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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Nishkhan » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:38 am

Hi guys I’m new to the forum.
Can any one help me with the form.
I’m self employed and the form doesn’t give any option for self employed it only ask you are you employed or not. What should I do to compost my application.
Secondly it’s asking 10 years of history and I’ve lived in Uk for 8 years.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:14 am

Nishkhan wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:38 am
Hi guys I’m new to the forum.
Can any one help me with the form.
I’m self employed and the form doesn’t give any option for self employed it only ask you are you employed or not. What should I do to compost my application.
Secondly it’s asking 10 years of history and I’ve lived in Uk for 8 years.
By employment, the questions means any employment. If you are self employed, you simply state the details of your self employment.

The questions does also say "for 10 years or since you have been in the uk'!!
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Nishkhan » Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:57 am

CR001 wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:14 am
Nishkhan wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:38 am
Hi guys I’m new to the forum.
Can any one help me with the form.
I’m self employed and the form doesn’t give any option for self employed it only ask you are you employed or not. What should I do to compost my application.
Secondly it’s asking 10 years of history and I’ve lived in Uk for 8 years.
By employment, the questions means any employment. If you are self employed, you simply state the details of your self employment.

The questions does also say "for 10 years or since you have been in the uk'!!

Thanks CR001. Your advise indeed cleared my point.
Can u also explain what should I write in the employers name and address city town and postcode. And I was doing security for 8 months and then switched to taxi, without interrupting my self employment. both were as a self employed do that count as one or two different self employeds. Means I have to enter both separately.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:11 am

Nishkhan wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:57 am
CR001 wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:14 am
Nishkhan wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:38 am
Hi guys I’m new to the forum.
Can any one help me with the form.
I’m self employed and the form doesn’t give any option for self employed it only ask you are you employed or not. What should I do to compost my application.
Secondly it’s asking 10 years of history and I’ve lived in Uk for 8 years.
By employment, the questions means any employment. If you are self employed, you simply state the details of your self employment.

The questions does also say "for 10 years or since you have been in the uk'!!

Thanks CR001. Your advise indeed cleared my point.
Can u also explain what should I write in the employers name and address city town and postcode. And I was doing security for 8 months and then switched to taxi, without interrupting my self employment. both were as a self employed do that count as one or two different self employeds. Means I have to enter both separately.
No, if you are self employed you are not working for a company on their payroll. How are you doing self assessments? Are you a director of a ltd company etc?
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Nishkhan » Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:22 am

CR001 wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:11 am
Nishkhan wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:57 am
CR001 wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:14 am
Nishkhan wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:38 am
Hi guys I’m new to the forum.
Can any one help me with the form.
I’m self employed and the form doesn’t give any option for self employed it only ask you are you employed or not. What should I do to compost my application.
Secondly it’s asking 10 years of history and I’ve lived in Uk for 8 years.
By employment, the questions means any employment. If you are self employed, you simply state the details of your self employment.

The questions does also say "for 10 years or since you have been in the uk'!!

Thanks CR001. Your advise indeed cleared my point.
Can u also explain what should I write in the employers name and address city town and postcode. And I was doing security for 8 months and then switched to taxi, without interrupting my self employment. both were as a self employed do that count as one or two different self employeds. Means I have to enter both separately.
No, if you are self employed you are not working for a company on their payroll. How are you doing self assessments? Are you a director of a ltd company etc?
Not a company for most of the time it’s been Been a security guard for some months and then started taxi and am still doing that. I do have a shop from last year as well but I’ll be doing separate tax returns for that as a business. I’m director in that from last one year. Means I do taxi for fewer hours now. I know It’s a bit complicated

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by violetvik » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:00 pm

Hi. I'm new to the forum so hopefully this is the correct place to ask! I tried to search existing topics for what I need help with but couldn't find the correct stuff so apologies if it's already answered somewhere.

I'm in the process of filling out my online application for naturalisation (been here for 11 years now and also have settlement scheme ILR). I am a bit confused on a couple of things:

1) in what order should I be entering my previous employment history and absences from the UK? I can't find any information in the guidance on whether it should be entered from oldest to newest, or most recent to oldest. Does it even matter? I want to make sure it's correct.

2) since I have no passport stamp from when I entered the UK back in 2009 (as a to-be-student), are my p45/p60s/payslips going to be enough evidence to prove I've been here in the last 5 years? I've worked pretty much constantly since 2011 so hopefully should be enough?

Thanks in advance and again apologies if this is the wrong place to ask!

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:11 pm

violetvik wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:00 pm
1) in what order should I be entering my previous employment history and absences from the UK? I can't find any information in the guidance on whether it should be entered from oldest to newest, or most recent to oldest. Does it even matter? I want to make sure it's correct.

Personally I would always start with the current or most recent and then work back - don't think it matters, but certainly CV advisors recommend this.
2) since I have no passport stamp from when I entered the UK back in 2009 (as a to-be-student), are my p45/p60s/payslips going to be enough evidence to prove I've been here in the last 5 years? I've worked pretty much constantly since 2011 so hopefully should be enough?
P60 or letters from employers are sufficient (P45 or payslips not required).
Thanks in advance and again apologies if this is the wrong place to ask!
No problem - you are free to open your own thread further down the board.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by violetvik » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:37 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:11 pm
violetvik wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:00 pm
1) in what order should I be entering my previous employment history and absences from the UK? I can't find any information in the guidance on whether it should be entered from oldest to newest, or most recent to oldest. Does it even matter? I want to make sure it's correct.

Personally I would always start with the current or most recent and then work back - don't think it matters, but certainly CV advisors recommend this.
2) since I have no passport stamp from when I entered the UK back in 2009 (as a to-be-student), are my p45/p60s/payslips going to be enough evidence to prove I've been here in the last 5 years? I've worked pretty much constantly since 2011 so hopefully should be enough?
P60 or letters from employers are sufficient (P45 or payslips not required).
Thanks in advance and again apologies if this is the wrong place to ask!
No problem - you are free to open your own thread further down the board.
Thank you for the quick reply! I have probably about 10 other questions to be honest so I will take your advice on own thread. :)

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Evicra » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:52 pm

Hi
advice requested please .Q- have you made any previous Immigration application in uk or abroad.
My immigration history starts from Sep 2000 when first i arrived as student.
i gave details about last 10 years of my history. i am on 5 year T1-ILR-Naturalisation route.
is 10-year history enough or i have to give complete 20-year history of immigration applications
thanks

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:13 pm

Evicra wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:52 pm
Hi
advice requested please .Q- have you made any previous Immigration application in uk or abroad.
My immigration history starts from Sep 2000 when first i arrived as student.
i gave details about last 10 years of my history. i am on 5 year T1-ILR-Naturalisation route.
is 10-year history enough or i have to give complete 20-year history of immigration applications
thanks
The question asks for "any" application, not just for the last 10 years, so I would add as much detail as you have. If necessary estimate dates to month/year.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Vhaelan » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:09 pm

Hi guys,

This forum has been incredibly useful, but I have two questions I couldn't really answer:
  1. I have been working for the same company for more than 10 years, first in my home country and later here in the UK after I applied for an internal transfer. However, after arriving in the UK I was employed by the company's legal entity in my home country for the first 4 months, before my transfer to the UK legal entity actually happened. How should I record these 4 months in my employment history?
  2. How should we record the absences in question 2.2 if we visited multiple countries during one trip? Should it be just the main country (i.e. where most of the time was spent)?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by hamzakhani » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:05 am

hi
i have the similar question. im working in company from 2010 my question is for how many months or years i need to show P60 as im applying after 2 weeks

thank you very much

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:11 pm

hamzakhani wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:05 am
hi
i have the similar question. im working in company from 2010 my question is for how many months or years i need to show P60 as im applying after 2 weeks

thank you very much
You don't need P60s. You only need your passports covering the last 5 years before date of application. It is only those on the EEA/EU route that require P60s or other evidence of residence as their passports don't get stamped.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by flashq » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:37 pm

CR001 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:36 am
flashq wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:31 am
Hi, can the moderators kindly help with the questions below:

1) On the online form, there is a part that says You must have been in the UK on the first day of your 5-year qualifying period: I was outside the UK from May 2015 until September 2015 do I need to wait until September 2020 to apply? or can I give the HO more than 5 years qualifying period (include my travel from May to September 2015)? and give them 5 years and 4 months so I can give a date that I was in the UK?

2) is there an expiry date for the referees' letters? for example 30 days from the date they sign?

Your help is much appreciated.
Thank you
1. You should wait till September. Being physically present in the UK at the start of 5 year qualifying period is a mandatory requirement and members have been refused citizenship for failing to meet this and lost their fees. Citizenship is based ONLY on the 5 years immediately preceding the date of application. So applying with "5 years and 4 months" is completely irrelevant. HO will only consider 5 years for the physically presence requirement.

2. Should be dated as close to date of application as possible.

One more question please: I have now submitted my application online on the 13/09/2020 but there are no appointments yet. would that date (13/09) would be the date they count the 5 years qualifying period from? or would they count from the date I go to my appointment?
Thanks in advance.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:45 pm

flashq wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:37 pm
CR001 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:36 am
flashq wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:31 am
Hi, can the moderators kindly help with the questions below:

1) On the online form, there is a part that says You must have been in the UK on the first day of your 5-year qualifying period: I was outside the UK from May 2015 until September 2015 do I need to wait until September 2020 to apply? or can I give the HO more than 5 years qualifying period (include my travel from May to September 2015)? and give them 5 years and 4 months so I can give a date that I was in the UK?

2) is there an expiry date for the referees' letters? for example 30 days from the date they sign?

Your help is much appreciated.
Thank you
1. You should wait till September. Being physically present in the UK at the start of 5 year qualifying period is a mandatory requirement and members have been refused citizenship for failing to meet this and lost their fees. Citizenship is based ONLY on the 5 years immediately preceding the date of application. So applying with "5 years and 4 months" is completely irrelevant. HO will only consider 5 years for the physically presence requirement.

2. Should be dated as close to date of application as possible.

One more question please: I have now submitted my application online on the 13/09/2020 but there are no appointments yet. would that date (13/09) would be the date they count the 5 years qualifying period from? or would they count from the date I go to my appointment?
Thanks in advance.
Yes - it's five years back from the submission/paid date - the biometrics appointment date is not relevant for this requirement.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by flashq » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:00 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:45 pm
flashq wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:37 pm
CR001 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:36 am
flashq wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:31 am
Hi, can the moderators kindly help with the questions below:

1) On the online form, there is a part that says You must have been in the UK on the first day of your 5-year qualifying period: I was outside the UK from May 2015 until September 2015 do I need to wait until September 2020 to apply? or can I give the HO more than 5 years qualifying period (include my travel from May to September 2015)? and give them 5 years and 4 months so I can give a date that I was in the UK?

2) is there an expiry date for the referees' letters? for example 30 days from the date they sign?

Your help is much appreciated.
Thank you
1. You should wait till September. Being physically present in the UK at the start of 5 year qualifying period is a mandatory requirement and members have been refused citizenship for failing to meet this and lost their fees. Citizenship is based ONLY on the 5 years immediately preceding the date of application. So applying with "5 years and 4 months" is completely irrelevant. HO will only consider 5 years for the physically presence requirement.

2. Should be dated as close to date of application as possible.

One more question please: I have now submitted my application online on the 13/09/2020 but there are no appointments yet. would that date (13/09) would be the date they count the 5 years qualifying period from? or would they count from the date I go to my appointment?
Thanks in advance.
Yes - it's five years back from the submission/paid date - the biometrics appointment date is not relevant for this requirement.
thank you. much appreciated.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by hamzakhani » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:49 am

Hi, can the moderators kindly help please

i have submitted my application online on 17th sept 2020 and uploaded my documents through app on 23rd sep 2020 as i received the email from homeoffice.
my question is should i book the appointment for biometrics or should i wait for homeoffice email for biometric as i'm very confuse about this

thank you :D

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by spiff » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:04 pm

Re: referee, does the referee with a British passport aged over 25 need to be resident in the UK? Or merely a British citizen?

Reason I ask is Form AN does not contain a box for country for the address of the referee

Have tried searching this without success. The Form AN, Guide AN, Nationality Forms Guide nor MN1 and AN Referee declaration form does not state anything about UK residency, just British citizenship re: the referee.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by marykokopelli » Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:08 pm

Hi,
I am new here and had a look to see if I can find the answer, but with no luck.

In the process of filling in form AN. I have lived in the UK with my partner (not married, not in civil partnership) for more than 10 years. We have a daughter together.

At the start of the form it asks about martial status, so I was going to go with "unmarried partner".

At the end of the form it then asks: "Do you have any children whose birth parent is not your partner?"

As the word partner normally refers to a married / civil partner, I am now not sure if I should say yes or no to this question, if I have answered the first earlier question with being in an unmarried partnership?

Sorry if this is confusing- but can anybody help?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by theduck » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:06 am

Hi everyone

First time poster and even though I searched the forum I couldn't find the answers on the queries below so apologies in advance if my search skills failed me. I am currently completing the form and have the following queries:

- I am applying after having had 12 months of Settled Status - in the beginning of the application it asks if I am an EEA applicant and if I have an ILR certificate - do I answer yes here on the basis of the Settled Status email?

- In the question "Do you have a UK degree" the answer would typically be yes for me (I had a Masters done in the UK and an English bachelors from abroad). However, my UK masters degree certificate has been lost for quite some time now - I typically would get confirmation from the university but given how specific they are (+university turn around times due to COVID) I opted for the safest option which is to take the B1 test (with LanguageCert). If I do answer that I have a degree from a UK university however the online form immediately thinks that I will use that as my language certification. If I answer "no" however so that I can provide the B1 test number, wouldn't the Home Office treat that as me failing to disclose important info (i.e. lying?).

- Can your referees work for the same company as you? For example using two registered solicitors (who are also friends of mine and friends between themselves) from the company that I work for?

Many thanks in advance for any help provided

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