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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Right » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:30 pm

I am an EEA national (Bulgaria) and starting to fill out the form. I have two practical (and maybe somewhat stupid) questions.

1. What document should I use for the 'current passport/travel document number' (1.2 of the form)?
I am travelling back to Bulgaria later this year and I plan to replace my passport then which obviously will be in the middle of the application. Should I use my ID card instead?

2. Do I have to put anything in the 'Reference numbers used in your immigration applications' (1.1 of the form)?
Before I got my EEA PR card, I have previously applied for a yellow and blue card. Should I include the Case IDs for those applications or put N/A here?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Right » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:03 pm

Right wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:30 pm
I am an EEA national (Bulgaria) and starting to fill out the form. I have two practical (and maybe somewhat stupid) questions.

1. What document should I use for the 'current passport/travel document number' (1.2 of the form)?
I am travelling back to Bulgaria later this year and I plan to replace my passport then which obviously will be in the middle of the application. Should I use my ID card instead?

2. Do I have to put anything in the 'Reference numbers used in your immigration applications' (1.1 of the form)?
Before I got my EEA PR card, I have previously applied for a yellow and blue card. Should I include the Case IDs for those applications or put N/A here?
And another general question which I just thought of (I could not edit the post, so pardon the double post). How much evidence do I need to submit for employment history? Do I need all my P60s and/or payslips?

I have found the booklet and/or guide (which is out of date) not as helpful as the PR card ones.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by mahasam » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:15 am

Right wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:03 pm
Right wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:30 pm
I am an EEA national (Bulgaria) and starting to fill out the form. I have two practical (and maybe somewhat stupid) questions.

1. What document should I use for the 'current passport/travel document number' (1.2 of the form)?
I am travelling back to Bulgaria later this year and I plan to replace my passport then which obviously will be in the middle of the application. Should I use my ID card instead?

2. Do I have to put anything in the 'Reference numbers used in your immigration applications' (1.1 of the form)?
Before I got my EEA PR card, I have previously applied for a yellow and blue card. Should I include the Case IDs for those applications or put N/A here?
And another general question which I just thought of (I could not edit the post, so pardon the double post). How much evidence do I need to submit for employment history? Do I need all my P60s and/or payslips?

I have found the booklet and/or guide (which is out of date) not as helpful as the PR card ones.
You need to submit an application with the ID/Passport you used to do LITUK/B1 with. Btw save your self the stress and use NCS, you will be able to keep all your originals hassle-free.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Right » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:37 pm

mahasam wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:15 am
You need to submit an application with the ID/Passport you used to do LITUK/B1 with. Btw save your self the stress and use NCS, you will be able to keep all your originals hassle-free.
That's quite useful information given that I have not seen guidance like that anywhere else. It seems like I might have to hold off replacing my passport in December then because it will invalidate the one with which I will apply for citizenship in the coming weeks.

Have you got a view on any of the other questions, especially evidence? What did you submit for yours?

Also, I have always planned to go through the NCS (I have two near me, one that has free appointments on a very short notice) and plan to do that and the passport form.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by mahasam » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:11 pm

Right wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:37 pm
mahasam wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:15 am
You need to submit an application with the ID/Passport you used to do LITUK/B1 with. Btw save your self the stress and use NCS, you will be able to keep all your originals hassle-free.
That's quite useful information given that I have not seen guidance like that anywhere else. It seems like I might have to hold off replacing my passport in December then because it will invalidate the one with which I will apply for citizenship in the coming weeks.

Have you got a view on any of the other questions, especially evidence? What did you submit for yours?

Also, I have always planned to go through the NCS (I have two near me, one that has free appointments on a very short notice) and plan to do that and the passport form.
Hello,

I am happy to share what I brought as an evidence:

2011-2017 p60s.
3 letters from previous employers(one was a very long employment till 2015, the second one and the third one were 2015-2016, 2016-2017) a contract from a new employer as I started like 2 days before the NCS appointment.
Degree.
LITUK.
DCPR.
Driving license.
Passport & EU ID (had LITUK done with ID, then brought passport just in case).

DCPR was done in 2012 so had to confirm previous 5 years.

I brought a ton of other rubbish like bank statements for the last 6 years both debit&credit card. Payslips for the last 6 years (lol), bills. Had a full backpack made for 17inch gaming laptop, probably 5-6 kgs :))). NCS guy said it was overkill so had to throw away most of that.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Right » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:38 pm

mahasam wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:11 pm
Right wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:37 pm
mahasam wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:15 am
You need to submit an application with the ID/Passport you used to do LITUK/B1 with. Btw save your self the stress and use NCS, you will be able to keep all your originals hassle-free.
That's quite useful information given that I have not seen guidance like that anywhere else. It seems like I might have to hold off replacing my passport in December then because it will invalidate the one with which I will apply for citizenship in the coming weeks.

Have you got a view on any of the other questions, especially evidence? What did you submit for yours?

Also, I have always planned to go through the NCS (I have two near me, one that has free appointments on a very short notice) and plan to do that and the passport form.
Hello,

I am happy to share what I brought as an evidence:

2011-2017 p60s.
3 letters from previous employers(one was a very long employment till 2015, the second one and the third one were 2015-2016, 2016-2017) a contract from a new employer as I started like 2 days before the NCS appointment.
Degree.
LITUK.
DCPR.
Driving license.
Passport & EU ID (had LITUK done with ID, then brought passport just in case).

DCPR was done in 2012 so had to confirm previous 5 years.

I brought a ton of other rubbish like bank statements for the last 6 years both debit&credit card. Payslips for the last 6 years (lol), bills. Had a full backpack made for 17inch gaming laptop, probably 5-6 kgs :))). NCS guy said it was overkill so had to throw away most of that.

Hope this helps.
Thanks a lot and I know the feeling exactly.

Sounds like you went there with all your DCPR evidence. I might do the same, because I went through the pain to gather the evidence, so I might as well bring it there to make sure I don't have to redo my NCS appointment. IIRC, my package for DCPR was >10 kg :D.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by mahasam » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:54 pm

Right wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:38 pm
mahasam wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:11 pm
Right wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:37 pm
mahasam wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:15 am
You need to submit an application with the ID/Passport you used to do LITUK/B1 with. Btw save your self the stress and use NCS, you will be able to keep all your originals hassle-free.
That's quite useful information given that I have not seen guidance like that anywhere else. It seems like I might have to hold off replacing my passport in December then because it will invalidate the one with which I will apply for citizenship in the coming weeks.

Have you got a view on any of the other questions, especially evidence? What did you submit for yours?

Also, I have always planned to go through the NCS (I have two near me, one that has free appointments on a very short notice) and plan to do that and the passport form.
Hello,

I am happy to share what I brought as an evidence:

2011-2017 p60s.
3 letters from previous employers(one was a very long employment till 2015, the second one and the third one were 2015-2016, 2016-2017) a contract from a new employer as I started like 2 days before the NCS appointment.
Degree.
LITUK.
DCPR.
Driving license.
Passport & EU ID (had LITUK done with ID, then brought passport just in case).

DCPR was done in 2012 so had to confirm previous 5 years.

I brought a ton of other rubbish like bank statements for the last 6 years both debit&credit card. Payslips for the last 6 years (lol), bills. Had a full backpack made for 17inch gaming laptop, probably 5-6 kgs :))). NCS guy said it was overkill so had to throw away most of that.

Hope this helps.
Thanks a lot and I know the feeling exactly.

Sounds like you went there with all your DCPR evidence. I might do the same, because I went through the pain to gather the evidence, so I might as well bring it there to make sure I don't have to redo my NCS appointment. IIRC, my package for DCPR was >10 kg :D.
Hi,

I just wanted to make it bulletproof and plus I may have a slight OCD :). I don't remember how thorough I was with my DCPR application but I was doing it not really caring for the outcome (I remember that for sure) back in 2012, thank god I got it when the form was no more 30 or 40 pages ;)).

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Tea_Rocket » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:45 pm

mahasam wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:54 pm
Right wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:38 pm
Thanks a lot and I know the feeling exactly.

Sounds like you went there with all your DCPR evidence. I might do the same, because I went through the pain to gather the evidence, so I might as well bring it there to make sure I don't have to redo my NCS appointment. IIRC, my package for DCPR was >10 kg :D.
Hi,

I just wanted to make it bulletproof and plus I may have a slight OCD :). I don't remember how thorough I was with my DCPR application but I was doing it not really caring for the outcome (I remember that for sure) back in 2012, thank god I got it when the form was no more 30 or 40 pages ;)).
I did something similar with both my NCS naturalisation appointment and when I went to apply for ILR. In both cases I brought an accordion folder stuffed to the gills with any and all documents related to my time in the UK. I'm non-EEA, so it was all especially unnecessary. My advice to people is always that they should err on the side of bringing documents they don't need than risk needing something they didn't bring.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by mahasam » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:34 am

Tea_Rocket wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:45 pm
mahasam wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:54 pm
Right wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:38 pm
Thanks a lot and I know the feeling exactly.

Sounds like you went there with all your DCPR evidence. I might do the same, because I went through the pain to gather the evidence, so I might as well bring it there to make sure I don't have to redo my NCS appointment. IIRC, my package for DCPR was >10 kg :D.
Hi,

I just wanted to make it bulletproof and plus I may have a slight OCD :). I don't remember how thorough I was with my DCPR application but I was doing it not really caring for the outcome (I remember that for sure) back in 2012, thank god I got it when the form was no more 30 or 40 pages ;)).
I did something similar with both my NCS naturalisation appointment and when I went to apply for ILR. In both cases I brought an accordion folder stuffed to the gills with any and all documents related to my time in the UK. I'm non-EEA, so it was all especially unnecessary. My advice to people is always that they should err on the side of bringing documents they don't need than risk needing something they didn't bring.
Hi,

I think those HO officers got really tired checking kgs of "evidence" :). At the same time we applicants wish to ensure that application is approved because it's not only time consuming but mentally draining process as well

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by tommmy » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:12 pm

Employment history

Hi Everyone,I need some help with AN form question 1.45 Details of your Employment.I have 2 current jobs but I can only give details about one in this section.Shall I give details about my second job on page 22 (this question on the form does not advise continuation but I think it should)?Do I need to mention my present jobs in question 1.50 or only the jobs I had in the past?
How accurate do I need to be when I give my absence at resident requirements 2.2?I know all my absence but I am aware of that sometimes on one or two occasions I arrived back to the UK after midnight instead of 21.00 or 22.00pm due to flight delay.Any contribution is welcome.Thanks

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by EEA National » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:39 am

tommmy wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:12 pm
Employment history

Hi Everyone,I need some help with AN form question 1.45 Details of your Employment.I have 2 current jobs but I can only give details about one in this section.Shall I give details about my second job on page 22 (this question on the form does not advise continuation but I think it should)?Do I need to mention my present jobs in question 1.50 or only the jobs I had in the past?
How accurate do I need to be when I give my absence at resident requirements 2.2?I know all my absence but I am aware of that sometimes on one or two occasions I arrived back to the UK after midnight instead of 21.00 or 22.00pm due to flight delay.Any contribution is welcome.Thanks
In 1.45 put your main job occupation
In 1.50 put all your work history in UK, if not enough space continue on page 22 and there you can give details for that second job you have at the moment
In 2.2 you need to ignore the day you left and the day you arrived back in th UK. Be as accurate as possible

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by tommmy » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:56 pm

Thanks for your answer EEA national truly appreciate it.I also have question about section "Details of your partner".I have marked that I have unmarried partner at 1.15 but I believe that I do not need to fill out my partner details since question asks:"Please provide here the details of your husband, wife or civil partner", nothing about unmarried partner but I am not sure.Thanks in advance

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:25 pm

tommmy wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:56 pm
Thanks for your answer EEA national truly appreciate it.I also have question about section "Details of your partner".I have marked that I have unmarried partner at 1.15 but I believe that I do not need to fill out my partner details since question asks:"Please provide here the details of your husband, wife or civil partner", nothing about unmarried partner but I am not sure.Thanks in advance
Correct - if you are not married or civil partner then not required.
This is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.
Please do not send me private messages asking for advice.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Anamin86 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:51 pm

Hello,
I need some help.
Should I fill details of my ex boyfriend and current boyfriend?
I used to live with ex boyfriend and now I live with my new boyfriend.
Should I clarify them as a partners in AN form?
I nevere registered partnerships with register office.

Thank you

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:54 am

Anamin86 wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:51 pm
Hello,
I need some help.
Should I fill details of my ex boyfriend and current boyfriend?
I used to live with ex boyfriend and now I live with my new boyfriend.
Should I clarify them as a partners in AN form?
I nevere registered partnerships with register office.

Thank you
NO to both your questions.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Anamin86 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:37 am

Thank you for previous answer.
I am not sure about the following:
1.3 which date I should write?
I am from Lithuania, came in 13/05/2010
At that time I applied for Home Office, and home office reference number I wrote to 1.1 questions.
Should I write 13/05/2010 or date when I received Home Office.

3. Good character requirement.
In the form they ask include the parking tickets. Should I do? If tickets have been issued for car registration number, without my name on it?
And if yes, should I write them in the "Details of judgment or civil penLty 2"?

Thank you

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by ubamor01 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:27 pm

Hi there

I am about to fill in the form and I have some queries regarding employment history for 10 years.

I've worked for about 7 years in 3 jobs mainly but I've had endless and countless smaller jobs which I have paid tax on and made contributions on.

Do I really need to list all of them?

For my permanent residence application I only listed these main 3, and I supplied P60s and payslips for these 3 jobs only.

Thank you!

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by EEA National » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:39 pm

Anamin86 wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:37 am
Thank you for previous answer.
I am not sure about the following:
1.3 which date I should write?
Which section is that?What is the question?
I am from Lithuania, came in 13/05/2010
At that time I applied for Home Office, and home office reference number I wrote to 1.1 questions.
Should I write 13/05/2010 or date when I received Home Office.

3. Good character requirement.
In the form they ask include the parking tickets. Should I do? If tickets have been issued for car registration number, without my name on it?
If not on your name, why consider mention it?
And if yes, should I write them in the "Details of judgment or civil penLty 2"?

Thank you

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Anamin86 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:20 pm

Anamin86 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:37 am
Thank you for previous answer.

The section - personal information. The question 1.3 ( 3rd question on the page 3)
I am not sure about the following:
1.3 which date I should write?
Which section is that?What is the question?
I am from Lithuania, came in 13/05/2010
At that time I applied for Home Office, and home office reference number I wrote to 1.1 questions.
Should I write 13/05/2010 or date when I received Home Office.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by EEA National » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:48 am

Anamin86 wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:20 pm
Anamin86 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:37 am
Thank you for previous answer.

The section - personal information. The question 1.3 ( 3rd question on the page 3)
I am not sure about the following:
1.3 which date I should write?
Which section is that?What is the question?
I am from Lithuania, came in 13/05/2010
At that time I applied for Home Office, and home office reference number I wrote to 1.1 questions.
Should I write 13/05/2010 or date when I received Home Office.
You are EEA National, so you put nothing.You acquired permanent residence after 5 years of exercising treaty rights. If you are applying for naturalization you should have the document already

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by EEA National » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:52 am

ubamor01 wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:27 pm
Hi there

I am about to fill in the form and I have some queries regarding employment history for 10 years.

I've worked for about 7 years in 3 jobs mainly but I've had endless and countless smaller jobs which I have paid tax on and made contributions on.

Do I really need to list all of them?

For my permanent residence application I only listed these main 3, and I supplied P60s and payslips for these 3 jobs only.

Thank you!
More accurate you are the better. Don't mix permanent residence with naturalization, they are completely different and you really want to make success of it the first time as the fee is quite hefty.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Anamin86 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:01 pm

Thank you very much for your help!!!

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by ubamor01 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:06 am

EEA National wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:52 am
ubamor01 wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:27 pm
Hi there

I am about to fill in the form and I have some queries regarding employment history for 10 years.

I've worked for about 7 years in 3 jobs mainly but I've had endless and countless smaller jobs which I have paid tax on and made contributions on.

Do I really need to list all of them?

For my permanent residence application I only listed these main 3, and I supplied P60s and payslips for these 3 jobs only.

Thank you!
More accurate you are the better. Don't mix permanent residence with naturalization, they are completely different and you really want to make success of it the first time as the fee is quite hefty.
Thanks for the help. So for example, I did a street funding job for literally 3 shifts, would that go on the list, in your opinion?
Now I realise you may respond "if you are aware of it, why wouldn't you put it down" - my point is there are dozens of others like this that I don't remember or have no information on, and my thinking is that I either put them all down (near to impossible) or none at all!

Thanks again

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by EEA National » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:37 pm

Hello

In that case it may be easier if you get yourself a Employment history record for so you can just put what is in there in the form and in a cover letter add the information that you have been in small Street jobs and you don't recall the details or have any preserved evidence
Request Employment history from here https://www.gov.uk/get-proof-employment-history
As long as I remember up to 2012 you can request by email and prior that you need to phone them and request via phone
Also in addition sending that document along with rest of proof documents may help case worker make decision.
I sent mine along with rest of documents to make sure what information they hold for me is what I think it was according to me, so I avoid being blamed in false information

Good luck

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Right » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:40 pm

A very stupid question. Who is supposed to fill out the name right at the beginning of section 5 (before 5.1). I assume it is me but wanted to double-check in case it is different.

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