soon as possible and on the basis of an accelerated procedure.The British Embassy in Ireland demands that a visa-appointment is taken via a website (http://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk). The earliest appointments are usually available roughly after 2 weeks (see attachement appointment.pdf, screenshot of today, October 01st 2008), which does not resemble any "accelerated procedure", as the law provides.
- Passport of EEA-citizen
- Passport of non-EU family member
- Document showing the family-bond, such as marriage certificate
In order to be able to take this appointment lots of questions which go far beyond asking for passports and the marriage-certificate are asked. (see attachement eea.pdf, showing the 131 questions to be answered)
During the appointment the applicant is informed that the application will be decidet upon after "2 to 15 days". 15 days are not "accelerated" as this is the case for all applications.
Last but not least the UK authorities require the applicant to appear in the embassy in person to be able to take biometric data such as fingerprints. As such biometric data is not mentioned in the directive, this is equally in breach of this law.
Thank you for changing the approach taken by the UK's authorities through appropriate measures.
Regards from Dublin
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Christian
Date: Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 00:56
Subject: Complaint against the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom
To: EU Commission - Complaints <sg-plaintes@ec.europa.eu>
Dear Madam or Sir,
the UK and Ireland operate the so called "Common Travel Area", which is an agreement that (mainly) allows checkpoint-free travel between these two states.
The implications of this are explained on the following Irish government's website:
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categ ... and_the_UK
The following sentence can be found.This is clearly a discrimination against all other EU-citizens, travelling on the same routes as Irish or UK citizens....The Common Travel Area means that there are no passport controls in operation for Irish and UK citizens travelling between the two countries...
For the UK, the following link contains a leaftlet by relevant ministers: (attached, uk-ireland-border-checks-consult.pdf)
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2008/jul ... onsult.pdf
Here, the following sentence can be found.Please investigate weather such a discriminatory regulation against "non-CTA" EU-citizens can be valid within the EU.
- introduction of full immigration controls for non-CTA nationals of countries other than the UK, the Republic of Ireland and the Crown dependencies on all sea and air routes by 2014
- new measures to verify the identities of UK, Irish and Crown dependency nationals on the same air and sea routes;
- the UK will consider increasing ad hoc immigration checks on vehicles in order to target non-CTA nationals on the Northern Ireland side of the land border.
- Movement without immigration controls for nationals of the CTA has been an important component of the special relationship which exists between the peoples of these islands, and provides long established political, economic and social benefits
- ...many more examples can be found in the text...
Regards
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Christian
Date: Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 22:13
Subject: Complaint against the Kingdom of Belgium
To: EU Commission - Complaints <sg-plaintes@ec.europa.eu>
Dear Sir or Madam,
I am a Belgian/German citizen, living with my Lebanese wife in Belgium.
As I excersised treaty-rights in Ireland together with my wife, Directive 2004/38/EC applies for us in Belgium although I'm a Belgian citizen. ("Surinder Singh Case") This does not seem to be a problem, as Belgium treats their own citizens according to the same laws as other EU-nationals anyway.
Upon arrival in Belgium we filed an application for a residence-card in accordance with Article 10 of Directive 2004/38/EC.
We were told that this will be treated according to Article 52 of the Royal Order of 08th October 1981.Please investigate if Belgium is in breach of Directive 2004/38/EC in this regard.
- The Belgian law provides that my wife immediately receives a "proof of registration" ("attest van immatriculatie model A"). This card mentions that my wife is not allowed to work, which directly contradicts Article 23 of Directive 2004/38/EC.
- We were told that other provisions, possibly §3 of Article 52 of the Royal Order of 08th October 1981, mean that we are not allowed to leave Belgium during the timespan (§4 - up to five months) in which our application is pending. As territorial or travel-restrictions are not mentioned anywhere in the Directive, this must equally be contradicting the Directive should it be Belgian law.
Thanks and regards
A UK photocard driving licence is not proof of British citizenship if the holder was born in the UK after 31st December 1982 or outside the UK at any time.Obie wrote:Informed them about the incident when she came in with her driving licence
I also complained to the European Commission about this, by email, on 22/05/2009. No repsonse.ca.funke wrote:Against Ireland taking fingerprints, which is incompatible with 2004/38/EC.
On 12/03/2009 I sent this to them:ca.funke wrote:This is against the UNREAL provisions of the envisaged CTA between the UK, Ireland and the crown-dependencies...
Therefore a union citizen has a right to travel to Ireland with a drivers licence, provided they can corroborate by other mean (Besides National Identity card or passport) that they are covered by the freedom of movement.Article 5 Directive 2004/38EC wrote: 4. Where a Union citizen, or a family member who is not a
national of a Member State, does not have the necessary travel
documents or, if required, the necessary visas, the Member
State concerned shall, before turning them back, give such
persons every reasonable opportunity to obtain the necessary
documents or have them brought to them within a reasonable
period of time or to corroborate or prove by other means that
they are covered by the right of free movement and residence.