Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

jlj1982 · Post by **jlj1982** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:43 am

Hi,

I have been in the UK for close to 6 years on a work permit (2 years) followed by a Tier 1 visa (3 years). I obtained ILR on 21 February 2013 and I'm looking to apply for naturalisation next month. With regards to form AN, I have the following queries:

1. English language requirement: As I have previously satisfied the requirement for having obtained an academic qualification recognised by NARIC as being of the appropriate standard (through my WP and Tier 1 applications), what documentation do I need to provide proof of this?

Ordinarily I would assume it is flagged on the UKBA database that I have met this requirement but on this message board I noticed that people have mentioned that I need to print out the UKBA website calculator indicating this. I wanted to confirm whether this is all that's required because some of my friends have mentioned that an English Exam (through Trinity) is required or alternatively sending degrees and academic transcripts to obtain written confirmation from NARIC may need to be done.

There appear to be many different ways to go about this but I just wanted to confirm which of these is actually necessary.

2. Occupation: I am currently unemployed and looking to start my own business (but as of yet have not done so wrt. a legal entity). What option should I select in section 3.2? Additionally, I have sufficient funds to support myself during this period so is it recommended that I obtain bank statements and submit this with my application?

Some guidance would be greatly appreciated. Apologies if this has been answered to some degree in other threads.

milan69 · Post by **milan69** » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:53 pm

In the past 3 years I was absent from UK 35 times. On Page 2 - "Residence requirements" I can only put 20 absences meaning that I will have to write remaining on Page 15 - "Further Information Not Covered" which will pretty much fill that page too.
As I will be requesting discretion would the cover letter be suitable to state the reasons why discretion should be granted to me?

Longwait123 · Post by **Longwait123** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:11 pm

If I am applying naturalisation do I need to have UK test life or I can apply with my ESOl
?

Please guys clarify to me that

Thanks

alnuaimiuk · Post by **alnuaimiuk** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:24 pm

From the 28-10-2013 you can not apply for naturalisation with out passing the life in the uk test even if you have a PHD

Longwait123 wrote:If I am applying naturalisation do I need to have UK test life or I can apply with my ESOl
?

Please guys clarify to me that

Thanks

fairgrace · Post by **fairgrace** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:56 pm

Hi,

I'm Italian and have been in the UK since 1998. I'm married to a British citizen since 2006 and gone travelling with him quite a bit since. Our home is here in the UK and my life is established here. I have not got ILR and now I've decided to apply for citizenship based on marriage and EU treaty route. We also have a young child who was born in the UK.
My questions are as follows.
1. I have P60 until 5 April 2006, then I stopped working and gone travelling in the UK. We then gone abroad for less then 1 year, back in 2008 and then away again for work in 2009 (my spouse's). I have not been away from the UK for more than 2 years consecutively, but I'm not sure how to demonstrate that as I wasn't in work at time (nor studying). Any idea how I can prove that I haven't left as when travelling in the UK, I was basically a landlord with my spouse. I've paid always NI voluntary contribution when not in work. Would they accept that evidence?
2. If I apply now, in section 1.17 I need to provide addresses for my past 5 years. We were not in the UK for a chunk of that time and when in the UK, our house was still rented, so we normally stayed at our friends' house. Should I put their address down and would it be a problem as I was out of the country at the beginning of the 5 years period (this does not have to be my qualifying period as I can use the years from 2001-2006)?
3. How can I prove that I was here at the beginning of my 3 years qualifying period as I was pregnant, but was not working? Would a letter from my GP help?

I am really concerned as I really want to apply now as we are going to be abroad again for what could potentially be a very long time and I'm worried of loosing any rights I have acquired so far. After all, my adult life has all been based in the UK.

How can I demonstrate all this? I'm also registered to the AIRE in London (Italian Resident Abroad). Would notification from them help?

Sorry, I'm not sure if I manage to make myself clear, but any advise would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance and regards

lapkapups · Post by **lapkapups** » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:55 am

Hello guys!

I'm back on this forum and hoping for your helpful advice as usual

I am applying for British Citizenship following sucessfull EEA4 application and PR issued in January 2013 (took only 2 months for them to process the application!). However, I am confused about filling in the part of the application form dealing with EEA and family members. Form AN, points 2.4 & 2.5.

It specifically asks to answer if I am a family member of an EEA national and if yes, fill in all the stuff about spouse exersicing treaty rights, etc. However, I have already been granted PR and submitted all those documents with the EEA4 form so I'm not dependent on my husband anymore and shouldn't provide these documents again (it says so at the end of the form, section 4 of Supporting Documents). Basically, it is confusing. On the one hand, if I provide PR card I don't need to provide anything from my husband. On the other hand, there is no option in ponts 2.4/2.5 to tick somewhere that I have PR, it just simply asks if I am a family member and if yes, fill this in.

Not sure what to do. Anybody knows? I've alerady seen an official from NPC but she said she had no idea how to treat it and advised me just to leave it blank. But I am still married and technically I am a family member though my PR card doesn't say it.

Thanks

neverbackdown · Post by **neverbackdown** » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:31 pm

hi guys,

not sure if this is the right post for this query but i hope some1 can answer.
i got ILR in June 2013 on basis of Long Residency
can someone answer my questions below
1)which form do i need to use for naturalisation?
2)do i need to apply by post or can i go for face to face interview?
3) when is the earliest i can apply for naturalisation?
4) i am applying for my Mrs Set(m), does she has to wait for a year before she can apply for naturalisation or she can apply straight away. she is in UK since May 2011 (2 yrs 9 months)
thanks & Regards

Magik009 · Post by **Magik009** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:48 pm

Hello Members,

I have a question, please help me if you can, Back in June 2012 I got 3 points(outside court) for speeding and another 3 points and FPN for using mobile whilst driving in Nov 2012 (outside court), should I mention them in my application or should I simply send my counterpart with out mentioning them in my application?

Thanks & Regards

bale541 · Post by **bale541** » Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:33 pm

Hi guys
I got 3 point on my driving licence sp 30.
Do I need to tell this in my application ?
If yes then in which section ? I am quite confused its not a criminal offence .
Please tell me in which section do I need to fill in.

milan69 · Post by **milan69** » Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:49 pm

Hi Bale,
see question 8 – Good Character Requirement FAQs.

bale541 · Post by **bale541** » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:17 pm

milan69 wrote:Hi Bale,
see question 8 – Good Character Requirement FAQs.

Sorry again
I am still confused in which section I need to fill in on application form

Post by **Amber** » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:11 pm

If you were issued an FPN it doesn't need declaring but you should include a copy of your paper counterpart if points are still on it,

khan09 · Post by **khan09** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:27 pm

I am applying for naturalisation in June 2014. I got my ILR in June 2013. My questions are as follows:

1) Is my Life in the UK test that I passed for ILR is also valid for naturalisation or I have to give it again? I am asking this because the application form page 5 have this option:

"I met the knowledge of language and life requirement to qualify for settlement on or after 28th October 2013;"

Given that I passed my life in the uk test before 28 October 2013 does that mean I have to give it again?

2) I have a MSC degree from City University, do I have to get NAIRC comparability letter?

The updated application form and rules are very confusing!

Thanks for the help

milan69 · Post by **milan69** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:29 pm

1. You don't need to pass LIUK test, just write the number of the one you've passed in the box on the form.
2.

by Amber_ » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:52 pm
If the masters was taught in the UK then no further evidence but for the certificate.

lake1 · Post by **lake1** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:56 pm

Hi All,

Do anyone know what was the last version of form AN before the current one, the current one is October 2013 what was the one before it?

Am asking because am looking to naturalise around August this year and I want to fill in the form now or as soon as possible but I dont want to get my referees to sign the form on this version then find out the form has changed before I apply and thus asking them to sign again.

Is there any chance there will be a new version of form AN before August this year?

I noticed that most forms for other applications was changed earlier this month but nothing for form AN.

Annuk · Post by **Annuk** » Wed May 07, 2014 2:44 pm

Hi guys
I would like to ask about referees.
One of them is Self-Employed and second one is quantitative analyst.
But not exactly from this list. I don't know any person this profession.
Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

milan69 · Post by **milan69** » Wed May 07, 2014 2:47 pm

Does your Self employed referee have a limited company by any chance?

Annuk · Post by **Annuk** » Wed May 07, 2014 4:22 pm

milan69 wrote:Does your Self employed referee have a limited company by any chance?

No, he'd close Limited Company in February.

milan69 · Post by **milan69** » Wed May 07, 2014 4:31 pm

For my first referee I would do my best for him/her to be from list of allowed professions.

divisionbell · Post by **divisionbell** » Wed May 07, 2014 6:25 pm

Hi,
I have a few questions about submitting my citizenship application:
1. Q1.17: while stating my addresses for 5 years, I remembered that while moving from one apartment to another in 2010, I had vacated my previous apartment, and went abroad for ten days for holidays. I moved to the new apartment after coming back to UK. In this case, do I need to leave gap of ten days which I spent with my family abroad and mention dates of leaving previous apartment and occupying new apartment accurately? And mention the address abroad where I lived for these ten days? Or I should not mention this gap?

Secondly in 2012, I moved apartment again. Vacated previous apartment and went holidaying staying in hotels for next three weeks in UK, and then moved into new apartment. Should I state the correct dates against leaving prev apartment and moving into new one which will have a gap of three weeks? Or should I not mention this gap?

2. Q1.22: for english language requirement, which box should I tick? My degree from abroad was recognised by pbs calculator which means it is recognised by Naric. Also when I came to UK on hsmp in 2008, I had taken IELTS test at that time. I plan to submit that expired IELTS certificate, alongwith with my degree certificate and printout of pbs calculator. Do you think this evidence is good enough for meeting english language requirement? I ll submit life in uk tret result too as evidence for life in uk. Can u confirm if I shud tick the first or the second box in this question?

Thanks

newcitizen · Post by **newcitizen** » Thu May 22, 2014 2:34 pm

Hi,

I have gone through this site many times and got a great help from the topics dicsussed. Thanks to everyone. Currently, I am applying naturalisation for me & my child. I have few questions on the AN & MN1 forms filling. Can anyone please clarify on the doubts below ?

AN Form
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1) Under Knowledge of language/Life in the UK part - Page number 5 - Question 1.22 ?? -> I have passed my Life in the UK test and have filled the test number in the box and ticked the first check box. However, I have got India university based engineering degree and it has been recognised in the PBS calculator and given points for language requirement and qualification requirements. Based on this, which check box should I tick in "AND EITHER category" I am not sure which box I have to tick ?

2) If I produce the PBS calculator printout whcih shows my Indian university diplayed and points provided, does it enough to satisfy the Language requirement? along with my original degree certificate? I have not got UKNARIC certificate one. so very much worried

3) Page 10-Section 3- Question 3.5 -- > what should I write for "Address of tax office or tax office reference"? I am working as a permanent employee and not sure about the tax office details(Known only the name HMRC)

4) What is the latest version of the form AN?

MN1 Form
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1) My child born in India and now with me in UK with ILR. Also me & my wife have got ILR too. So, I am applying for my child naturalization. Which section shoudl I fill in question 1.1. I am confused about the sections. But, I guess SECTION 3(1). still need to double check and get confirmation ?

2) Do I need to fill the section 3 on page 8--if the section I filled 1.1 as SECTION 3(1)?

3) What is the latest version of the form MN1?

Please clarify and make me clear on this as sson as possible. My appointment is very much nearing. Thanks in advance.

newcitizen · Post by **newcitizen** » Fri May 23, 2014 9:17 am

Hi, Can anyone please clarify on my doubts. Thanks a lot.

ohojska · Post by **ohojska** » Sat May 24, 2014 9:33 pm

Hi All,
I hope that someone was in the same situation and knows the answers to my few questions:
1. As a EU national working continuously in UK for 6 years didn't apply for the ILR as it's not a requirement. My question is what shall I write in the question 1.3 regarding the date when my ILR was granted?
2. Do I need to submit any additional documents confirming my continues stay in UK except the 6xP60 and WRS? like some randoms payslips or bank statements?
3. It does say in the guide as well that the application can be refused if I was absent from UK 5 years ago before my application was submitted. What confuses me is fact that as a EU I need to proof 6 years stay in UK so are they gonna check was I in UK 5 or 6 years ago? It actually makes a difference for me as I was on holiday 5 years ago
4. Can my husband send my application on my behalf while I will be abroad?

Thank you for all the comments

newcitizen · Post by **newcitizen** » Tue May 27, 2014 10:34 am

Hi,

Any senior members or those who have applied recently, can answer my questions below please?

Thanks

AN Form
----------
1) Under Knowledge of language/Life in the UK part - Page number 5 - Question 1.22 ?? -> I have passed my Life in the UK test and have filled the test number in the box and ticked the first check box. However, I have got India university based engineering degree and it has been recognised in the PBS calculator and given points for language requirement and qualification requirements. Based on this, which check box should I tick in "AND EITHER category" I am not sure which box I have to tick ?

2) If I produce the PBS calculator printout whcih shows my Indian university diplayed and points provided, does it enough to satisfy the Language requirement? along with my original degree certificate? I have not got UKNARIC certificate one. so very much worried

3) Page 10-Section 3- Question 3.5 -- > what should I write for "Address of tax office or tax office reference"? I am working as a permanent employee and not sure about the tax office details(Known only the name HMRC)

4) What is the latest version of the form AN?

MN1 Form
------------
1) My child born in India and now with me in UK with ILR. Also me & my wife have got ILR too. So, I am applying for my child naturalization. Which section shoudl I fill in question 1.1. I am confused about the sections. But, I guess SECTION 3(1). still need to double check and get confirmation ?

2) Do I need to fill the section 3 on page 8--if the section I filled 1.1 as SECTION 3(1)?

3) What is the latest version of the form MN1?

ikissin · Post by **ikissin** » Sat May 31, 2014 2:16 pm

I am about to apply for Naturalisation. I do not have a job at the moment, as I was made redundant a month ago, and am searching for a new roles at the moment.
Could someone please advise what to put for question 3.1 / 3.2 / 3.3 of the AN Form (information about Employment) - it doesn't even have tick box for unemployed.

Many thanks in advance!

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