General discussion on CSI and Settled Status. Big issues for people on the EEA-Applications Routes

Thank you very much everybody. For those who’ve asked: I’ve been a student and self-sufficient since I arrived in the UK in 2012. I submitted the application on 5 Feb and gave fingerprints a week later.

Lnlan10 wrote: ↑

Thu May 28, 2020 4:06 pm

Thank you very much everybody. For those who’ve asked: I’ve been a student and self-sufficient since I arrived in the UK in 2012. I submitted the application on 5 Feb and gave fingerprints a week later.

Thank you for your reply. Wish you all the best

Lnlan10 wrote: ↑

Thu May 28, 2020 4:06 pm

Thank you very much everybody. For those who’ve asked: I’ve been a student and self-sufficient since I arrived in the UK in 2012. I submitted the application on 5 Feb and gave fingerprints a week later.

First of congratulations!

It means you didn’t have CSI in that 8 years, but would have needed it?

Lnlan10 wrote: ↑

Thu May 28, 2020 4:06 pm

Thank you very much everybody. For those who’ve asked: I’ve been a student and self-sufficient since I arrived in the UK in 2012. I submitted the application on 5 Feb and gave fingerprints a week later.

Thanks for the info. All the best !

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Post by beaujam90 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:42 pm

Arrived in uk: 30/06/89
DCPR applied: 04/12/15 || DCPR received:
Degree English: 26/08/1998 || Life in UK: 16/10/2015
Citizenship applied:


This is my first post on immigrationboards.
I was about to apply for BC on the 16th November 2015, the the register officer told me that the Citizenship law have changed on November 12th, just few days before. The new rule was that EEA needed to apply first for the DCPR card ( Document Certifying Permanent Residence ) and send it with the BC application.
I did apply 3 times for the DCPR , and I even appealed the last refusal but still couldn't get it approved.
The first time I waited from December 2015 to August 2016, the seconds was over 4 months wait. The third time was 5 months and for the appeal was 4 months. You can't imagine the stress the HO gave me. The first time I applied, I had to write to the HO to ask for my passport for them to send me the passport with the refusal letter that they have already written 7 months before . They make me wait for nothing for over 7 months.
4 years 3 months later I got the settled status. One year later I applied for the BC and I have been waiting for a result for over 4 months now

Frou01 wrote: ↑

Thu May 28, 2020 4:41 pm

Lnlan10 wrote: ↑

Thu May 28, 2020 4:06 pm

Thank you very much everybody. For those who’ve asked: I’ve been a student and self-sufficient since I arrived in the UK in 2012. I submitted the application on 5 Feb and gave fingerprints a week later.

First of congratulations!

It means you didn’t have CSI in that 8 years, but would have needed it?

Thanks. It is a bit more complicated: I had CSI via my Italian EHIC, but my wallet was stolen in 2013, so had no chance to prove it until I received a new card later on in the year. I also had a dependent family member insurance through my father, but only managed to obtain information for two of the past six years.

In short, while I had it, it would have been awkward to prove I had it.

Lnlan10 wrote: ↑

Fri May 29, 2020 8:48 am

Frou01 wrote: ↑

Thu May 28, 2020 4:41 pm

Lnlan10 wrote: ↑

Thu May 28, 2020 4:06 pm

Thank you very much everybody. For those who’ve asked: I’ve been a student and self-sufficient since I arrived in the UK in 2012. I submitted the application on 5 Feb and gave fingerprints a week later.

First of congratulations!

It means you didn’t have CSI in that 8 years, but would have needed it?

Thanks. It is a bit more complicated: I had CSI via my Italian EHIC, but my wallet was stolen in 2013, so had no chance to prove it until I received a new card later on in the year. I also had a dependent family member insurance through my father, but only managed to obtain information for two of the past six years.

In short, while I had it, it would have been awkward to prove I had it.

I means you actually were covered, but you didn’t provide anything with your application or saying in your cover letter and also weren’t asked to?

Hi all,

Just wanted to let you know that my application for naturalization was approved today.
I was applying via the Settle Status route and 45 days in between jobs. The HO did not request any CSI for these days.

Hope this helps giving some peace of mind for all of you waiting for a decision.

Thank you all for your help and support. Feeling that you are in this together with other people makes the waiting a little bit more palatable!

Rusland wrote: ↑

Fri May 29, 2020 12:10 pm

Hi all,

Just wanted to let you know that my application for naturalization was approved today.
I was applying via the Settle Status route and 45 days in between jobs. The HO did not request any CSI for these days.

Hope this helps giving some peace of mind for all of you waiting for a decision.

Thank you all for your help and support. Feeling that you are in this together with other people makes the waiting a little bit more palatable!

Thanks for the update! (Please fix your post on the timeline, as you wrote under the eligibility criteria "ILR" instead of "Settled Status")

Hi everyone. I'm excited to share that I just received my approval as well. I was not asked for CSI, even though I was a student without CSI for a part of my qualifying time for Settled Status.

I wholeheartedly hope that you will all receive your approvals really soon!

Thank you for your support. Don't lose your hope.

Lopand wrote: ↑

Fri May 29, 2020 12:56 pm

Hi everyone. I'm excited to share that I just received my approval as well. I was not asked for CSI, even though I was a student without CSI for a part of my qualifying time for Settled Status.

I wholeheartedly hope that you will all receive your approvals really soon!

Thank you for your support. Don't lose your hope.

Congratulations!!!!!!
The more people that get it the more hopeful I become. I wish you all the best in your journey.

Do you mind me asking how long you were a student for during your qualifying years before your settled status?

Lopand wrote: ↑

Fri May 29, 2020 12:56 pm

Hi everyone. I'm excited to share that I just received my approval as well. I was not asked for CSI, even though I was a student without CSI for a part of my qualifying time for Settled Status.

I wholeheartedly hope that you will all receive your approvals really soon!

Thank you for your support. Don't lose your hope.

Congratulations

Rusland wrote: ↑

Fri May 29, 2020 12:10 pm

Hi all,

Just wanted to let you know that my application for naturalization was approved today.
I was applying via the Settle Status route and 45 days in between jobs. The HO did not request any CSI for these days.

Hope this helps giving some peace of mind for all of you waiting for a decision.

Thank you all for your help and support. Feeling that you are in this together with other people makes the waiting a little bit more palatable!

Congratulations

Learning18 wrote: ↑

Fri May 29, 2020 1:28 pm

Lopand wrote: ↑

Fri May 29, 2020 12:56 pm

Hi everyone. I'm excited to share that I just received my approval as well. I was not asked for CSI, even though I was a student without CSI for a part of my qualifying time for Settled Status.

I wholeheartedly hope that you will all receive your approvals really soon!

Thank you for your support. Don't lose your hope.

Congratulations!!!!!!
The more people that get it the more hopeful I become. I wish you all the best in your journey.

Do you mind me asking how long you were a student for during your qualifying years before your settled status?

Thank you and all the other supportive members congratulating.

I was a Master's student in the UK from September 2013 to September 2014. Received Settled Status on February 2019. Applied for naturalisation a year after.

Lopand wrote: ↑

Fri May 29, 2020 1:33 pm

Learning18 wrote: ↑

Fri May 29, 2020 1:28 pm

Lopand wrote: ↑

Fri May 29, 2020 12:56 pm

Hi everyone. I'm excited to share that I just received my approval as well. I was not asked for CSI, even though I was a student without CSI for a part of my qualifying time for Settled Status.

I wholeheartedly hope that you will all receive your approvals really soon!

Thank you for your support. Don't lose your hope.

Congratulations!!!!!!
The more people that get it the more hopeful I become. I wish you all the best in your journey.

Do you mind me asking how long you were a student for during your qualifying years before your settled status?

Thank you and all the other supportive members congratulating.

I was a Master's student in the UK from September 2013 to September 2014. Received Settled Status on February 2019. Applied for naturalisation a year after.

Thank you for your response

Lopand wrote: ↑

Fri May 29, 2020 12:39 pm

Rusland wrote: ↑

Fri May 29, 2020 12:10 pm

Hi all,

Just wanted to let you know that my application for naturalization was approved today.
I was applying via the Settle Status route and 45 days in between jobs. The HO did not request any CSI for these days.

Hope this helps giving some peace of mind for all of you waiting for a decision.

Thank you all for your help and support. Feeling that you are in this together with other people makes the waiting a little bit more palatable!

Thanks for the update! (Please fix your post on the timeline, as you wrote under the eligibility criteria "ILR" instead of "Settled Status")

Will do! Thanks again for your kind words the other day

Rusland wrote: ↑

Fri May 29, 2020 2:08 pm

Lopand wrote: ↑

Fri May 29, 2020 12:39 pm

Rusland wrote: ↑

Fri May 29, 2020 12:10 pm

Hi all,

Just wanted to let you know that my application for naturalization was approved today.
I was applying via the Settle Status route and 45 days in between jobs. The HO did not request any CSI for these days.

Hope this helps giving some peace of mind for all of you waiting for a decision.

Thank you all for your help and support. Feeling that you are in this together with other people makes the waiting a little bit more palatable!

Thanks for the update! (Please fix your post on the timeline, as you wrote under the eligibility criteria "ILR" instead of "Settled Status")

Will do! Thanks again for your kind words the other day

Of course I told you that there's no reason to worry!

Someone said they called HO and it was said it’s only for the time the guidance is in place.
Which makes sense I’ve seen a lot of people now being approved and CSI wasn’t a topic.

However if that’s the case the guidance came out 14th of May which would mean it’s a requirement from that day on?
But two things confusing me.
The documents requirement at the form changed from 1st May on in mentions “if you spent some of that time in the UK as a student or as a self- sufficient person, and had comprehensive sickness insurance (CSI), a copy of your sickness insurance policy.”

I have seen someone being asked last month for more evidence (as only sent in Council Tax bills and they said it wasn’t enough) to get a list of documents they would accept and exactly that wording from above was included back then already.

My question is from what point this requirement is valid?

It would make sense from the time the guidance was published. Also the guidance refers to a question about CSI in the form and a box to explain why you didn’t have it. I haven’t seen that yet.

And the guidance also refers to applicants MUST provide CSI while in the wording above it says “...and you had CSI, a copy of your sickness insurance policy” which sounds different.

Here a law firm that agrees with what I was saying , read this:

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Has nothing to do with my question. That law firm isn’t Home Office and it’s again an opinion same like in articles.
Besides lots of people just got approved who would have been refused if I would believe any kind of these articles and opinions.

Again my question is from what day the new requirement
starts? Did anyone heard back from their MP or Home Office to confirm the date?

Frou01 wrote: ↑

Sat May 30, 2020 6:55 am

Has nothing to do with my question. That law firm isn’t Home Office and it’s again an opinion same like in articles.
Besides lots of people just got approved who would have been refused if I would believe any kind of these articles and opinions.

Again my question is from what day the new requirement
starts? Did anyone heard back from their MP or Home Office to confirm the date?

I wasn't answering your question

Frou01 wrote: ↑

Sat May 30, 2020 6:55 am

Has nothing to do with my question. That law firm isn’t Home Office and it’s again an opinion same like in articles.
Besides lots of people just got approved who would have been refused if I would believe any kind of these articles and opinions.

Again my question is from what day the new requirement
starts? Did anyone heard back from their MP or Home Office to confirm the date?

Were you a student during your qualifying years ? When did you arrive to the UK ?

First of all, congratulations to everyone who have gotten their citizenship applications approved!

Frou01 wrote: ↑

Sat May 30, 2020 6:55 am

Besides lots of people just got approved who would have been refused if I would believe any kind of these articles and opinions.

Again my question is from what day the new requirement starts? Did anyone heard back from their MP or Home Office to confirm the date?

Based on what the Home Office have said it seems they're arguing that CSI has always been a requirement for citizenship, and that they're just clarifying this requirement. Following from that logic, there would be no first date from which the new requirements apply - because they have "always" applied.

It's possible the caseworkers are exercising a larger degree of discretion for applications that were handed in before the new sections on EUSS and CSI were added to the guidance. If that's the case, I do hope the Home Office will be willing to look past the CSI requirement also for future citizenship applications.

beaujam90 wrote: ↑

Sat May 30, 2020 1:11 pm

Frou01 wrote: ↑

Sat May 30, 2020 6:55 am

Has nothing to do with my question. That law firm isn’t Home Office and it’s again an opinion same like in articles.
Besides lots of people just got approved who would have been refused if I would believe any kind of these articles and opinions.

Again my question is from what day the new requirement
starts? Did anyone heard back from their MP or Home Office to confirm the date?

Were you a student during your qualifying years ? When did you arrive to the UK ?

2012.
No I haven’t been a student. I have been financially supported for awhile which has reason I will at least try to explain to my caseworker. But before and afterwards
I have been in full time employment.

jpl wrote: ↑

Sat May 30, 2020 7:12 pm

First of all, congratulations to everyone who have gotten their citizenship applications approved!

Frou01 wrote: ↑

Sat May 30, 2020 6:55 am

Besides lots of people just got approved who would have been refused if I would believe any kind of these articles and opinions.

Again my question is from what day the new requirement starts? Did anyone heard back from their MP or Home Office to confirm the date?

Based on what the Home Office have said it seems they're arguing that CSI has always been a requirement for citizenship, and that they're just clarifying this requirement. Following from that logic, there would be no first date from which the new requirements apply - because they have "always" applied.

It's possible the caseworkers are exercising a larger degree of discretion for applications that were handed in before the new sections on EU Settlement Scheme and CSI were added to the guidance. If that's the case, I do hope the Home Office will be willing to look past the CSI requirement also for future citizenship applications.

I’m in the situation where I applied two weeks before the new guidance, but my documents requirement changed exactly that day mentioning CSI.
I can see from my download the day before the wording was still the old one.
I completed my application in January, but had to wait to submit the application on the day I had Settled Status for full 12 months, which is their requirement.
I think I have been extremely unlucky with the timing.

In that case can anyone advice me if I already should explain in my cover letter why I didn’t have CSI or rather wait until they would require the documents?