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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by nadworks » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:26 am

alterhase58 wrote:
Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:00 am
There is no "fast" option for naturalisation, no premium or same day service. Naturalisation is not an immigration application, it comes under British Nationality laws. UKVI quote a six months processing time, but it could be as little as little as one to three months. For the rest of the questions I recommend you start with the links in this topic:
british-citizenship/new-uk-visa-and-cit ... 67059.html
I second that. You will never get application feedback for naturalisation within 24hours. The "new service" is just a facilitator since the HO are out of their depth to process all these visa, perm.res. and citizenship applications. The decision is still being made at the HO and their process has not changed.

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by amjadleeds » Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:26 am

Hi Everyone,
Please I need advice , I have applied British Citizenship for my wife via online application form A1 and for my son on form MN1, I have made the payment after making payment, I tried to book the appointment but message came technical error, so not manage to book the appointment, Luckily I have saved form in PDF format and evidence of payments, But unfortunate now I tried to login their is not record of applications form or record and even not received any email for confirmation.
Please your valuable advice will be highly appreciated,
Best regards
Amjad from Leeds

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by amjadleeds » Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:44 pm

Hi Everyone,
Please I need advice , I have applied British Citizenship for my wife via online application form A1 and for my son on form MN1, I have made the payment after making payment, I tried to book the appointment but message came technical error, so not manage to book the appointment, Luckily I have saved form in PDF format and evidence of payments, But unfortunate now I tried to login their is not record of applications form or record and even not received any email for confirmation.
Please your valuable advice will be highly appreciated,
Best regards
Amjad from Leeds

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Hioru » Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:12 pm

Does anyone know how long can we still use the old system?

I will be applying mid January.

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by alterhase58 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:31 pm

Hioru wrote:
Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:12 pm
Does anyone know how long can we still use the old system?

I will be applying mid January.
I believe by then it will only be the new provider for submissions.
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Diaeddin » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:58 pm

Hi
Regarding the application for British citizenship through the way of being married to a BC.
What sort of documents are required to proof my marriage to a BC ?
My Marriage was registered abroad and I did not get it registered in the UK.

your advice is much appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by alterhase58 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:52 pm

Diaeddin wrote:
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Hi
Regarding the application for British citizenship through the way of being married to a BC.
What sort of documents are required to proof my marriage to a BC ?
My Marriage was registered abroad and I did not get it registered in the UK.

your advice is much appreciated.

Thanks
You have to provide the marriage certificate and spouse's British passport. A marriage does not have to be registered in the UK.
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Sogard » Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:53 pm

Hi to all the immigration gurus,

Can you please tell me whether, under the new online application, one can apply for both naturalisation and passport at the same time?

I am aware that this was possible under the old system (via NCS). However, after searching, it is not clear to me whether this is still an available option under the new system.

Thank you all!

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by CR001 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:56 pm

Sogard wrote:
Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:53 pm
Hi to all the immigration gurus,

Can you please tell me whether, under the new online application, one can apply for both naturalisation and passport at the same time?

I am aware that this was possible under the old system (via NCS). However, after searching, it is not clear to me whether this is still an available option under the new system.

Thank you all!
No you can't. You will only be able to apply for a passport once you have attended your ceremony.
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by citizenearth » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:05 pm

I am applying on Wed so o you advise that I use the new method or the old way? It seems the feedback is not good from the new method.

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Gena » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:03 pm

Good evening everyone! Many thanks for such great website. Please could I ask a question about traveling after application?

I have applied online on 14 November using Nationality Document Returns Service in my local council. Can I travel while I wait for the decision? I know it now says here https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ukvis-new-f ... pplication that if you apply after 2nd November and use the new service you can’t travel, but what about the old one?

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by CR001 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:04 pm

Gena wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:03 pm
Good evening everyone! Many thanks for such great website. Please could I ask a question about traveling after application?

I have applied online on 14 November using Nationality Document Returns Service in my local council. Can I travel while I wait for the decision? I know it now says here https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ukvis-new-f ... pplication that if you apply after 2nd November and use the new service you can’t travel, but what about the old one?

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You are free to travel. What you have quoted is relevant to visa and ILR applications only and not naturalisation!
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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by Gena » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:07 pm

CR001 wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:04 pm
Gena wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:03 pm
Good evening everyone! Many thanks for such great website. Please could I ask a question about traveling after application?

I have applied online on 14 November using Nationality Document Returns Service in my local council. Can I travel while I wait for the decision? I know it now says here https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ukvis-new-f ... pplication that if you apply after 2nd November and use the new service you can’t travel, but what about the old one?

Thank you.
You are free to travel. What you have quoted is relevant to visa and ILR applications only and not naturalisation!
Thank you very much for your prompt reply!

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by johnhkg » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:09 pm

Gena wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:03 pm
Good evening everyone! Many thanks for such great website. Please could I ask a question about traveling after application?

I have applied online on 14 November using Nationality Document Returns Service in my local council. Can I travel while I wait for the decision? I know it now says here https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ukvis-new-f ... pplication that if you apply after 2nd November and use the new service you can’t travel, but what about the old one?

Thank you.
That link you provided does not apply to applications for naturalisation. You are free to travel.

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by juliaBristol » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:56 pm

Hi All,

Just had my Sopra appointment today. Had a first appointment of the day - 10am, the whole process took 1.5 hours. Taking my photograph took a while - system didn't like the lighting/shadows. Fingerprints were quicker. The rest of my appointment was scanning and uploading documents. Sopra employees were very nice, but they are also learning on the fly. All along, I was planning to submit paper application - with document check service . Therefore, my referees signatures were obtained in October and November on the old form (they live in different part of the country, total 12 hours of driving to get those precious signatures). When I called to book appointment ''old-fashioned way'' in the end of November, I was delighted to learn that local services are all booked up, and there's a new process.. Hope my referee info on the old form will be OK with the government

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by amjadleeds » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:37 pm

baerli wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:15 am
Hi

Just want to check the progress of your application, Have you received any decision yet or not,
Best regards
Amjad from leeds


Hi,

thank you for the information.
Do I understand it right that you got a confirmation of receipt of your information on the first working day after online submission and before you had submitted your documents?
I was a bit shocked to notice that I only got a receipt for the payment when I submitted yesterday but not for receipt of the application.

Does anybody else know what determines the "receipt of the application" by the Home Office? It matters to me since I was on holiday 5 years ago around this time, but not on the day of the online submission nor on the date I submitted my docs via the National Document Return Service but on two days afterwards, so I really need to know when the Home Office acknowledges receipt.

Thank you Baerli

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Hey, shakeerahT thank you for the information, I am just filling in the application myself as well - super easy but got stuck on the attaching of the documents, more specifically the photograph.

Can I assume you send over a photograph of yourself with the full name and date of birth on the back as required in the paper application? Couldn't see anything mentioning the photograph in the Document Checklist at the end of the application.

For those that are choosing the online application route, this is the 'Documents' part of the application that I see - sharing this info as tax :) hoping this helps!

Mandatory documents

These documents are mandatory and you must provide them as part of your application. Tick the box to agree that you will provide each document: (Required)

1) The passport issued by (Applicant's Country) for (Name of Applicant)

Other documents

If you do not provide these documents, your application may be delayed or refused. (Required)

2) (Name of Applicant)'s Life in the UK Test pass notification

3) Proof of living in the UK for (Name of Applicant)

If you are an EEA National, you need to include letters from employers, educational establishments, or other Government Departments indicating your presence in the United Kingdom during the relevant period.

If you are an Non-EEA National, you need to include your passport to prove you have lived in the UK for the past 5 years (3 years if you're married to, or the partner of, a British citizen).

If you don't have your passport, or it wasn't stamped when you entered the UK, you need to include letters (for example, from your employer or government department) as proof.

Bank statements or household bills are not suitable proof you've been living in the UK.

4) Two referee declarations for (Name of Applicant)

5) (Name of Applicant)'s evidence of identity
You must include one of the following:
* your passport
* your national identity card
* your Home Office travel document
* your Home Office entitlement card
* your Home Office ARC letter
* your BRP card
* your birth certificate
* your driving licence

You must include evidence you have legally changed your name if it is now different to the one on your supporting document.

If you took the Life in the UK Test and used one of the above documents as evidence, you should use the same one here.

6)(Name of Applicant)'s proof of Nationality
You must include your:
* passport or EEA national identity card
* UK permanent residence card
* evidence of freedom from immigration time restrictions

You must have a permanent residence card before you can apply for citizenship Apply for a permanent residence card.
Please note I have numbered the above for clarity, however, some of the documents overlap (e.g. can be covered by passport/EEA national identity card).

I can also see that the requirement for English language test is not present on my application as I have shown my degree for my Permanent Residence. Might be different for other applicants.

Thank you,
Hi, daisyd the photos required will be attached to the printed referees declarations. in this case, you ll need two passport photos, because you will print out one declaration per referee.
I go through this website daily for guidance , so its only fair to share my exeperience with others who may get help from it.


my current Timeline at the moment :
I submitted my online application on christmas eve
On the 27th - day after boxing day, i registered my biometrics at the post office, posted off my supporting documents and also received an email from HO confirming receipt of application.

Although it is not specifically requested in the online application, it is requested on the AN guide which the online application still refers you to. i would say still attach it to your supporting documentation and just highlight that you used it in your application for settlement.

let us know how yours goes. :)

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by mexisd » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:21 am

Hi everyone,

Just to give my experience so far. I had my apointment yesterday. They were running a bit behind schedule, so I had to wait 2h. It only took 20min for me. I had scanned everything and already uploaded it, so they only had to take my biometrics (picture, finger prints) and verify my details. They didn’t keep the passport (it was not clear from everything I had read). I guess now it is up to the Home Office.

I think it makes sense for everyone using this Online application to scan their documents and upload them before the apointment.The guy before me was there for 1.5h ecause he had 100 documents to scan.

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Post by CR001 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:34 am

Can members please NOT post 'new system experience' posts in this topic and keep it ONLY for online application form queries. There are already existing running topics for all experience posts, please post there.

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by arovbukay » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:18 am

mexisd wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:21 am
Hi everyone,

Just to give my experience so far. I had my apointment yesterday. They were running a bit behind schedule, so I had to wait 2h. It only took 20min for me. I had scanned everything and already uploaded it, so they only had to take my biometrics (picture, finger prints) and verify my details. They didn’t keep the passport (it was not clear from everything I had read). I guess now it is up to the Home Office.

I think it makes sense for everyone using this Online application to scan their documents and upload them before the apointment.The guy before me was there for 1.5h ecause he had 100 documents to scan.
Hi Mexisd,

Which office did you go to? did you receive any sort of confirmation that you had scanned and submitted your application? Any indication of timeframe on decision or how they will inform you?

thanks

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by bbreddy » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:30 pm

Hi All,

We are about to make an application shortly, and have the following queries in relation the new online app form.

(1) When will we be able to 'register' for booking online appointments in the website -https://www.ukvcas.co.uk

There is only login option, but no such option to 'register'. Will an account be automatically created after submitting our online application form? What login shall we use? is it the same login as used for naturalisation app form?

(2) Reading from other posts/forums, it appears that the experience with the new system is not very great. Is this the only way of applying now?

(3) Does anyone have any info on the timelines with this new app form?

(4) How to apply for passport simultaneously with this new form? What's the quickest way to get it using this process?

Thank you

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by nadworks » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:22 pm

bbreddy wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:30 pm
(1) When will we be able to 'register' for booking online appointments in the website -https://www.ukvcas.co.uk
There is only login option, but no such option to 'register'. Will an account be automatically created after submitting our online application form? What login shall we use? is it the same login as used for naturalisation app form?
You will be invited to register at the end of the application process only and if you've chosen the "new system", you can still (in some instances and for a while) use the old process, too. But that's going to phase out soon.
bbreddy wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:30 pm
(2) Reading from other posts/forums, it appears that the experience with the new system is not very great. Is this the only way of applying now?
You might still have the option to choose the old process, but won't know until you reach the final application step.
bbreddy wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:30 pm
(3) Does anyone have any info on the timelines with this new app form?
I wouldn't think so, since it's only just been introduced in November and is being launched gradually.
bbreddy wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:30 pm
(4) How to apply for passport simultaneously with this new form? What's the quickest way to get it using this process?
You can't. Apparently, you'll have to wait until you are accepted... possibly even until you've had your ceremony until you can apply for a passport.

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by bbreddy » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:30 pm

Thank you very much. I just can't understand why the HO increases fees, but removes the existing services?

It just so seems like the rail fares these days. Pay more & more to get less & less service...

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by mexisd » Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:49 pm

arovbukay wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:18 am
Hi Mexisd,

Which office did you go to? did you receive any sort of confirmation that you had scanned and submitted your application? Any indication of timeframe on decision or how they will inform you?

thanks
Hi arovbukay,

I went to the one in the Barbican Library in London. No confirmation that my application was submitted or any indication of timeframes. They just showed me the screen when they pressed the submit button. For timeframes I think it would be impossible for them to know. It is up to Home Office.

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by eu_applicant » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:22 pm

Did anyone get an application approval after using the new system?

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Re: British Citizenship - New Online Application

Post by alterhase58 » Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:53 pm

eu_applicant wrote:
Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:22 pm
Did anyone get an application approval after using the new system?
The "new system" is only for the submission of applications - UKVI are still responsible for processing and deciding applications.Nothing has changed there.
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