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First of all, so far there have been no reports from members here that they were refused due to CSI issues. On the other hand members with CSI issues here and elsewhere have reported being approved. There simply isn't the evidence available so far that applicants have been refused and how widespread or not it might be.Alena004 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:53 pmGuys please help
I am ready to submit my application, do you think this should be ok to explain why I havent paid for CSI??
Im so worried to pay all that money and be declined.
I have been Self sufficient/housewife between April
2012 - June 2014. During that time I have paid
European Health Insurance in the Czech Republic
and I only saw private doctors in the UK, I did not
use NHS during that time. I was not aware that I
needed to pay Comprehensive Sickenss Insurance
during this period. It was not advertised to me and I
would have paid if I have known.
Thank you.....
alterhase58 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:56 pmFirst of all, so far there have been no reports from members here that they were refused due to CSI issues. On the other hand members with CSI issues here and elsewhere have reported being approved. There simply isn't the evidence available so far that applicants have been refused and how widespread or not it might be.Alena004 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:53 pmGuys please help
I am ready to submit my application, do you think this should be ok to explain why I havent paid for CSI??
Im so worried to pay all that money and be declined.
I have been Self sufficient/housewife between April
2012 - June 2014. During that time I have paid
European Health Insurance in the Czech Republic
and I only saw private doctors in the UK, I did not
use NHS during that time. I was not aware that I
needed to pay Comprehensive Sickenss Insurance
during this period. It was not advertised to me and I
would have paid if I have known.
Thank you.....
A Government Immigration Minister stated, in a letter to the3million pressure group, that he is not aware that applicants have been refused merely on the basis of missing CSI. Clearly it's not a statement in law.
The decision to apply is of course yours. If you decide to apply you should certainly fully explain your situation and provide copies of your insurance arrangements at the time.
Good luck!Alena004 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:11 pmalterhase58 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:56 pmFirst of all, so far there have been no reports from members here that they were refused due to CSI issues. On the other hand members with CSI issues here and elsewhere have reported being approved. There simply isn't the evidence available so far that applicants have been refused and how widespread or not it might be.Alena004 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:53 pmGuys please help
I am ready to submit my application, do you think this should be ok to explain why I havent paid for CSI??
Im so worried to pay all that money and be declined.
I have been Self sufficient/housewife between April
2012 - June 2014. During that time I have paid
European Health Insurance in the Czech Republic
and I only saw private doctors in the UK, I did not
use NHS during that time. I was not aware that I
needed to pay Comprehensive Sickenss Insurance
during this period. It was not advertised to me and I
would have paid if I have known.
Thank you.....
A Government Immigration Minister stated, in a letter to the3million pressure group, that he is not aware that applicants have been refused merely on the basis of missing CSI. Clearly it's not a statement in law.
The decision to apply is of course yours. If you decide to apply you should certainly fully explain your situation and provide copies of your insurance arrangements at the time.
Thank you for your reply! I will submit my application and post my progress on here.
Are you an EU citizen, or non-EU family member, with Settled Status?saf7776 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:34 pmhi everyone,
I have a questions for csi requirement. Confusing statements from guidance and application submission. So basically they look at the period before ILR to see if you needed CSI ?. But elsewhere it says you needed to have CSI from the date covering residence requirement... so basically time before submission day, 3 years for me. And in my case and I'm sure a lot of you that could be a year or few months difference.
Also is self employed tax assessment/returns print out for 3 years enough evidence to satisfy their requirements of being self employed ?
any advice would be appreciated
thanks
This wasn't clear from your post. I can't be sure whether this effects Surinder Singh cases, I believe as your wife is a non-EU citizen it is not relevant - your wife could never exercise EU Treaty Rights on her own and not based on you as her sponsor, as you are British. The UKVI policy guidance doesn't even mention Surinder Singh. UKVCAS (a Home Office contractor) are obliged to ask for this - they don't make the decisions though, that's still with UKVI. You should attach a letter explaining why you didn't have CSI - we have yet to see any reports of applicants being rejected purely on CSI missing.saf7776 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:54 pmHi
Thank you for the reply. I am a British citizen since birth and the application is for my wife.(Surinder singh route i don't know does that make me a EU citizen?). She has been a house wife for the whole time and not working (we have children). She has ILR settled status. I support her and i have been working self employed. We have made the application recently and what i don't understand is even though we repeatedly told them that she is a housewife and relying on me,, they kept on making us aware of CSI and signing many statements and decelerations that we are aware we are submitting missing documents (CSI). This is UKVCAS, we received emails saying we are missing documents and then at the appointment she had to sign declarations saying we are submitting missing documents.
does she still need CSI for being not employed and self sufficient of a family member who is engaged in those activities ?
Hello, my application for British citizenship has been successful!!!!!!!918 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:55 pmHi, I would wonder to hear if you met with any application for naturalisation through settled status being rejected due to lack of CSI in the case when the applicant was a student or self-sufficient person. We are all scared now, but to be honest, does it really happen? I read a number of recent stories from Q2 and Q3 of 2020 and in most cases, discretion was applied.
Hello! one more question, I am preparing for my appointment with UKVCAS, I have got the SO41 form from the Czech republic, confirming that I have been paying insurance over there, however it is in Czech language... I wonder do I spend even more money now having it translated, maybe they wont even look at it... as the whole CSI decision is up to the HO officer discretion anyway, with or without the SO41 form...alterhase58 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:57 pmGood luck!Alena004 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:11 pmalterhase58 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:56 pmFirst of all, so far there have been no reports from members here that they were refused due to CSI issues. On the other hand members with CSI issues here and elsewhere have reported being approved. There simply isn't the evidence available so far that applicants have been refused and how widespread or not it might be.Alena004 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:53 pmGuys please help
I am ready to submit my application, do you think this should be ok to explain why I havent paid for CSI??
Im so worried to pay all that money and be declined.
I have been Self sufficient/housewife between April
2012 - June 2014. During that time I have paid
European Health Insurance in the Czech Republic
and I only saw private doctors in the UK, I did not
use NHS during that time. I was not aware that I
needed to pay Comprehensive Sickenss Insurance
during this period. It was not advertised to me and I
would have paid if I have known.
Thank you.....
A Government Immigration Minister stated, in a letter to the3million pressure group, that he is not aware that applicants have been refused merely on the basis of missing CSI. Clearly it's not a statement in law.
The decision to apply is of course yours. If you decide to apply you should certainly fully explain your situation and provide copies of your insurance arrangements at the time.
Thank you for your reply! I will submit my application and post my progress on here.
Feel free to post further queries if any and also post your timeline.
Hello! one more question, I am preparing for my appointment with UKVCAS, I have got the SO41 form from the Czech republic, confirming that I have been paying insurance over there, however it is in Czech language... I wonder do I spend even more money now having it translated, maybe they wont even look at it... as the whole CSI decision is up to the HO officer discretion anyway, with or without the SO41 form...alterhase58 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:57 pmGood luck!Alena004 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:11 pmalterhase58 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:56 pmFirst of all, so far there have been no reports from members here that they were refused due to CSI issues. On the other hand members with CSI issues here and elsewhere have reported being approved. There simply isn't the evidence available so far that applicants have been refused and how widespread or not it might be.Alena004 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:53 pmGuys please help
I am ready to submit my application, do you think this should be ok to explain why I havent paid for CSI??
Im so worried to pay all that money and be declined.
I have been Self sufficient/housewife between April
2012 - June 2014. During that time I have paid
European Health Insurance in the Czech Republic
and I only saw private doctors in the UK, I did not
use NHS during that time. I was not aware that I
needed to pay Comprehensive Sickenss Insurance
during this period. It was not advertised to me and I
would have paid if I have known.
Thank you.....
A Government Immigration Minister stated, in a letter to the3million pressure group, that he is not aware that applicants have been refused merely on the basis of missing CSI. Clearly it's not a statement in law.
The decision to apply is of course yours. If you decide to apply you should certainly fully explain your situation and provide copies of your insurance arrangements at the time.
Thank you for your reply! I will submit my application and post my progress on here.
Feel free to post further queries if any and also post your timeline.
SO41 forms seem to be standard across the EU as was, so it's probably ok to include that in the original and perhaps prepare a quick summary as to what it is and details of cover.Alena004 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:48 pmHello! one more question, I am preparing for my appointment with UKVCAS, I have got the SO41 form from the Czech republic, confirming that I have been paying insurance over there, however it is in Czech language... I wonder do I spend even more money now having it translated, maybe they wont even look at it... as the whole CSI decision is up to the HO officer discretion anyway, with or without the SO41 form...alterhase58 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:57 pmGood luck!Alena004 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:11 pmalterhase58 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:56 pm
First of all, so far there have been no reports from members here that they were refused due to CSI issues. On the other hand members with CSI issues here and elsewhere have reported being approved. There simply isn't the evidence available so far that applicants have been refused and how widespread or not it might be.
A Government Immigration Minister stated, in a letter to the3million pressure group, that he is not aware that applicants have been refused merely on the basis of missing CSI. Clearly it's not a statement in law.
The decision to apply is of course yours. If you decide to apply you should certainly fully explain your situation and provide copies of your insurance arrangements at the time.
Thank you for your reply! I will submit my application and post my progress on here.
Feel free to post further queries if any and also post your timeline.
Unfortunately they have recently changed the guidance and for CSI only they are looking at the last 10 years.pzas21 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:57 pmGood afternoon all,
I had my documents checked by the home office and they came back with the following recommendations:
1. If applicant had Comprehensive Sickness Insurance (CSI), to be uploaded to the 'Other' category.
2. Please upload passport with bio and attach second page in one image to the 'Proof of Application' with all four corners showing as the one uploaded is not showing the corners.
Regarding the first point, it clearly states in the document upload section that:
"Evidence that you have been in the UK lawfully for your 3 or 5 year qualifying residence period. This should be evidence that you were here as a worker, student, self-employed, self-sufficient, retired or incapacitated person, If you spent some of that time in the UK as a student or as a self-sufficient person, and had comprehensive sickness insurance (CSI), a copy of your sickness insurance policy
I was a student in the UK back at 2013-2014,so I don't include that in my application. I remember I had some health insurance from EU when I came to UK but I cannot find it now. However, from what I understand from the above, the CSI is not required, as the qualifying period for me is from 2015-2020, correct?
Regarding the second point, I will upload the passport again, but what do they mean about the second page, is this the one with the signature?
Thanks,
Pavlos
A more accurate way to express that is that there is a requirement to have resided in the UK legally for a minimum of the past five years, and for any residence in the past ten years to not have been illegal.
First of all, we have not seen any reports where applicants have been refused purely due to CSI issues, but there have been some reports that applicants have been approved who had CSI issue. Clearly there is discretion being applied, and the caseworker guidance seem to suggest that discretion can be applied.Aniko84 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:18 pmGood evening,
could anyone help me about the comprehensive sickness insurance part of the application form?
I meet all the criteria to be able to apply for neutralization (lived in UK continuously for over 5 years, have been employed, language test, life in uk test, have been granted Indefinite Leave in the United
Kingdom under the EU settlement scheme over 12 months ago) but there is a 6 weeks gap in my employment. When I get to required documents part of my application, there is a section where it asks for prof of comprehensive sickens insurance while I was studying or being self sufficient.
I have left my job in October and now I am a full time student with a part time job. I was not aware of the CSI and that I may need one.
Should I worry about this before submitting my application form? Could my neutralisation be rejected over this? I realise the insurance can not be backdated and if this is something I would need to get my British citizenship for, I'm afraid I'd just loose the money as I don't have this Insurance.
Thank you in advance!
Cover letter should just explain the facts as they apply to you - if you have anything other insurance documents it's best to include a copy. This is just my take on things based on reports by members and my understanding of the original requirement. So not able to suggest how you should phrase a cover letter. Suffice to say it should be to the point and based on the facts relating to your case.Aniko84 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:36 amThank you so much for this, I really apricate it! I was very confused about this CSI when I first read about it, because when I applied for my indefinite leave to remain last year, my acceptance letter said I can continue my life in the UK and can study, work, use NHS and claim benefits just as before... Nowhere was this insurance ever mentioned to me.
I started to study in September, but I was also still in employment and worked part time. At the moment I work on a 0 hour contract (due to covid with very little luck at the moment, but that should change) but I am employed. There was only a 6 weeks gap between my jobs.
I will write the cover letter, where I mention this. In your opinion, what should I write about me not having a CSI?
Can I say that when I received my ILR status I was under the impression that my rights in the UK are protected and that involved me using the NHS without extra insurance? I don't want to phrase the cover letter in a way that could be confusing or just plain wrong.
Thank you for your help!
kind regards, Aniko
The short answer is yes, no requirement for Settled Status. CSI was a requirement under EU regulations (as implemented by the UK) for EU citizens exercising treaty rights as "students" or "self-sufficient" people - Settled Status is a UK immigration status and has no such requirement.pterodactylus wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:19 amI will try to be as concise as possible:
Is CSI no longer required for the period beginning from the moment you obtain pre-settled/settled status, i.e. February 2020 in my case, or from 01.01.2021 (assuming that you have PS/SS)?
Thank you!
