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carlyann
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I hope for everyone here already that the changes will not affect them. But it is of little comfort to the people who are due to submit their applications x
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m3y
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18k seems alot more fairer... although the extension of the probationary period to five years is still a worry
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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And,
| Quote: | | The Home Secretary will also extend the probationary period of a non-EU spouse from two years to five and announces rules to keep out elderly relatives of migrants who might require extensive NHS treatment. |
Unlike Guardian, Telegraph seems to be suggesting that the probationary period "will" increase to 5 years. And, Guardian did not comment about elderly relatives with likely high dependence on NHS.
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MWill
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| Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| sushdmehta wrote: | And,
| Quote: | | The Home Secretary will also extend the probationary period of a non-EU spouse from two years to five and announces rules to keep out elderly relatives of migrants who might require extensive NHS treatment. |
Unlike Guardian, Telegraph seems to be suggesting that the probationary period "will" increase to 5 years. And, Guardian did not comment about elderly relatives with likely high dependence on NHS. |
However, there's no mention of the truly terrifying Danish-style "attachment" requirement, which seems to have been quietly dropped.
I think the GuardiN article was speculation based on previous info, if you read it carefully. The Telegraph seem to have been given a leak. |
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sushdmehta
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| MWill wrote: | | there's no mention of the truly terrifying Danish-style "attachment" requirement, which seems to have been quietly dropped. |
But this one talks of "British values" tests ... in addition to new (read higher scores required) language tests.
| MWill wrote: | | The Telegraph seem to have been given a leak. |
Could be. As the article says:
| Quote: | | The tough new stance follows a lengthy campaign by this newspaper and aims to combat a rise in so-called “sham marriages” |
Also, the article suggests that the changes will be introduced next month - July!
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krs133
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| What does the Telegraph mean when it says people 'will no longer be able to extend a visa simply by being in a relationship'? What category would that apply to? |
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| krs133 wrote: | | What does the Telegraph mean when it says people 'will no longer be able to extend a visa simply by being in a relationship'? What category would that apply to? |
i think they are probably referring to the suggestion that the ukba is going to try to dictate to the courts how to interpret article 8 meaning a migrant won't be able to extend their leave on family life grounds if they don't otherwise meet the rules. I don't see how they are going to able to achieve this however. I think the attempts to limit the scope of article 8 will be open to the most challenges. |
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| Teresa May is on the Andrew Marr show right now stating that the figure is 18.6k, then 22k with a child, then additional 2.4k per extra child. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| and when does this change come into affect |
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m3y
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| BigEasy wrote: | | Teresa May is on the Andrew Marr show right now stating that the figure is 18.6k, then 22k with a child, then additional 2.4k per extra child. |
Was anything mentioned on any of the other policies?
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| m3y wrote: | | BigEasy wrote: | | Teresa May is on the Andrew Marr show right now stating that the figure is 18.6k, then 22k with a child, then additional 2.4k per extra child. |
Was anything mentioned on any of the other policies? |
The rest of the conversation was regarding changing article 8 - right to family life - but very much in terms of people with criminal records and people that are already in the UK resisting deportation.
Nothing with regard to the "attachment to the UK" thing and no time frame was clear, though it sounded like the changes would be implemented immediately.
She did mention higher level English requirements too. |
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Is there any indication if the extended 5 year probationary period will be applied to those already in the UK on a two year probation, or will it only effect new applicants?
The telegraph article mentioned an announcement tomorrow - will that be an update of the requirement on the UKBA website, do you think? |
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| PaulT wrote: | Is there any indication if the extended 5 year probationary period will be applied to those already in the UK on a two year probation, or will it only effect new applicants?
The telegraph article mentioned an announcement tomorrow - will that be an update of the requirement on the UKBA website, do you think? |
Damian Green has been indicating for about 6 months that anyone already here on a spouse visa would still be able to apply for ILR under the old rules - 2 years, no threshold, etc.
They do seem to have changed their minds on a lot of things at the last minute, like the level of the threshold, but the last-minute changes seem to be good rather tham bad. So let's hope it's still the case. If they don't it's incredibly unfair, as people already here would have to pay for an extra visa in order to extend to meet the 5 year requirement ... |
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Greenie
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| PaulT wrote: | Is there any indication if the extended 5 year probationary period will be applied to those already in the UK on a two year probation, or will it only effect new applicants?
The telegraph article mentioned an announcement tomorrow - will that be an update of the requirement on the UKBA website, do you think? |
They have to give at least 21 days notice of any changes to the immigration rules but if they follow the same procedure as they have with other recent major changes to
e.g. Tier 4 and work visas, i think they will probably release statement of policy first and the statement of changes afterwards. |
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PaulT
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| MWill wrote: | Damian Green has been indicating for about 6 months that anyone already here on a spouse visa would still be able to apply for ILR under the old rules - 2 years, no threshold, etc.
They do seem to have changed their minds on a lot of things at the last minute, like the level of the threshold, but the last-minute changes seem to be good rather tham bad. So let's hope it's still the case. If they don't it's incredibly unfair, as people already here would have to pay for an extra visa in order to extend to meet the 5 year requirement ... |
Hi, thanks for your reply. Does anyone know when they will finally release this information? It's been on the cards since the start if the year, but there is still no firm announcement from the Government about what the new requirements will actually be, and equally as important, when they will be introduced! |
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Greenie
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| You have just said yourself there will be an announcement tomorrow. I am sure everything will be clearer then. |
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krs133
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| Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| The paywalled Sunday Times article says the changes are coming in on 9 July. |
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