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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:28 am

theduck wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:06 am
Hi everyone

First time poster and even though I searched the forum I couldn't find the answers on the queries below so apologies in advance if my search skills failed me. I am currently completing the form and have the following queries:

- I am applying after having had 12 months of Settled Status - in the beginning of the application it asks if I am an EEA applicant and if I have an ILR certificate - do I answer yes here on the basis of the Settled Status email? Where is says "EEA citizen with a PR document" answer NO then go to the option ILR and select "ILR on basis of Settled Status".

- In the question "Do you have a UK degree" the answer would typically be yes for me (I had a Masters done in the UK and an English bachelors from abroad). However, my UK masters degree certificate has been lost for quite some time now - I typically would get confirmation from the university but given how specific they are (+university turn around times due to COVID) I opted for the safest option which is to take the B1 test (with LanguageCert). If I do answer that I have a degree from a UK university however the online form immediately thinks that I will use that as my language certification. If I answer "no" however so that I can provide the B1 test number, wouldn't the Home Office treat that as me failing to disclose important info (i.e. lying?). No - ticking B1 is sufficient - you don't have to disclose all qualifications you have.

- Can your referees work for the same company as you? For example using two registered solicitors (who are also friends of mine and friends between themselves) from the company that I work for? Yes - colleagues and friends from the same company are fine - did the same myself no issues.

Many thanks in advance for any help provided
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by theduck » Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:03 pm

Many thanks alterhase58 - truly much appreciate the responses.

With regards to your first response - it is a bit confusing as the Settled Status appears only if you select that you have a permanent residency certificate. Otherwise if you press "No" to that question you are taken to the "ILR" section where it merely asks when you got "ILR" (without referencing ILR). I suspect that in this instance Settled Status would fall within the definition of "ILR" and consequently I am going to respond with a "No" to the PR Certificate and then on to the next page where I will respond yes to ILR question (and provide the date that I received Settled Status).

With regards to the second response - that is what I thought also. Perhaps I am overthinking it and the layout of the website just doesn't help. It's not like we are given multiple choices but rather you get to the B1 section only and to the extent you have exhausted any previous questions (i.e. no university degree, etc). Looking at the paper format of the application this would have been much easier to answer without having to disclose or answer any other segment of education.

Lastly i am stuck on the referee bit now until my friends confirm their full details - for whatever reason you just can't skip any question in this application before moving on to the next bit! Once I put their details in do I just print their relevant pages and have them sign the referee form along with my picture prior to submitting the application?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:14 pm

theduck wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:03 pm
Many thanks alterhase58 - truly much appreciate the responses.

With regards to your first response - it is a bit confusing as the Settled Status appears only if you select that you have a permanent residency certificate. Otherwise if you press "No" to that question you are taken to the "ILR" section where it merely asks when you got "ILR" (without referencing ILR). I suspect that in this instance Settled Status would fall within the definition of "ILR" and consequently I am going to respond with a "No" to the PR Certificate and then on to the next page where I will respond yes to ILR question (and provide the date that I received Settled Status).Note we don't have sight of all the online application screens so we rely on members' experience. You should certainly upload a copy of your confirmation email just in case. Settled Status is on their system so they will find you.

With regards to the second response - that is what I thought also. Perhaps I am overthinking it and the layout of the website just doesn't help. It's not like we are given multiple choices but rather you get to the B1 section only and to the extent you have exhausted any previous questions (i.e. no university degree, etc). Looking at the paper format of the application this would have been much easier to answer without having to disclose or answer any other segment of education. Overthinking yes - I did the paper form some years ago so in some aspects that's a bit more user-friendly.

Lastly i am stuck on the referee bit now until my friends confirm their full details - for whatever reason you just can't skip any question in this application before moving on to the next bit! Once I put their details in do I just print their relevant pages and have them sign the referee form along with my picture prior to submitting the application? Yes - I believe that happens when you have submitted/paid. You load the declarations with all your other documents.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by nidaulhaque » Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:44 pm

I am applying for my Aunt but really confused about proving 5 years residency
she claimed asylum and whcih was granted and she given premenant residance as regugee last yet 09/2019
she issued travel document in 09/2015 which is expired in 09/2019 and she have now only biomatric card which proves her permanent status.
the passposrt she travelled to this county kept by home office and never rerturned to her

now my question is travel document only prove 4 years till 09/2019 how to prove last year? she never renewed travel document and she never went out of Uk since she came in 2013

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by cheeish » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:24 pm

Hi all

I am a spouse of British citizen (who got British citizenship via ILR -LR) and i got recenty ILR via SET M (after completing 5 year route)

From various sources i heard that if i want to apply for naturalisation i don't need to wait for 12 months and can i apply straight after getting my ILR via SET M, Is this right?

And where is this information documented so i can go through

Please advise

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:02 am

cheeish wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:24 pm
Hi all

I am a spouse of British citizen (who got British citizenship via ILR -LR) and i got recenty ILR via SET M (after completing 5 year route)

From various sources i heard that if i want to apply for naturalisation i don't need to wait for 12 months and can i apply straight after getting my ILR via SET M, Is this right?

And where is this information documented so i can go through

Please advise
Yes you can apply once you got your BRP card - no need to wait 12 months.
Guidance: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... n-guidance
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by knivo » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:31 pm

Hi everyone,

I am applying for naturalisation as an EEA citizen. I've been in the UK since 2011, I have PR since 2016 and now also have settled status.

Since my PR application was for 2011-2016 and my naturalisation application would be focusing on 2015-2020, should I provide the exact same documents I provided for my PR application but for 2015-2020, or is it just a matter of proving that I lived in the UK during 2015-2020?

Many thanks for your help

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:55 pm

knivo wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:31 pm
Hi everyone,

I am applying for naturalisation as an EEA citizen. I've been in the UK since 2011, I have PR since 2016 and now also have settled status.

Since my PR application was for 2011-2016 and my naturalisation application would be focusing on 2015-2020, should I provide the exact same documents I provided for my PR application but for 2015-2020, or is it just a matter of proving that I lived in the UK during 2015-2020?

Many thanks for your help
You provide documents to cover the five years back from the naturalisation application date.
Documents as per the guidance, such a P60s or employer letters - the requirements are different from EEA applications.
Guidance: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... n-guidance
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Wtaribo » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:51 am

Hi guy i am about to apply for naturalisation as a spouse.my wife was herself naturalised many years ago,problem is i need her naturalisation certificate number and we cannot find the certificate,is this going to be a major problem?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Hristina_Iv » Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:23 am

Dear all,

I am currently completing the online naturalisation form and have a couple of questions I was hoping you can help me with:

1. Authority on Russian passport written in cyrillic only - on my Russian passport, the issuing authority is written in cyrillic only (МИД России 44201) with no English translation like it's done for the other fields. Do I add it in cyrillic in the form, or do I have to translate myself (e.g. MID Rossii 44201). That is not an authorised translation though and may confuse the person reading if they dont know the cyrillic alphabet

2. Date when you first arrived in the UK - Should I enter 2008, the date when I arrived to study in a UK university, or a more recent date? My qualifying period has started much after 2008, and I had some long summer absenses. The form says to enter the date when I arrived with an intention to stay, but that is not something I can specifically pinpoint. Any advice?

3. Biometrics - as a Bulgarian/russian dual citizen, what should I tick for the biometric residence permit question? I dont believe it's something I've done before as I use my BG passport for all travels - I assume I need to select "No, I do not have a BRP for my most recent leave" and "Do you have a BRP from a previous stay in the UK? - No"?

4. Referee form - can you please confirm that this is the form my referees need to complete? I understand that form is provided to the applicant only after the application is submitted, after which they cannot be changed - I assume I can also request them to complete it before I have submitted and paid, so I can be sure there will be no hiccups after and I have all I need before the payment? Also again, another question that I see has been asked multiple times but I still dont understand - if it's only the scanned copies of the referee forms being sent, why do we need to write our name on the back of the photos and stick them - what I am missing here? This wont be visisble in a pdf document.

5. Previous Passports - do I need to provide all previous passports for the full 5 year period? Bulgaria does not give back expired passports so that would prove impossible - is it a requirement?

Thank you very much in advance!

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:51 pm

Hristina_Iv wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:23 am
Dear all,

I am currently completing the online naturalisation form and have a couple of questions I was hoping you can help me with:

1. Authority on Russian passport written in cyrillic only - on my Russian passport, the issuing authority is written in cyrillic only (МИД России 44201) with no English translation like it's done for the other fields. Do I add it in cyrillic in the form, or do I have to translate myself (e.g. MID Rossii 44201). That is not an authorised translation though and may confuse the person reading if they dont know the cyrillic alphabet
Suggest you use your translation - UKVI & HMPO should be quite familiar with what passports from around the world look like.

2. Date when you first arrived in the UK - Should I enter 2008, the date when I arrived to study in a UK university, or a more recent date? My qualifying period has started much after 2008, and I had some long summer absenses. The form says to enter the date when I arrived with an intention to stay, but that is not something I can specifically pinpoint. Any advice?
The next date you entered the UK? Alternatively use 2008 - it should not make a difference.

3. Biometrics - as a Bulgarian/russian dual citizen, what should I tick for the biometric residence permit question? I dont believe it's something I've done before as I use my BG passport for all travels - I assume I need to select "No, I do not have a BRP for my most recent leave" and "Do you have a BRP from a previous stay in the UK? - No"?
Correct

4. Referee form - can you please confirm that this is the form my referees need to complete? I understand that form is provided to the applicant only after the application is submitted, after which they cannot be changed - I assume I can also request them to complete it before I have submitted and paid, so I can be sure there will be no hiccups after and I have all I need before the payment? Also again, another question that I see has been asked multiple times but I still dont understand - if it's only the scanned copies of the referee forms being sent, why do we need to write our name on the back of the photos and stick them - what I am missing here? This wont be visisble in a pdf document.
Probably a hangover from the paper submission process (I went through) - photos can get detached in transit.

5. Previous Passports - do I need to provide all previous passports for the full 5 year period? Bulgaria does not give back expired passports so that would prove impossible - is it a requirement?
Only your current passport required if applying as an EU citizen (applicants with UK ILR get their passports stamped and provide alll covering the residemncy period.

Thank you very much in advance!
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by ninjapizza » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:04 am

Hi all, I submitted my online application and now need to keep an eye out for available UKVCAS appointments.

My question is - if i quit my current job and be unemployed, will this impact negatively on my Citizenship application? Would I need to inform them of this employment change, if I leave the job, as in application I've entered as "currently employed"?

thanks

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:57 am

ninjapizza wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:04 am
Hi all, I submitted my online application and now need to keep an eye out for available UKVCAS appointments.

My question is - if i quit my current job and be unemployed, will this impact negatively on my Citizenship application? Would I need to inform them of this employment change, if I leave the job, as in application I've entered as "currently employed"?

thanks
It won't impact your application. You are not required to advise employment changes post application date.
Note that employment is not mandatory for naturalisation..
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by ninjapizza » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:06 am

alterhase58 wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:57 am
ninjapizza wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:04 am
Hi all, I submitted my online application and now need to keep an eye out for available UKVCAS appointments.

My question is - if i quit my current job and be unemployed, will this impact negatively on my Citizenship application? Would I need to inform them of this employment change, if I leave the job, as in application I've entered as "currently employed"?

thanks
It won't impact your application. You are not required to advise employment changes post application date.
Note that employment is not mandatory for naturalisation..
Thanks for the response! thats reassuring.. now just hoping new SopraSteria slots open up.. haven't seen new app. times available for a while

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by GeneTakovic » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:43 pm

Hi. I am stuck on good character section. I have two parking tickets (around 4 years ago), and a 'Seizure information notice' from Border Force. Basically I was trying to bring to UK too many cigarettes and Border Force didn't trust me its for my mothers use. It was 4000 cigarettes, 4 years ago.
Should I include the information about seizure in the online form?

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