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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Tmuch » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:19 pm

Hello guys
Sorry to bother you all, am just worried as I came in the uk in Nov 2013, and the family reunion visa we were on expired but could still work and study while waiting for the new visa. We then got ILTR in June 2014.

My question is when do my 5 years start. Is it November that I got here or June when we got Indefinite.

Thank you so much.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:44 am

Tmuch wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:19 pm
Hello guys
Sorry to bother you all, am just worried as I came in the uk in Nov 2013, and the family reunion visa we were on expired but could still work and study while waiting for the new visa. We then got ILTR in June 2014.

My question is when do my 5 years start. Is it November that I got here or June when we got Indefinite.

Thank you so much.
Starts June 2014, when you received ILR and were free from immigration restrictions.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Daisy99 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:12 am

Hi,
I am filling form,I have registered refrees informations.I wanted to print it for their signatures but there is no signature part.Can you help me,please?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Itengineer2004 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:12 am

Hi
I am filling in the form for my wife's Naturalization application as spouse of British Citizen. I have a few questions if anyone can help.
  • I got my British citizenship in June 2016 and she has received her ILR on the 4/4/2019. Can I apply now straightaway for her naturalization or do we need to wait for 12 months.

    I have filled in the form online (Form AN) and would be using the new service for the application. But it has not asked for my information in the form. Its a bit confusing as the category is for spouse of British citizen and its not asking for any of my information ? is it me being paranoid or is this the correct form.

    I have used the following links to get to the form
    https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-sp ... w-to-apply
    https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onality-an
I believe we do not need any photographs signed for this as the bio-metrics will be done at one of the new center.
Lastly the referee information where are the referee supposed to sign.
Regards

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:37 am

Itengineer2004 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:12 am
Hi
I am filling in the form for my wife's Naturalization application as spouse of British Citizen. I have a few questions if anyone can help.
  • I got my British citizenship in June 2016 and she has received her ILR on the 4/4/2019. Can I apply now straightaway for her naturalization or do we need to wait for 12 months. She can apply now if she meets the 3 years residence requirement etc.

    I have filled in the form online (Form AN) and would be using the new service for the application. But it has not asked for my information in the form. Its a bit confusing as the category is for spouse of British citizen and its not asking for any of my information ? is it me being paranoid or is this the correct form. You are being paranoid. It surely does however ask if married and spouses name etc.

    I have used the following links to get to the form
    https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-sp ... w-to-apply
    https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onality-an
I believe we do not need any photographs signed for this as the bio-metrics will be done at one of the new center. You need photos for the referee page.

Lastly the referee information where are the referee supposed to sign.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Itengineer2004 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:57 am

CR001 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:37 am
Itengineer2004 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:12 am
Hi
I am filling in the form for my wife's Naturalization application as spouse of British Citizen. I have a few questions if anyone can help.
  • I got my British citizenship in June 2016 and she has received her ILR on the 4/4/2019. Can I apply now straightaway for her naturalization or do we need to wait for 12 months. She can apply now if she meets the 3 years residence requirement etc.

    I have filled in the form online (Form AN) and would be using the new service for the application. But it has not asked for my information in the form. Its a bit confusing as the category is for spouse of British citizen and its not asking for any of my information ? is it me being paranoid or is this the correct form. You are being paranoid. It surely does however ask if married and spouses name etc.

    I have used the following links to get to the form
    https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-sp ... w-to-apply
    https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onality-an
I believe we do not need any photographs signed for this as the bio-metrics will be done at one of the new center. You need photos for the referee page.

Lastly the referee information where are the referee supposed to sign.
Regards
Thanks CR001 This is very helpful

one more clarification , is the answer for the following question yes (since I am a British citizen and she has ILR )
Are you either:
An EEA national who has been issued with a permanent residence document
A family member of an EEA national who has been issued with a permanent residence card

And for the citizenship certificate reference number should i just enter my passport number as i am not sure i have the certificate reference number (i do have the letter that had home office reference number)

Regards

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:00 pm

Itengineer2004 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:57 am
CR001 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:37 am
Itengineer2004 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:12 am
Hi
I am filling in the form for my wife's Naturalization application as spouse of British Citizen. I have a few questions if anyone can help.
  • I got my British citizenship in June 2016 and she has received her ILR on the 4/4/2019. Can I apply now straightaway for her naturalization or do we need to wait for 12 months. She can apply now if she meets the 3 years residence requirement etc.

    I have filled in the form online (Form AN) and would be using the new service for the application. But it has not asked for my information in the form. Its a bit confusing as the category is for spouse of British citizen and its not asking for any of my information ? is it me being paranoid or is this the correct form. You are being paranoid. It surely does however ask if married and spouses name etc.

    I have used the following links to get to the form
    https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-sp ... w-to-apply
    https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onality-an
I believe we do not need any photographs signed for this as the bio-metrics will be done at one of the new center. You need photos for the referee page.

Lastly the referee information where are the referee supposed to sign.
Regards
Thanks CR001 This is very helpful

one more clarification , is the answer for the following question yes (since I am a British citizen and she has ILR )
Are you either:
An EEA national who has been issued with a permanent residence document
A family member of an EEA national who has been issued with a permanent residence card

And for the citizenship certificate reference number should i just enter my passport number as i am not sure i have the certificate reference number (i do have the letter that had home office reference number)

Regards
1. The answer is NO as you are not an EU citizen for this application purpose and presumably your spouse followed the UK immigration path to ILR.

2. You need to put the certificate number if the form asks for it. It is on your naturalisation certificate.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Anuszka » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:41 pm

Hi lovely people,
Thank you so much for such an informative forum.
I have read introduction on this forum and I hope I am writing in the right place.

1. I am applying for British citizenship through naturalisation (AN). I would like to do it by filling in new online application form....BUT I would rather post all of documents (as I have almost 100 pages). I have got Passport and ID so it easier for me this way, without another appointment in Service Centre. I have phoned Home Office helpline today and I have been told that in the end of application the system will tell me what to do with documents. Home Office servant could not tell me if there are always two options (visit in the Citizenship Application Services centre
or post office). Could you please tell me what was your recent experience in this matter?

2. And the second question. If I am able to send documents by post, do I need only printed photo or digital as well?
Thank you so much for your help.
Best wishes,
Anna

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:04 pm

Anuszka wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:41 pm
Hi lovely people,
Thank you so much for such an informative forum.
I have read introduction on this forum and I hope I am writing in the right place.

1. I am applying for British citizenship through naturalisation (AN). I would like to do it by filling in new online application form....BUT I would rather post all of documents (as I have almost 100 pages). I have got Passport and ID so it easier for me this way, without another appointment in Service Centre. I have phoned Home Office helpline today and I have been told that in the end of application the system will tell me what to do with documents. Home Office servant could not tell me if there are always two options (visit in the Citizenship Application Services centre
or post office). Could you please tell me what was your recent experience in this matter?

2. And the second question. If I am able to send documents by post, do I need only printed photo or digital as well?
Thank you so much for your help.
Best wishes,
Anna
Why do you need to send 100 pages - AN is a simple application and you only need to provide the documents which are required. If I recall correctly my documents came to about 12 pages. Online is now the option with biometrics done at UKVCAS.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... n-guidance
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Anuszka » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:29 am

alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:04 pm
Why do you need to send 100 pages - AN is a simple application and you only need to provide the documents which are required. If I recall correctly my documents came to about 12 pages. Online is now the option with biometrics done at UKVCAS.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... n-guidance
Thank you for the link but I have read the guidance already and I did not find answers on the questions which I asked in my first post.
And yes, unfortunately I need to scan my weekly payslips from ages ago when I got my WRS card...
I just would like to know if there is option in the end of online application that I can choose from: sending documents by post or I need to do everything online...

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:59 pm

Anuszka wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:29 am
alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:04 pm
Why do you need to send 100 pages - AN is a simple application and you only need to provide the documents which are required. If I recall correctly my documents came to about 12 pages. Online is now the option with biometrics done at UKVCAS.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... n-guidance
Thank you for the link but I have read the guidance already and I did not find answers on the questions which I asked in my first post.
And yes, unfortunately I need to scan my weekly payslips from ages ago when I got my WRS card...
I just would like to know if there is option in the end of online application that I can choose from: sending documents by post or I need to do everything online...
There is no requirement to send payslips. You can simply send all your P60s for the last 5 years. Citizenship is based on the last 5 years only. For employment, you simply need to list them in the form.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Hamada1981 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:59 pm

Hello guys
I need your help with completing the online form for naturalisation [long residence + ILR obtained 3 years ago].
The section for previous applications submitted to UKVI is a nightmare for me. I had 6 previous application and I can give the dates of the start and expire of each visa. However, I cannot remember the dates of submission, biometrics taken or the reference number of each application which the forms mainly asks for. How could this be sorted out? If I write the details of the last two applications only and say no other applications this will not be accurate. What do think?

And for the passport. I have a flight scheduled in July. Am I able to keep my residence card and current passport? And do I need to scan the blank pages of my current and previous passports?

As for the British passport with the new online system, can we still apply for a passport along with the naturalisation application?

Thank you in advance for your help.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Sedi007 » Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:57 pm

CR001 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:00 pm
Itengineer2004 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:57 am
CR001 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:37 am
Itengineer2004 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:12 am
Hi
I am filling in the form for my wife's Naturalization application as spouse of British Citizen. I have a few questions if anyone can help.
  • I got my British citizenship in June 2016 and she has received her ILR on the 4/4/2019. Can I apply now straightaway for her naturalization or do we need to wait for 12 months. She can apply now if she meets the 3 years residence requirement etc.

    I have filled in the form online (Form AN) and would be using the new service for the application. But it has not asked for my information in the form. Its a bit confusing as the category is for spouse of British citizen and its not asking for any of my information ? is it me being paranoid or is this the correct form. You are being paranoid. It surely does however ask if married and spouses name etc.

    I have used the following links to get to the form
    https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-sp ... w-to-apply
    https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... onality-an
I believe we do not need any photographs signed for this as the bio-metrics will be done at one of the new center. You need photos for the referee page.

Lastly the referee information where are the referee supposed to sign.
Regards
Thanks CR001 This is very helpful

one more clarification , is the answer for the following question yes (since I am a British citizen and she has ILR )
Are you either:
An EEA national who has been issued with a permanent residence document
A family member of an EEA national who has been issued with a permanent residence card

And for the citizenship certificate reference number should i just enter my passport number as i am not sure i have the certificate reference number (i do have the letter that had home office reference number)

Regards
1. The answer is NO as you are not an EU citizen for this application purpose and presumably your spouse followed the UK immigration path to ILR.

2. You need to put the certificate number if the form asks for it. It is on your naturalisation certificate.
Hi CR001,

I applied for naturalization last week and I have mistakenly answered Yes to this question
Are you either:
An EEA national who has been issued with a permanent residence document
A family member of an EEA national who has been issued with a permanent residence card

My spouse is a British citizen and not a EU citizen. And I applied on basis of ILR 3 years route. Can you please shed some light if they'll be able to understand that this is just a mistake and by looking at my spouse passport, certificate of naturalization and my ILR BRP they'll be satisfied or should I contact them now to get this corrected somehow?

Thanks.
SH

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by kajis » Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:24 pm

Hi Members and Mods;
I submitted my naturalisation application, now i have to upload my documents. i downloaded documents check list. I realise while i was filling the form i mistakenly tick the box or misunderstand that item says; ''Freedom of immigration time restriction''. and they mentioned that if you do not submit any of the documents which you agreed to submit your application will be refused.
My question is, freedom of immigration time restriction and the ILR is same?? is it ok to submit ILR will it be enough? as i tick the ILR box as well.

Please advise me if its not then what i have to do as fees has been deducted. do i need to submit another application, as it says some where i read that if you required any amendment you need to fill new application.
then what will happened to the fees they already took?

Vinney CR001 please give me some advise.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by kajis » Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:36 pm

this is what i reieved a check list
'' Evidence
You should use your supporting documents checklist as a guide to what documents you need to self-upload or
take to your appointment.
You have agreed to include the following documents in your application. Tick the box beside each document to
confirm that you are providing it.

1. The passport issued by your country for Mr xyz
2. Mr xyz's Life in the UK Test pass notification
3. Proof of living in the UK for Mr xyz
4. Mr xyz's proof of freedom from immigration time restrictions
5. Two referee declarations for Mr xyz
6. Mr xyz's evidence of identity
7. Current Biometric Residence Permit for Mr xyz ''

is item no. 4 & 7 are same?
thanks

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:25 pm

kajis wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:36 pm
this is what i reieved a check list
'' Evidence
You should use your supporting documents checklist as a guide to what documents you need to self-upload or
take to your appointment.
You have agreed to include the following documents in your application. Tick the box beside each document to
confirm that you are providing it.

1. The passport issued by your country for Mr xyz
2. Mr xyz's Life in the UK Test pass notification
3. Proof of living in the UK for Mr xyz
4. Mr xyz's proof of freedom from immigration time restrictions
5. Two referee declarations for Mr xyz
6. Mr xyz's evidence of identity
7. Current Biometric Residence Permit for Mr xyz ''

is item no. 4 & 7 are same?
thanks
Yes - 4 and 7 are the same document.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Anuszka » Thu May 23, 2019 12:09 pm

CR001 wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:59 pm
There is no requirement to send payslips. You can simply send all your P60s for the last 5 years. Citizenship is based on the last 5 years only. For employment, you simply need to list them in the form.
Thank you. When I applied for PR card I had to supply my WRS card plus P60s to prove I was working for one year after I received this card... Weirdly I did not have one P60 and I had to send all of my weekly payslips instead... Luckily I had all of 52! That is the reason I am worry that I had to scan those payslips...

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Sdhawan » Tue May 28, 2019 10:27 am

Thank you.
[/quote]
1. Your application is based on the 3 years residence immediately preceding the date of application. You only need your UK addresses.
Question: You mentioned I only need UK address, but I have not been in UK for 5 years yet (2 months short) and it does ask, if you have stayed at the property for 5 years. I understand only 3 years residence is considered, but these 5 years should only be a UK address or I can put India address too? This ques is very contradictory in the form, asking about 5 years.

2. No. Absence AFTER date of application is irrelevant. Note that HO can write to you for information or to send documents. Be mindful of this.
Question: What kind of information they could ask and what documents would be required, to ensure I keep them all ready. Would it be related to travel history - like boarding passed or anything like that? It's a business trip, so a letter from HR would be required?

Thank you so much CR001. You have been very helpful.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Tue May 28, 2019 12:53 pm

Sdhawan wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 10:27 am
1. Your application is based on the 3 years residence immediately preceding the date of application. You only need your UK addresses.
Question: You mentioned I only need UK address, but I have not been in UK for 5 years yet (2 months short) and it does ask, if you have stayed at the property for 5 years. I understand only 3 years residence is considered, but these 5 years should only be a UK address or I can put India address too? This ques is very contradictory in the form, asking about 5 years.
2. No. Absence AFTER date of application is irrelevant. Note that HO can write to you for information or to send documents. Be mindful of this.
Question: What kind of information they could ask and what documents would be required, to ensure I keep them all ready. Would it be related to travel history - like boarding passed or anything like that? It's a business trip, so a letter from HR would be required.
1. If you are applying on the basis of marriage to a British citizen, which presumably you are as you only recently got ILR, then your application is based on 3 years residence. Simply state your addresses since coming to the UK. Don't overthink things. The same form is used for all naturalisation routes.

1. They could ask for your original passport or supporting documents. HO are not interested in boarding passes or employer letters for your route to citizenship.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Sdhawan » Tue May 28, 2019 1:18 pm

Thank you very very much :)

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by hereorthere » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:38 pm

Hi,

I am filling out the online form AN for naturalisation and am very confused about the questions around English language requirements.

I am Canadian and therefore exempt from proving my English language skills. However the form still asks me whether I have a degree taught in English and how I am going to prove my degree (degree certificate or transcript). Since I do have a degree taught in English, I need to answer yes here, even though the form should not ask me this question (as I am exempt from proving my English skills).

Furthermore, when I get to the documents list, I am requested to produce :

-"The official transcript or letter for X to prove the level of English language required"

-"NARIC letter that confirms the qualification meets or exceeds the recognised standard of a Bachelor's or Masters degree or PhD in the UK AND confirm the level of English to which the degree was taught or researched"

AND

-"The Canada passport, identity card or official letter for X to prove the level of English language required"

Lastly, at the bottom of the list, it reads "You do not need to provide further evidence of your level of English because you are a national of Canada".

So in the end do I need to provide the transcript and NARIC letter or not?? This is super unclear.

Any help would be appreciated! Thanks

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:18 pm

hereorthere wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:38 pm
Hi,

I am filling out the online form AN for naturalisation and am very confused about the questions around English language requirements.

I am Canadian and therefore exempt from proving my English language skills. However the form still asks me whether I have a degree taught in English and how I am going to prove my degree (degree certificate or transcript). Since I do have a degree taught in English, I need to answer yes here, even though the form should not ask me this question (as I am exempt from proving my English skills).

Furthermore, when I get to the documents list, I am requested to produce :

-"The official transcript or letter for X to prove the level of English language required"

-"NARIC letter that confirms the qualification meets or exceeds the recognised standard of a Bachelor's or Masters degree or PhD in the UK AND confirm the level of English to which the degree was taught or researched"

AND

-"The Canada passport, identity card or official letter for X to prove the level of English language required"

Lastly, at the bottom of the list, it reads "You do not need to provide further evidence of your level of English because you are a national of Canada".

So in the end do I need to provide the transcript and NARIC letter or not?? This is super unclear.

Any help would be appreciated! Thanks
Tick NO to degree and English test!! The question is ONLY related to meeting the English requirement and not ho simply wanting to know if you hold a degree.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by hereorthere » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:48 am

Ok thank you for the advice. However you would think that they would make it possible not to have to lie on the form!!

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:09 am

hereorthere wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:48 am
Ok thank you for the advice. However you would think that they would make it possible not to have to lie on the form!!
You are not lying. You simply ignore the English related questions if you are exempt and answer no.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Rubyduchess » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:27 pm

Hello
My 13 year old daughter and I are applying for naturalization in few weeks. I have filled out the form and on the list of documents to provide, they have put a letter of consent from the legal guardian(s) or parent(s) of the child.

Can I write said letter by myself as I am the parent even though I am applying at the same time as she is? I honestly would not want her father to be a part of this process even though his name is on the birth certificate. Please advice.

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