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ak145m
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: FLR M Reply with quote

2222, I applied after a month and submitted my biometric on 11 April but still no response, hopefully you will receive soon.
As your wait has passed 6 months, did you not call UKBA yet?

2222 wrote:
Still no changes to my waiting time!! 6 months and 8 days since I applied.

Visa from - Tier 4 (Valid till 30th Sep 2012)
FLR M applied on 27th February
Payment out of the bank: 29th February
Acknowledgement letter: I didn't get one!!
Biometric letter received on 16th March
Biometric completed on 28th March
Document return: still waiting!!!
Biometric card: still waiting!!!
Any one applied after me and got Visa??
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Received biometrics letter Reply with quote

TnT-FreaK wrote:

So if I was to play the estimation game, would it be fair to say that once UKBA receives the biometrics information, your application could end up in one of two buckets.

Bucket 1) UKBA thinks your application is straight forward and your visa is granted in roughly 45 days (from biometrics)
Bucket 2) UKBA due to some random reason thinks that there is something suspicious with your application and your application goes into this 6 month+ category

Am I generalising too much or is there any truth to do this?



I for one hope you are generalising! I am approaching 6 months. From reading this forum I have guessed that applications are allocated to one of a number of teams, and the size/performance of that team is a major factor in how quickly the application gets processed. I hope we are not a suspicious case!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: Received biometrics letter Reply with quote

TnT-FreaK wrote:
So peeps, as expected, we got the biometrics letter today. Not much of an update otherwise, we just now join the long queue of people waiting for their visas.

So if I was to play the estimation game, would it be fair to say that once UKBA receives the biometrics information, your application could end up in one of two buckets.

Bucket 1) UKBA thinks your application is straight forward and your visa is granted in roughly 45 days (from biometrics)
Bucket 2) UKBA due to some random reason thinks that there is something suspicious with your application and your application goes into this 6 month+ category

Am I generalising too much or is there any truth to do this?


Timeline fore reference:

Date applied/docs sent: 04/07/2012
Date application received by UKBA: 05/07/2012
Date received ack. letter: 11/07/2012 Dated 09/07/2012
Date biometrics booking letter arrived: 03/09/2012
Date biometrics appointment: 04/09/2012
Date Passport/Docs received from HO: pending...
Biometric Card Received: pending...
Visa Type : FLR(M) Spouse
Visa From: PSW


Really glad for you TnT-FreaK. My timeline is similar to yours but I am still waiting for my biometrics letter Crying or Very sad

From - Tier 2 (Valid till 30th Sep 2012)
FLR M applied online – 3rd July 2012
Payment out of the bank: 3rd July 2012
Acknowledgement letter dated: 13th July 2012
Biometric letter received: Waiting……..
Biometric completed: Waiting………….
Documents returned: Waiting……………..
Biometric card: Waiting………………
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stephanielqy
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone, I'm one of those January/February black hole applications. It's been more than 6 months since my documents were sent in and 5 months post-biometrics appointment.

2222 - Don't worry you're not alone! Maybe we're assigned to the same donkey caseworker, who knows.


My timeline :

Date applied/docs sent: 16/02/2012
Date application received by UKBA: 20/02/2012
Date received ack. letter: 23/02/2012
Date biometrics booking letter arrived: 22/03/2012
Date biometrics appointment: 03/04/2012
Date passport/docs received from HO: Waiting
Biometrics card received: Waiting
Visa Type : FLR(M) Spouse
Visa From: Fiancee
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stephanielqy wrote:
Hi everyone, I'm one of those January/February black hole applications. It's been more than 6 months since my documents were sent in and 5 months post-biometrics appointment.

2222 - Don't worry you're not alone! Maybe we're assigned to the same donkey caseworker, who knows.


My timeline :

Date applied/docs sent: 16/02/2012
Date application received by UKBA: 20/02/2012
Date received ack. letter: 23/02/2012
Date biometrics booking letter arrived: 22/03/2012
Date biometrics appointment: 03/04/2012
Date passport/docs received from HO: Waiting
Biometrics card received: Waiting
Visa Type : FLR(M) Spouse
Visa From: Fiancee


I'm in the same boat as you guys, groundhog day does exist!

As sponsor I requested my passport back on 20th August and that still hasn't turned up either.

Date applied: 13/02/2012
docs sent: 16/02/2012
Date application received by UKBA: 17/02/2012
Date received ack. letter: 27/02/2012
Date biometrics booking letter arrived: 19/03/2012
Date biometrics appointment: 22/03/2012
Date passport/docs received from HO: Waiting
Biometrics card received: Waiting
Visa Type : FLR(M) Spouse
Visa From: Fiancee
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stephanielqy
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My husband and I were discussing this last night - considering that the UKBA requires a current (no more than 3 months) passport photo, perhaps the people who have waited for months and months on end would expect a request for new photos before any decision is made?

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I'm in the same boat as you guys, groundhog day does exist!


The black hole seems less lonely now!
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nholler
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stephanielqy wrote:
My husband and I were discussing this last night - considering that the UKBA requires a current (no more than 3 months) passport photo, perhaps the people who have waited for months and months on end would expect a request for new photos before any decision is made?

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I'm in the same boat as you guys, groundhog day does exist!


The black hole seems less lonely now!


Considering the amount of outstanding applications they must have from the last 6 months, requesting new photos would only set them back further. However, trying to second guess the UKBA is impossible and can only lead to paranoia!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been lurking a while. As I now have some information, I thought I would share.

I just called the UKBA number to receive an update as my application is over 6 months old.

Once I provided my details, the response I received was [quote] "I am sorry your application is still awaiting a decision. I have been informed that there is a delay with these applications at the moment and it may take another couple of months to reach a decision"!

Ridiculous to say the least.

Anyway, here is my timeline to add to the list;

Date applied/docs sent: 20/02/2012
Date application received by UKBA: 21/02/2012
Date received ack. letter: 22/02/2012
Date biometrics booking letter arrived: 21/03/2012
Date biometrics appointment: 30/03/2012
Date passport/docs received from HO: Waiting
Biometrics card received: Waiting
Visa Type : FLR(M)
Visa From: Tier 5
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kuzey50
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello All,

We have received our documents today and the letter says our BRP should be delivered within 7 working days.

Here is our timeline;

Application sent: 02 March 2012
HO Received Docs: 05 March 2012
Biometrics Enrolled: 28 March 2012
Documents Received: 05 September 2012
BRP Received: Still waiting

It has been 6 months exactly today and our long and painful wait is now almost over. We had to get in touch with our MP twice. We also spoke to HO twice, sent additional documents and faxes to prove my grandfather's illness.

We hope everyone who has applied will receive their visas very soon and good luck to everyone. Thank you everyone on this forum for their help and support. We will be glad to help anyone on this and other forums who we may be able to help.

Thank you all once again.

Orhan & Gamze
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mrsclc78
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ako wrote:
I've been lurking a while. As I now have some information, I thought I would share.

I just called the UKBA number to receive an update as my application is over 6 months old.

Once I provided my details, the response I received was quote "I am sorry your application is still awaiting a decision. I have been informed that there is a delay with these applications at the moment and it may take another couple of months to reach a decision"!

Ridiculous to say the least.

Anyway, here is my timeline to add to the list;

Date applied/docs sent: 20/02/2012
Date application received by UKBA: 21/02/2012
Date received ack. letter: 22/02/2012
Date biometrics booking letter arrived: 21/03/2012
Date biometrics appointment: 30/03/2012
Date passport/docs received from HO: Waiting
Biometrics card received: Waiting
Visa Type : FLR(M)
Visa From: Tier 5


Another couple of MONTHS? Are they crazy?

I just found this FOI request today and it's some interesting reading. Apparently they're saying they have to send applications - after the bios have been done - to a "team" of people who can "validate" whether the correct forms have been used, correct fees paid (what does that take, 2 seconds?), correct documents sent, BEFORE it's even handed to a caseworker!

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/processing_times_for_flrm

And some people are getting their visas in a shorter amount of time than I've waited, which so far is "only" 11 weeks. So does that mean some teams and caseworkers are working faster, and some are taking their jolly old time?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is my timeline:

Date applied/docs sent: 04/07/2012
Date application received by UKBA: 05/07/2012
Dated ack. letter: 06/07/2012
Date received ack. letter: 11/07/2012
Date biometrics booking letter arrived: 05/09/2012
Biometrics booking letter dated: 03/09/2012
Date biometrics appointment: 05/09/2012
Date passport/docs received from HO: Waiting
Biometrics card received: Waiting
Visa Type : FLR(M) Spouse
Visa From: Tier 1 dependent
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karu123
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:20 am    Post subject: No Bio letter Reply with quote

MyWife got ack.letter dated 04/07/2012 and we are not yet received Biometric letter. i see many members got bio letter who got ack letter later than me..is there any reason for this ? is uba not issuing letter on date wise? any thoughts? My Time line below

Date applied/docs sent: 29/06/2012
Date application received by UKBA: 02/07/2012
Dated ack. letter: 04/07/2012
Date received ack. letter: 11/07/2012
Date biometrics booking letter arrived: 05/09/2012
Biometrics booking letter dated: 09/09/2012
Date biometrics appointment: Waiting
Date passport/docs received from HO: Waiting
Biometrics card received: Waiting
Visa Type : FLR(M) Spouse
Visa From: Tier 1 dependent


is any one here like same time line and still not recevied bio letter yet?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: No Bio letter Reply with quote

karu123 wrote:
i see many members got bio letter who got ack letter later than me..is there any reason for this ?


Don't panic.

Just imagine for a moment the huge task organising thousands of incoming applications in strict date order. If they did that, its likely the entire staff would be busy sorting mail rather than approving applications. I'm sure what they do is bundle the applications by months instead. The downside being that an application submitted on the 15th might well be dealt with before one submitted on the 2nd. But hopefully, all those in the bundle will get letters within a few days of each other or a week or two at max.

Looking at your dates, you submitted a few days before us but we've only just received our biometrics letter (5 days ago). That's well within the 8 day margin that 2nd class mail can 'sometimes' take to arrive. So its possible yours could still be in the post.

Also, people still seem to be receiving letters so clearly the UKBA are busy mailing them out. Be patient for a few days more. Chances are yours in on the way; and while you might be towards the back of the pack this time, its possible that in future you get your approval first and others around you are left waiting a few weeks longer.

John
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FLR(M) posted: 2/Jul/12
Receipt: 7/Jul/12
Payment: 9/Jul/12
Biometrics letter: 1/Sept/12
Biometrics submitted: 1/Sept/12
Passport/Docs: 19/Nov/12 (Dated 15/Nov)
Biometric Card: 20/Nov/12
Visa Type : FLR(M) Spouse
Visa From: Proposed CP
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anybody know what would happen in case one decides to withdrawn the application, and reapply using premium service?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:16 pm    Post subject: flr m Reply with quote

You will lose the application fee.
badger111 wrote:
Does anybody know what would happen in case one decides to withdrawn the application, and reapply using premium service?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:21 pm    Post subject: Re: waiting and waiting and waiting! Reply with quote

kshah wrote:
nholler wrote:
ken2mj wrote:
One of the things I often wonder is if the UKBA scrutinise certain applications more closely than others, based solely on the applicant's nationality. It might explain why some applications are processed in just a couple of months, while others are dragged out for six or more.



Hi Ken2mj, I've often wondered the same thing. My wife (applicant) is Canadian so I thought it would be a seamless process. A friend of mine applied for the FLR (M) in November 2011 and his wife is Chinese and their application took 5 weeks. However, this was before the Olympics excuse which has been floating around since the new year.

I requested my passport back last Monday 20th August in the hope it would kickstart my application. Still haven't received passport as of yet.


Hello Nholler,

Have you received your passport back ? I also applied for return of my passport, the same day as yourself, but have not received it yet ? People on this forum said they have received their passport within a week and i was expecting mine to come through this week, but it didn't, just wondered if you received yours ?

Regards


Hi kshah,

Have you received your passport back yet? Mine hasn't turned up.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="badger111"]Does anybody know what would happen in case one decides to withdrawn the application, and reapply using premium service?[/quote]

1. You will lose the fee, so would have to pay £867 again

2. You will need a completely new application (remember rules changed) and more documentation

3. If your case is not processed the same day (that is what happened to me) if it is for IT problems it could take up to a month if it is due to further documents required then it may be treated as postal despite having paid the "premium"
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:49 pm    Post subject: Re: waiting and waiting and waiting! Reply with quote

nholler wrote:
kshah wrote:
nholler wrote:
ken2mj wrote:
One of the things I often wonder is if the UKBA scrutinise certain applications more closely than others, based solely on the applicant's nationality. It might explain why some applications are processed in just a couple of months, while others are dragged out for six or more.



Hi Ken2mj, I've often wondered the same thing. My wife (applicant) is Canadian so I thought it would be a seamless process. A friend of mine applied for the FLR (M) in November 2011 and his wife is Chinese and their application took 5 weeks. However, this was before the Olympics excuse which has been floating around since the new year.

I requested my passport back last Monday 20th August in the hope it would kickstart my application. Still haven't received passport as of yet.


Hello Nholler,

Have you received your passport back ? I also applied for return of my passport, the same day as yourself, but have not received it yet ? People on this forum said they have received their passport within a week and i was expecting mine to come through this week, but it didn't, just wondered if you received yours ?

Regards


Hi kshah,

Have you received your passport back yet? Mine hasn't turned up.


Hi nholler,

not yet.. i don't know how much more time it will take.. yesterday just a random thought crossed my mind..what if I withdraw my wife FLR(M) application and apply for Personal Appointment.. can I do this and what would be her status in the country between withdrawing her application and getting an appointment ? Will her stay in UK during that period be considered legal ?

Do you know anything about it or have you ever given this a thought ?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems the process isnt getting any better. we thought once the Olympics are over (a big excuse) the processing time would pick up but from what i see here is quite the contrary.

This is just ridiculous i cannot believe it could take a civilized nation that long to issue a visa which i am entitled to and that too from a straight forward application. I dont know what to think anymore the whole process have just been so overwhelming. I lost a great job offer and might lose on the recent interviews i gave. I am a highly qualified professional and my skills are getting rusty as i cannot take on employment. I am losing money but most importantly losing time! thanks to UKBA.

Anyways ive been following this forum for past few months and it seems there is no pattern in their decision making. i see some people getting visas in 3 months, some of them got visas and they applied around the same time as i did, while others like me have to wait for ages. so i am really confused on how they process applications?? its definitely not first come first serve basis. perhaps they might be processing the application based on nationalities Confused

Applied: 16th April 2012
Biometrics done: 10th May 2012
For all other stuff: STILL WAITING !!! (5 months)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: waiting and waiting and waiting! Reply with quote

Hi kshah,

Do you know anything about it or have you ever given this a thought ?[/quote]

If her previous visa has expired then she has to leave the country immediately after withdrawing the application and cannot reapply inside UK.

I have been thinking that maybe we could apply on Premium Appointment without withdrawing the current application (so current visa is still valid) and give a letter saying you cannot provide the passport and previous visa because it is held in UKBA.
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