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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by on_the_contrary » Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:32 pm

Hi, I have been reading this forum for a while, it's super useful!

I'm applying for naturalization with the ILR under the EU Settlement scheme. However, my documents checklist says:
proof of Nationality. You must include your:
- passport or EEA national identity card
- UK permanent residence card
- evidence of freedom from immigration time restrictions
You must have a permanent residence card before you can apply for citizenship


this seems confusing, as I don't have a permanent residence card. Any ideas if it's ok to include the ILR reference number instead? Or am I filling a wrong form?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by londuk1 » Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:10 pm

on_the_contrary wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:32 pm
Hi, I have been reading this forum for a while, it's super useful!

I'm applying for naturalization with the ILR under the EU Settlement scheme. However, my documents checklist says:
proof of Nationality. You must include your:
- passport or EEA national identity card
- UK permanent residence card
- evidence of freedom from immigration time restrictions
You must have a permanent residence card before you can apply for citizenship


this seems confusing, as I don't have a permanent residence card. Any ideas if it's ok to include the ILR reference number instead? Or am I filling a wrong form?
you just need to upload your passport and EU Settlement letter although they will be able to view your status with the reference code you need to fill in the application.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by curious_man » Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:35 am

Hi Everyone,

I'm planning to submit my Citizenship application in mid July. However due to Corona, my employment is sadly coming to an end on the 30th of June. I've been in the country for 12 years, studying and full time employment of 6 years, so I have fulfilled the qualifying period required. However if I have a two week or so unemployment stint before I submit my application could that be a problem? If so does anyone have suggestions how to overcome it?

Also, I don't know exact date I arrived 12 years ago, I only know the month. I might be able to dig deeper if I have to but is it important to know it down to the date?

Thanks,
Curious man

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:06 pm

curious_man wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:35 am
Hi Everyone,

I'm planning to submit my Citizenship application in mid July. However due to Corona, my employment is sadly coming to an end on the 30th of June. I've been in the country for 12 years, studying and full time employment of 6 years, so I have fulfilled the qualifying period required. However if I have a two week or so unemployment stint before I submit my application could that be a problem? If so does anyone have suggestions how to overcome it?

Also, I don't know exact date I arrived 12 years ago, I only know the month. I might be able to dig deeper if I have to but is it important to know it down to the date?

Thanks,
Curious man
Employment is not a requirement for naturalisation, just declare periods of unemployment as applicable - you don't have to justify that.
Where dates are asked for and you don't have it precisely use the nearest estimate - month/year is ok.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Nikamo » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:15 pm

Hi Everyone,

Stupid question, when I upload my passport scan, do I have to scan ALL pages?

Thanks,
Monika

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:12 pm

Nikamo wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:15 pm
Hi Everyone,

Stupid question, when I upload my passport scan, do I have to scan ALL pages?

Thanks,
Monika
A question that comes up regularly ....

Scan the biometrics and any stamped pages.
For a German passport I would also include pages 1+2 with the official entries (height, etc).
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by mike20 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:28 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:06 pm

Employment is not a requirement for naturalisation, just declare periods of unemployment as applicable - you don't have to justify that.
Where dates are asked for and you don't have it precisely use the nearest estimate - month/year is ok.
Doesn't this contradict the capacity which you're in the UK as (worker, self-sufficient, student, etc.)? Or for short period of times, it is considered to be okay?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:37 pm

mike20 wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:28 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:06 pm

Employment is not a requirement for naturalisation, just declare periods of unemployment as applicable - you don't have to justify that.
Where dates are asked for and you don't have it precisely use the nearest estimate - month/year is ok.
Doesn't this contradict the capacity which you're in the UK as (worker, self-sufficient, student, etc.)? Or for short period of times, it is considered to be okay?
Being in employment at present or in the past is not a mandatory requirement for citizenship.

Many who applied have been on dependent visas and never worked in the UK and had success.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by shyamal017 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:42 am

hi all
i am really confuse about one section in the application form..regarding previous immigration history..

Have you previously made any other UK immigration application in the UK or abroad? - Yes

Name in which you made the application - ?????

are they asking for name of the applicant or type of the application made previously..(tier-1 ,tier-2 ,tier 4 etc)

thanks

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:21 am

shyamal017 wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:42 am
hi all
i am really confuse about one section in the application form..regarding previous immigration history..

Have you previously made any other UK immigration application in the UK or abroad? - Yes

Name in which you made the application - ?????

are they asking for name of the applicant or type of the application made previously..(tier-1 ,tier-2 ,tier 4 etc)

thanks
Your name. Although you already appear to have applied in may based on your previous posts.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by mike20 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:10 pm

CR001 wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:37 pm
mike20 wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:28 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:06 pm

Employment is not a requirement for naturalisation, just declare periods of unemployment as applicable - you don't have to justify that.
Where dates are asked for and you don't have it precisely use the nearest estimate - month/year is ok.
Doesn't this contradict the capacity which you're in the UK as (worker, self-sufficient, student, etc.)? Or for short period of times, it is considered to be okay?
Being in employment at present or in the past is not a mandatory requirement for citizenship.

Many who applied have been on dependent visas and never worked in the UK and had success.
Ah I see. Just to understand this though, for EEA nationals who do not obtain visas, what does it mean? Can they still declare that they are in the UK as workers?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:13 pm

mike20 wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:10 pm
CR001 wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:37 pm
mike20 wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:28 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:06 pm

Employment is not a requirement for naturalisation, just declare periods of unemployment as applicable - you don't have to justify that.
Where dates are asked for and you don't have it precisely use the nearest estimate - month/year is ok.
Doesn't this contradict the capacity which you're in the UK as (worker, self-sufficient, student, etc.)? Or for short period of times, it is considered to be okay?
Being in employment at present or in the past is not a mandatory requirement for citizenship.

Many who applied have been on dependent visas and never worked in the UK and had success.
Ah I see. Just to understand this though, for EEA nationals who do not obtain visas, what does it mean? Can they still declare that they are in the UK as workers?
There are additional evidence requirements for EU citizens and family when applying for citizenship, depending on their circumstances, to prove residence for the whole 5 years.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by shyamal017 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:20 pm

CR001 wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:21 am
shyamal017 wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:42 am
hi all
i am really confuse about one section in the application form..regarding previous immigration history..

Have you previously made any other UK immigration application in the UK or abroad? - Yes

Name in which you made the application - ?????

are they asking for name of the applicant or type of the application made previously..(tier-1 ,tier-2 ,tier 4 etc)

thanks
Your name. Although you already appear to have applied in may based on your previous posts.
thanks for you reply CR001..on my application i mentioned visa type..do i need to write cover letter with details???
yes i did post on biometric section...

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:23 pm

shyamal017 wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:20 pm
CR001 wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:21 am
shyamal017 wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:42 am
hi all
i am really confuse about one section in the application form..regarding previous immigration history..

Have you previously made any other UK immigration application in the UK or abroad? - Yes

Name in which you made the application - ?????

are they asking for name of the applicant or type of the application made previously..(tier-1 ,tier-2 ,tier 4 etc)

thanks
Your name. Although you already appear to have applied in may based on your previous posts.
thanks for you reply CR001..on my application i mentioned visa type..do i need to write cover letter with details???
yes i did post on biometric section...
No need. It is not a point that will result in a refusal.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by shyamal017 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:40 pm

CR001 wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:23 pm
shyamal017 wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:20 pm
CR001 wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:21 am
shyamal017 wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:42 am
hi all
i am really confuse about one section in the application form..regarding previous immigration history..

Have you previously made any other UK immigration application in the UK or abroad? - Yes

Name in which you made the application - ?????

are they asking for name of the applicant or type of the application made previously..(tier-1 ,tier-2 ,tier 4 etc)

thanks
Your name. Although you already appear to have applied in may based on your previous posts.
thanks for you reply CR001..on my application i mentioned visa type..do i need to write cover letter with details???
yes i did post on biometric section...
No need. It is not a point that will result in a refusal.
Thanks for your Reply CR001 ..By mistake i only submitted my last immigration entry not all..shall i write a cover letter with all previous history??or wait for them to ask for it??

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Nikamo » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:26 am

Hi Everyone,

I have my appointment for Biometrics tomorrow and had purchased the document checking service for what I had uploaded.

It was all fine except for they said in the mandatory section below was missing

If applicant spent the 3 or 5 year qualifying residence period in UK as a student or as a self-sufficient person, and had comprehensive sickness insurance (CSI), a copy of their sickness insurance policy is required to be uploaded to 'Other' category.


I have never been in the UK as student or self-sufficient person. Why would this be mandatory for me? Is there anything I have completed wrong in the online form? Or is this just something I can ignore?

Thanks again for your help!

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:31 am

Nikamo wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:26 am
Hi Everyone,

I have my appointment for Biometrics tomorrow and had purchased the document checking service for what I had uploaded.

It was all fine except for they said in the mandatory section below was missing

If applicant spent the 3 or 5 year qualifying residence period in UK as a student or as a self-sufficient person, and had comprehensive sickness insurance (CSI), a copy of their sickness insurance policy is required to be uploaded to 'Other' category.


I have never been in the UK as student or self-sufficient person. Why would this be mandatory for me? Is there anything I have completed wrong in the online form? Or is this just something I can ignore?

Thanks again for your help!
You can ignore this - it says "if applicant ... " so not applicable to you as you don't fall into those categories.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Nikamo » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:35 am

alterhase58 wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:31 am
Nikamo wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:26 am
Hi Everyone,

I have my appointment for Biometrics tomorrow and had purchased the document checking service for what I had uploaded.

It was all fine except for they said in the mandatory section below was missing

If applicant spent the 3 or 5 year qualifying residence period in UK as a student or as a self-sufficient person, and had comprehensive sickness insurance (CSI), a copy of their sickness insurance policy is required to be uploaded to 'Other' category.


I have never been in the UK as student or self-sufficient person. Why would this be mandatory for me? Is there anything I have completed wrong in the online form? Or is this just something I can ignore?

Thanks again for your help!
You can ignore this - it says "if applicant ... " so not applicable to you as you don't fall into those categories.
Thank you. I thought/was hoping this was the case!

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by flashq » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:10 am

I need clarification regarding the question below if possible:

Have you had any other work over the past 10 years or since you came to the UK?

I am working as an employee in a company and in the same time I am still a director of another company, I know I have to put them both but the online form additional work section comes with only start and END date which I don't have as I am still currently a director.

Can the moderators please help?

Thank you in advance.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by applier24 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:51 pm

Can you help me please?

For the 2nd referee, can I use someone who owns and runs a business? They are a UK citizen, above 25 yrs and have been running the business for 8 yrs as an entrepreneur

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:56 pm

applier24 wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:51 pm
Can you help me please?

For the 2nd referee, can I use someone who owns and runs a business? They are a UK citizen, above 25 yrs and have been running the business for 8 yrs as an entrepreneur
You only need need one professional referee. Your professional referee doesn't have to British. Your British citizen referee doesn't have to be employed or have a profession.
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Post by applier24 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:07 pm

Thanks CR001...

What I'm trying to ask really is, from the whole list of people they have, they don't say about anyone being owner of entrepreneur, just things like solicitor etc, so can I use someone who runs a business? The person is the owner and director of this company. Would that work?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:37 pm

applier24 wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:07 pm
Thanks CR001...

What I'm trying to ask really is, from the whole list of people they have, they don't say about anyone being owner of entrepreneur, just things like solicitor etc, so can I use someone who runs a business? The person is the owner and director of this company. Would that work?
Read the list again. It clearly states director of a company.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by flashq » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:39 am

flashq wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:10 am
I need clarification regarding the question below if possible:

Have you had any other work over the past 10 years or since you came to the UK?

I am working as an employee in a company and in the same time I am still a director of another company, I know I have to put them both but the online form additional work section comes with only start and END date which I don't have as I am still currently a director.

Can the moderators please help?

Thank you in advance.
Can the moderators please help? Two current jobs and the online form only got one current job section and the other is with an End date.
Thank you

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:59 am

You can add an explanatory note regarding your circumstances, and upload as part of your documents.
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