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absences from the UK

Post by muruks » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:28 am

Can anybody please tell me the answer to the following question includes day trip to Calais too [similar short trips]?

On form SET(O) - Version 04/2007

6 . 2
Since then have you had any absence(s) from the UK? If yes, give the dates of and reason(s) for the absences in the spaces below. List all absences, however short, including all of 3 months or more.

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Post by sunnyday » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:49 am

Even if you left the UK for a day and returned the next day, list it. List all your absences.

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Post by JAJ » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:35 am

sunnyday wrote:Even if you left the UK for a day and returned the next day, list it. List all your absences.
All absences should be listed, however as far as I understand only whole days absent from the UK count as an "absence" for the purpose of the residence requirement.

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Post by sunnyday » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:30 am

JAJ wrote:
sunnyday wrote:Even if you left the UK for a day and returned the next day, list it. List all your absences.
All absences should be listed, however as far as I understand only whole days absent from the UK count as an "absence" for the purpose of the residence requirement.
That's right.

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thanks

Post by muruks » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:20 am

sunnyday wrote:
JAJ wrote:
sunnyday wrote:Even if you left the UK for a day and returned the next day, list it. List all your absences.
All absences should be listed, however as far as I understand only whole days absent from the UK count as an "absence" for the purpose of the residence requirement.
That's right.
Thanks very much. I really appriciate all your inputs.

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Post by SYH » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:24 am

sunnyday wrote:Even if you left the UK for a day and returned the next day, list it. List all your absences.
That is not true
In this above example, it would NOT be an absence. You must be gone the full day for it to count as an absence.

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Post by John » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:37 am

SYH, I disagree with that. I think you are confusing two separate issues ..... whether leaving the UK one day and then returning the next counts as a day's absence .... day count would be zero ... and whether it needs to be listed on the SET(x) form?

At the very least it cannot do any harm listing it, but also it ensures that any BIA computer records tie in with the entries on the form.

That is if someone leaves the UK on say 01.06.07 and returns on 02.06.07, the BIA computer could well show the return on 02.06.07, and if the trip is missing from the form .... well it is something for BIA to query ... unnecessarily!
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Post by SYH » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:13 am

Interesting. I thought the theme was less was more and to not volunteer any more info than necessary. The section states list your absences, if HO defines absences as a whole day, I don't see why you would be obligated to list it but to each his own. In any case, I did explain it doesn't count as an absence.

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Post by John » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:58 am

SYH, appreciate that a Landing Card would have been completed by the non-EEA person on re-entering the UK, and the details on that card could well be on the BIA computer system.

So I don't think it is a question of giving less rather than more information. It is a case of ensuring that the information given (or not given) doesn't raise unnecessary queries.
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Post by SYH » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:24 pm

John wrote:SYH, appreciate that a Landing Card would have been completed by the non-EEA person on re-entering the UK, and the details on that card could well be on the BIA computer system.

So I don't think it is a question of giving less rather than more information. It is a case of ensuring that the information given (or not given) doesn't raise unnecessary queries.
That seems to me a totally different matter. You are talking about a tactic and strategy and I am talking about facts. In fact, it is accurate to fill out the form without listing the day of departure and and return as an absence. However, you think the application will be flagged if these days are not reported and that makes it an unnecessary risk. Both relate to the question but answer it differently.
And I unclear about the BIA computer, it lists your departures??
I thought they weren't monitoring border exits

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Post by John » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:52 pm

And I unclear about the BIA computer, it lists your departures??
I thought they weren't monitoring border exits
Exactly right, it doesn't ..... so continuing the example started earlier, the BIA computer might indicate entry into the UK on 02.06.07 .... but no record of exit ... so BIA wonders how long the person has been out of the UK.

Simply, why not tell them that information?
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Post by muruks » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:57 pm

John wrote:
And I unclear about the BIA computer, it lists your departures??
I thought they weren't monitoring border exits
Exactly right, it doesn't ..... so continuing the example started earlier, the BIA computer might indicate entry into the UK on 02.06.07 .... but no record of exit ... so BIA wonders how long the person has been out of the UK.

Simply, why not tell them that information?

Since I got a non europian passport, it gets stamped anywhere I go :lol:
If somebody (Probabily HO) is interested , arrival/depature dates can be found from the Passport.

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