Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

hi
Need some advice on filling AN form thru eea 6 yr route.
2.4
We ticked on non eea family member.
On what basis non eea was here for last 6 years..
Do we have to give detail about non-eea or eea national?
Sry 1 more thing my husband has already confirmed Pr which was issued in oct 2010. So, on 1.3 should we fill the date when our 6 years started(which i think should be the case) or the date on which pr was confirmed.
Any advice will be much appreciated.

Hi All,

I also have a question in regards to questions [b]2.4 - 2.5 on AN form[/b].
I'm a no-EEA family member of EEA national.
Do I have to fill in my information in 2.4 clause in order to state on what basis I was in the UK for the last six years? If so, why do they have clause 2.5 asking for almost the same information?
That's so confusing....

Can anyone please share their experience? Thank you.

leoleo wrote:Hi All,

I also have a question in regards to questions [b]2.4 - 2.5 on AN form[/b].
I'm a no-EEA family member of EEA national.
Do I have to fill in my information in 2.4 clause in order to state on what basis I was in the UK for the last six years? If so, why do they have clause 2.5 asking for almost the same information?
That's so confusing....

Can anyone please share their experience? Thank you.

i am actually wondering about the same question 2.4, i had PR but i am not an EEA family member anymore since i have divorced. do i need to tick this, looking at it logically i dont need to but i am not sure of other people's experience.

Hi
Well, it seems to me nobody knows whose detail required in clause 2.4.But I think Non Eea details required for 2.4 and detail of Eea in 2.5.Again not sure if anyone can help we will be very thankful.
And does anyone knows if homeoffice advicer can help with filling form if I call on their given Contact Number.

londonfemale wrote:Hi
Well, it seems to me nobody knows whose detail required in clause 2.4.But I think Non Eea details required for 2.4 and detail of Eea in 2.5.Again not sure if anyone can help we will be very thankful.
And does anyone knows if homeoffice advicer can help with filling form if I call on their given Contact Number.

i am actually surprised that this forum didnt have many people wondering about 2.4 in Form AN. could it be that most EU people dont bother with BC at all?

John wrote:In that case definitely give your current employers details, that is, as regards "my present employer is ready to give me PAYE reference & tax office address", indeed get information from your current employer.

When you left the previous employer, you got a form P45 and parts of that were given to your current employer. That current employer would have filed part of what you handed in with HMRC, and hence your reference in the HMRC computer system changed.

I have a related question. I usually work for my own limited company as a Director and Software Consultant. During this year, I worked for an outside company for a brief period - three weeks - and left. That company has given me a P45. I gave that to my accountant, and they said, they will use it while filing my self assessment (not yet due for the period ending 5th April 2011).

I am applying for naturalisation on next week, and I have attached the last year's P60 for the period ending 5th April 2010 (my own company's), last assessment statement statement from HMRC, and last corporation tax payment statement. Should I attach also the P45 issued by the company for the short employment?

londonfemale,
I sent you a private message the other day. Please check your inbox. Thanks.

Hey, I was in the same situation. I am a non-eea family member too. I got so confused with this question.

I think if you are not a EEA national yourself and have held PR for 1 year you don't need to fill out 2.4

I did it anyway - It said "you" - I wrote down what I had been doing since I arrived in UK - Student, work, student....

and in 2.5 - I wrote down my latest "thing" i am doing and continued on page 13...additional info


the woman at the NCS office did not say anything...she was happy with it - but do take your EEA National Passport and details on how they were exercising their treaty rights... - I did not take mine and the NCS officer said UKBA may write to me to ask for this information...

Hope this helps.

PS My application was sent today!

dz_nostalgia wrote:

leoleo wrote:Hi All,

I also have a question in regards to questions [b]2.4 - 2.5 on AN form[/b].
I'm a no-EEA family member of EEA national.
Do I have to fill in my information in 2.4 clause in order to state on what basis I was in the UK for the last six years? If so, why do they have clause 2.5 asking for almost the same information?
That's so confusing....

Can anyone please share their experience? Thank you.

i am actually wondering about the same question 2.4, i had PR but i am not an EEA family member anymore since i have divorced. do i need to tick this, looking at it logically i dont need to but i am not sure of other people's experience.

[quote="VSAndroid"]Hey, I was in the same situation. I am a non-eea family member too. I got so confused with this question.

I think if you are not a EEA national yourself and have held PR for 1 year you don't need to fill out 2.4

I did it anyway - It said "you" - I wrote down what I had been doing since I arrived in UK - Student, work, student....

and in 2.5 - I wrote down my latest "thing" i am doing and continued on page 13...additional info


the woman at the NCS office did not say anything...she was happy with it - but do take your EEA National Passport and details on how they were exercising their treaty rights... - I did not take mine and the NCS officer said UKBA may write to me to ask for this information...

Hope this helps.

PS My application was sent today!

since i have divorced from EU national spouse (the HO knows about this and issued me with a PR since) i feel i dont need to fill in this section since i am not an EU citizen neither a family member...

with regards to the BC application , I have a question and I will appreciate if experienced members of this forum could guide me. The question is as follows:

during the last 5 years I used to live with one of my friends for 6 months, and she paid the council tax during this period . my name was not regestered. i don't what ihave to do with this problem. I have other bills covering this period but not the council tax.
I appreciate your help

Thanks

mego

londonfemale wrote:Hi
Well, it seems to me nobody knows whose detail required in clause 2.4.But I think Non Eea details required for 2.4 and detail of Eea in 2.5.Again not sure if anyone can help we will be very thankful.
And does anyone knows if homeoffice advicer can help with filling form if I call on their given Contact Number.

Hi, I did not feel any details, as i beleive it is only for those who applying without getting PR sticker. Since i had this sticker, I have applied on normal basis, so I personally do not think 2.4 and 2.5 are appricable. Anyway, lets see what UKBA think about this.

Hi all,

I am now in the process of applying for Naturalisation as the main applicant (not applying as joint due to wife being in the country less than 5 years)

I have filled in the Form AN (September 2010 it states at the bottom of the front sheet).

Was very useful to read the sticky to answer some of the Qs i had - thanks to all the people who asked questions and answerd

Now my unique question Applying through NCS, form AN doesnt have a section asking for credit card details for HO fees - how do I present this details?

Also, I am taking completed form AN, passport, Life in the UK cert, driv licen + counterpart, NI card, one pay slip + bank statement to the NCS office - Is this conclusive?

Thanks,

S.

Here is the link to download the payment slip:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... ntslip.pdf

Check both at the end of the application form and guide to see what are all the documents you need to take along with you to NCS. It varies with criteria in which you apply for the naturalization. The sheet at the end of the application where you can check-list all the required documents will be very helpful.

shs213 wrote:Hi all,

I am now in the process of applying for Naturalisation as the main applicant (not applying as joint due to wife being in the country less than 5 years)

I have filled in the Form AN (September 2010 it states at the bottom of the front sheet).

Was very useful to read the sticky to answer some of the Qs i had - thanks to all the people who asked questions and answerd

Now my unique question Applying through NCS, form AN doesnt have a section asking for credit card details for HO fees - how do I present this details?

Also, I am taking completed form AN, passport, Life in the UK cert, driv licen + counterpart, NI card, one pay slip + bank statement to the NCS office - Is this conclusive?

Thanks,

S.

Excellent - Many thanks...

I'm taking the above said items in addition to the required as per the last sheet in the application form...

Let me know if there are any other "just in case" paper work people usually take in with them...

thanks again!!

nax_72 wrote:Here is the link to download the payment slip:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... ntslip.pdf


S.

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If you have used any other ID apart from your passport while taking the exam, take that ID as well.

shs213 wrote:Excellent - Many thanks...

I'm taking the above said items in addition to the required as per the last sheet in the application form...

Let me know if there are any other "just in case" paper work people usually take in with them...

thanks again!!

nax_72 wrote:Here is the link to download the payment slip:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... ntslip.pdf


S.

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My current employment ends at the end of July 2011 and will be looking for a job. I have to submit my application [NCS appointment on 2nd August]. I have a question regarding section 3.

Section 3.1 - What is the best response to 'What is your occupation?'
Section 3.2 - are you a. an employee; b. a business partner; c. self employed?; d. A Director?
Section 3.3 - Name of the employer or business
Section 3.4 - Address of the employer or business
Section 3.5 - Address of tax office or tax office reference.

I will really appreciate your help in responding to these questions.

Thank you.

Hi,
I have a little bit different question than previous ones. My referee put in her job title instead of profession and I asked her to add profession (accountant) to it to make sure it will be accepted. But now it's so long it's outside the field on the form.

Do you think it will be a problem? I searched internet and couldn't find anything about it. In guide to the form and on the form there's nothing about writing outside boxes when filling the form.

I would be happy to get my referees to fill in the form again but I'm having trouble to contact one of them and I'm not sure I will be able to do this before NCS meeting. Unfortunately I don't know any other British Citizen who knows me at least 3 years so I can't ask anyone else to be my referee.

Should I call Home Office and ask them directly? I can't call NCS because in Wandsworth you only get reception for Register Office, you can't talk to anyone over the phone.

Any advice?

serendepity wrote:Hi,
I have a little bit different question than previous ones. My referee put in her job title instead of profession and I asked her to add profession (accountant) to it to make sure it will be accepted. But now it's so long it's outside the field on the form.

Do you think it will be a problem? I searched internet and couldn't find anything about it. In guide to the form and on the form there's nothing about writing outside boxes when filling the form.

I would be happy to get my referees to fill in the form again but I'm having trouble to contact one of them and I'm not sure I will be able to do this before NCS meeting. Unfortunately I don't know any other British Citizen who knows me at least 3 years so I can't ask anyone else to be my referee.

Should I call Home Office and ask them directly? I can't call NCS because in Wandsworth you only get reception for Register Office, you can't talk to anyone over the phone.

Any advice?

For first, there is no need to write down the actual profession of the referee. He just needs to hold that profession.
You are fine writing outside the boxes for naturalisation applications but be aware that when applying for passport (in future), IPS are much more strict.

Thanks for your reply. I heard that someone's visa request was refused because he wrote outside boxes. That's why I'm asking.

I will try to get to referees to sign the form again. I'm just a little stressed about not being able to contact one of them. I have 3 more days to get to him.

serendepity wrote:Thanks for your reply. I heard that someone's visa request was refused because he wrote outside boxes. That's why I'm asking.

I will try to get to referees to sign the form again. I'm just a little stressed about not being able to contact one of them. I have 3 more days to get to him.

Naturalisation applications are less strict compared to visa applications. During the NCS appointment, the advisor kept on writing outside the boxes all the time.

Thanks for your reply. I heard that someone's visa request was refused because he wrote outside boxes. That's why I'm asking.

I will try to get to referees to sign the form again. I'm just a little stressed about not being able to contact one of them. I have 3 more days to get to him.

Youre asked to stay inside the boxes as these are scanned, hence any vital information outside the box may get left out.

So if its vital info, then you need to stay in the box and I would have the form filled again, if its trivial info, then leave it as it is.

Vital info= signature, name etc

gidoc wrote:

Thanks for your reply. I heard that someone's visa request was refused because he wrote outside boxes. That's why I'm asking.

I will try to get to referees to sign the form again. I'm just a little stressed about not being able to contact one of them. I have 3 more days to get to him.

Youre asked to stay inside the boxes as these are scanned, hence any vital information outside the box may get left out.

So if its vital info, then you need to stay in the box and I would have the form filled again, if its trivial info, then leave it as it is.

Vital info= signature, name etc

But the form is scanned as a whole, not just the boxes (at least this was the case 2 years ago). I doubt the HO modify their scanning software every time they update the form. It is just easier to scan the full page.

For passport applications this is different as the scanned signature gets printed on the passport (and that's why you are asked on the passport application to stay inside the box).

gidoc wrote:
Youre asked to stay inside the boxes as these are scanned, hence any vital information outside the box may get left out.

So if its vital info, then you need to stay in the box and I would have the form filled again, if its trivial info, then leave it as it is.

Vital info= signature, name etc

Where exactly it's stated you have to stay inside the boxes as it's scanned. It's not in the form and it's not in the guide. I did some search on the internet and couldn't find such statement. That's why I asked here.

I found such information regarding different forms: passport, driving licence etc.

I hope someone can shed some light on this ?

In section 1.1 its asking for "previous immigration and natiaonality directorate or border and immigration agency or uk border agency reference numbers"

Any ideas where i can find these numbers from ?

calimero wrote:I hope someone can shed some light on this ?

In section 1.1 its asking for "previous immigration and natiaonality directorate or border and immigration agency or uk border agency reference numbers"

Any ideas where i can find these numbers from ?

If you don't have it from previous letters from the HO, just leave blank.