Citizenship application refused and reconsideration

Hafid wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:29 pm

Hi Everybody,
I hope all of you are well and safe.

I received email from the Home office after I send them email requesting the progress of my reconsideration application made on 2017.
the email reply below.:

Dear sir,
Thank you for your email of 13.06.2020 regarding your application for British citizenship
Please find the response attached which is exceptionally being sent via email to avoid any delay in posting caused by the corona virus pandemic
Kind regards
Nationality Team
And the doc attached ((( We have received your request for a reconsideration of your naturalisation application and your following e-mail on 13 June 2020. As soon as we are in a position to reach a decision we will notify you accordingly.
Yours sincerely, Nationality Team)))

Any Idea what does these letter means ? .
I was going to send letter in the next few days asking for judicial review if not get reply to my rconsidration application , shall I go ahead with or wait more time ? . it is now two years passed.

Kind regards

Appreciate your help

Hafid

CR001 wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:34 pm

Users reason for refusal below for members to understand circumstances.

Hafid wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:37 pm

Hi All,

I applied for naturalization in 2014 and after received refusal letter in Feb 2017 on Good Character condition.
The letter saying that you were in your country working with a party that has had criminal against humanity so according to that you may be involved with ?!. Is this right?! how they make the decision according to suspicious and not concentrate evidence?
I received letter last month saying that if you want reconsideration you have to pay the £320 for fees and also they mentioned to 6-month waiting period
I am working and paying tax in this country. I have not have any criminal records.

I applied for reconsideration and paid the fees now and waiting for a reply ?

I do not know how long should I have to wait? maybe 2 years or 3 years again ?!

Any idea, please ?

Kind Regards

Maxmilan wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:49 pm

Hafid wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:29 pm

Hi Everybody,
I hope all of you are well and safe.

I received email from the Home office after I send them email requesting the progress of my reconsideration application made on 2017.
the email reply below.:

Dear sir,
Thank you for your email of 13.06.2020 regarding your application for British citizenship
Please find the response attached which is exceptionally being sent via email to avoid any delay in posting caused by the corona virus pandemic
Kind regards
Nationality Team
And the doc attached ((( We have received your request for a reconsideration of your naturalisation application and your following e-mail on 13 June 2020. As soon as we are in a position to reach a decision we will notify you accordingly.
Yours sincerely, Nationality Team)))

Any Idea what does these letter means ? .
I was going to send letter in the next few days asking for judicial review if not get reply to my rconsidration application , shall I go ahead with or wait more time ? . it is now two years passed.

Kind regards

Appreciate your help

Hafid

CR001 wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:34 pm

Users reason for refusal below for members to understand circumstances.

Hafid wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:37 pm

Hi All,

I applied for naturalization in 2014 and after received refusal letter in Feb 2017 on Good Character condition.
The letter saying that you were in your country working with a party that has had criminal against humanity so according to that you may be involved with ?!. Is this right?! how they make the decision according to suspicious and not concentrate evidence?
I received letter last month saying that if you want reconsideration you have to pay the £320 for fees and also they mentioned to 6-month waiting period
I am working and paying tax in this country. I have not have any criminal records.

I applied for reconsideration and paid the fees now and waiting for a reply ?

I do not know how long should I have to wait? maybe 2 years or 3 years again ?!

Any idea, please ?

Kind Regards

Hi Hafid

I received exactly the same email as you 4 days ago. I am going to send a Pre-action Protocol for a judicial review to the HO in next few days after 14 months waiting for reconsideration.

Thank you
Maxmilan

Maxmilan wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:49 pm

Hafid wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:29 pm

Hi Everybody,
I hope all of you are well and safe.

I received email from the Home office after I send them email requesting the progress of my reconsideration application made on 2017.
the email reply below.:

Dear sir,
Thank you for your email of 13.06.2020 regarding your application for British citizenship
Please find the response attached which is exceptionally being sent via email to avoid any delay in posting caused by the corona virus pandemic
Kind regards
Nationality Team
And the doc attached ((( We have received your request for a reconsideration of your naturalisation application and your following e-mail on 13 June 2020. As soon as we are in a position to reach a decision we will notify you accordingly.
Yours sincerely, Nationality Team)))

Any Idea what does these letter means ? .
I was going to send letter in the next few days asking for judicial review if not get reply to my rconsidration application , shall I go ahead with or wait more time ? . it is now two years passed.

Kind regards

Appreciate your help

Hafid

CR001 wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:34 pm

Users reason for refusal below for members to understand circumstances.

Hafid wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:37 pm

Hi All,

I applied for naturalization in 2014 and after received refusal letter in Feb 2017 on Good Character condition.
The letter saying that you were in your country working with a party that has had criminal against humanity so according to that you may be involved with ?!. Is this right?! how they make the decision according to suspicious and not concentrate evidence?
I received letter last month saying that if you want reconsideration you have to pay the £320 for fees and also they mentioned to 6-month waiting period
I am working and paying tax in this country. I have not have any criminal records.

I applied for reconsideration and paid the fees now and waiting for a reply ?

I do not know how long should I have to wait? maybe 2 years or 3 years again ?!

Any idea, please ?

Kind Regards

Hi Hafid

I received exactly the same email as you 4 days ago. I am going to send a Pre-action Protocol for a judicial review to the HO in next few days after 14 months waiting for reconsideration.

Thank you
Maxmilan

Maxmilan wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:13 pm

Hi Hafid

My Solicitor just attached some documents which I sent with my reconsideration grounds and asked the HO for the reconsideration's result. My solicitor believed that we don't need to point about all of refusal reason this time.
thanks
Maxmilan

CULLINAN wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:19 am

Good luck you both. Fight through. All the best. Keep us posted.

Maxmilan wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:05 am

Dear Hafid

I am sorry to hear that the HO refused your reconsideration request. I already claimed for a JR since 02/10/2020. But before the JR claim, I asked an Expert from my country to make an Expert Report about my case. The Expert made the report which was very helpful and supported my case. I then sent the Expert Report with a last PAP letter to the HO. But because the HO didn't response to the last PAP with the report so I claimed for the JR. Two days ago the Court sent me a letter to me and informed me that the HO agreed to withdraw my Naturalisation Refusal and offered to reconsider my Naturalisation application again in light of new Expert Report as a new evidence but before they could reconsider my application again the HO asked my to withdraw my JR claim. So the HO wants to make a deal with me and offered to reconsider my application and I have to withdraw my JR claim instead.

To be honest I can not tell if it is good sign or not and if the HO's offer will result a positive out come or not but I asked my Barrister and my Barrister advised me that it is better for me to withdraw my JR claim and let the HO to reconsider my application.

If you want to claim for a JR you must do it maximum in 3 months of the reconsideration date not the PAP date.

I hope my explanation could help and you and me both will get a good news soon.

Regards
Maxmilan 30/10/2020

Maxmilan wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:07 am

Dear Hafid

The Expert is originally from my country but living in the UK and all the Experts who are allowed to make an Expert Report are trusted by the UK Courts and the HO. All Solicitors and Barrister know the Experts in the UK and know how to contact with them. You can not contact with the Expert yourself and it is not allowed so if you need an Expert Report on your case you have to ask a Solicitor or a Barrister to do that for cost.

Just be careful in my case the Expert Report was helpful and supported my case but sometimes the Expert Report may be make the case weaker as all of the Experts are individual and they are telling their view not what we like. So if you want to ask your Solicitor to contact with an Expert first make sure that report can support your case.

Hope this helps

Maxmilan wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:26 am

Dear Hafid

You should make the Report before the JR claim and send it with a new PAP and give the HO enough time to have a look at it.

Remember you have to mind the 3 months time limit which starts from the Reconsideration refusal so before that 3 months pass you need to ask your Solicitor if an Expert Report can support your case, then if your Solicitor agree with making an Expert Report he/she has to find an Expert then make sure the report will come back to you quickly as you need to send the report with a new PAP and give the HO enough time before that 3 months pass.

Thank you

Maxmilan

Maxmilan wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:44 am

Dear Hafid

Good luck with your case and pray for me please.

Thanks
Maxmilan

Hafid wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:52 pm

Maxmilan wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:44 am

Dear Hafid

Good luck with your case and pray for me please.

Thanks
Maxmilan

Dear Maxmilan,

I meet my solicitor yesterday and asked him to make a new PAP and provide an expert report. He believes that this will not work and the best thing to do is to go to JR and provides an expert report?
He thought that HO will not reply and we have to go back to JR at the end. He means the cost will be doubled to the client (me). means I have to pay for the new PAP and then JR ....

What do you think? Is this the right way or you think that going to JR will complicate the case?

Kind regards
Hafid

London22 wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:45 pm

Hafid wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:52 pm

Maxmilan wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:44 am

Dear Hafid

Good luck with your case and pray for me please.

Thanks
Maxmilan

Dear Maxmilan,

I meet my solicitor yesterday and asked him to make a new PAP and provide an expert report. He believes that this will not work and the best thing to do is to go to JR and provides an expert report?
He thought that HO will not reply and we have to go back to JR at the end. He means the cost will be doubled to the client (me). means I have to pay for the new PAP and then JR ....

What do you think? Is this the right way or you think that going to JR will complicate the case?

Kind regards
Hafid

Hi Hafid
JR is your last & best resort to get justice.Your solicitor is exactly right to launch JR.JR is a request to an i dependent judge of high court to decide whether HO is wrong in its decision.If you have an intelligent & friendly judge you might win the case.In nationality application HO however has a wide range of discretion but still the judge will only look at whether HO is right or wrong.Judge will see evidence.If HO doesnt have a genuine eveidence to suspect your character you might likely win JR.
Goodluck

Hafid wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:04 pm

London22 wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:45 pm

Hafid wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:52 pm

Maxmilan wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:44 am

Dear Hafid

Good luck with your case and pray for me please.

Thanks
Maxmilan

Dear Maxmilan,

I meet my solicitor yesterday and asked him to make a new PAP and provide an expert report. He believes that this will not work and the best thing to do is to go to JR and provides an expert report?
He thought that HO will not reply and we have to go back to JR at the end. He means the cost will be doubled to the client (me). means I have to pay for the new PAP and then JR ....

What do you think? Is this the right way or you think that going to JR will complicate the case?

Kind regards
Hafid

Hi Hafid
JR is your last & best resort to get justice.Your solicitor is exactly right to launch JR.JR is a request to an i dependent judge of high court to decide whether HO is wrong in its decision.If you have an intelligent & friendly judge you might win the case.In nationality application HO however has a wide range of discretion but still the judge will only look at whether HO is right or wrong.Judge will see evidence.If HO doesnt have a genuine eveidence to suspect your character you might likely win JR.
Goodluck

Hi London22,
Many thanks for your reply. What if the judge agreed with the HO decision. Am I still be able to appeal?
Kind regards
Hafid

London22 wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:06 pm

Hafid wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:04 pm

London22 wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:45 pm

Hafid wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:52 pm

Dear Maxmilan,

I meet my solicitor yesterday and asked him to make a new PAP and provide an expert report. He believes that this will not work and the best thing to do is to go to JR and provides an expert report?
He thought that HO will not reply and we have to go back to JR at the end. He means the cost will be doubled to the client (me). means I have to pay for the new PAP and then JR ....

What do you think? Is this the right way or you think that going to JR will complicate the case?

Kind regards
Hafid

Hi Hafid
JR is your last & best resort to get justice.Your solicitor is exactly right to launch JR.JR is a request to an i dependent judge of high court to decide whether HO is wrong in its decision.If you have an intelligent & friendly judge you might win the case.In nationality application HO however has a wide range of discretion but still the judge will only look at whether HO is right or wrong.Judge will see evidence.If HO doesnt have a genuine eveidence to suspect your character you might likely win JR.
Goodluck

Hi London22,
Many thanks for your reply. What if the judge agreed with the HO decision. Am I still be able to appeal?
Kind regards
Hafid

JR is a huge platform to sort out complicated issues like yours .Judge's decision will not be final & in some cases it can go to court of appeal depending on the nature of case & who loses & who wins.Your case is a perfect example for JR & in my view you should win if your character is clean.If HO has evidence then they will win.No one can win without evidence.Your evidence will be your good character & to show this you should make a statement of all good deeds you have done or doing in UK .

Maxmilan wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:27 pm

Dear Hafid

I do not agree with your Solicitor or some body who gave you a wrong advice as I experienced that way which your Solicitor told you. I did what your Solicitor told you and Claim for JR with an Expert Report. The HO replied that because their wasn't any Expert Report before the refusal decision and they haven't seen that, so offered to reconsider my case in light of the Expert Report and the Court was agreed with the HO and mentioned that because the HO already offered to reconsider my case so there is no point to continue with the JR claim. It means that this is more likely that I will lose £5000 which I paid for JR claim, Expert Report, Solicitor and the Barrister. But if you send the Expert Report with a new PAP and give the HO enough opportunity to consider the Expert Report, then the HO can not say that they haven't seen the Expert Report.

Thank you
Maximilan

Maxmilan wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:27 pm

Dear Hafid

I do not agree with your Solicitor or some body who gave you a wrong advice as I experienced that way which your Solicitor told you. I did what your Solicitor told you and Claim for JR with an Expert Report. The HO replied that because their wasn't any Expert Report before the refusal decision and they haven't seen that, so offered to reconsider my case in light of the Expert Report and the Court was agreed with the HO and mentioned that because the HO already offered to reconsider my case so there is no point to continue with the JR claim. It means that this is more likely that I will lose £5000 which I paid for JR claim, Expert Report, Solicitor and the Barrister. But if you send the Expert Report with a new PAP and give the HO enough opportunity to consider the Expert Report, then the HO can not say that they haven't seen the Expert Report.

Thank you
Maximilan

Dear Maximilan,

I hope you are well and safe. I am wondering whether you have received a reply from HO regarding your case after the court allowed your JR ? . For my case my solicitor send JR letter with the Expert report this week and I hope will get a good response from them? although I do not know how long will take to get a decision from the court?

Kind regards

Hafid