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delay more than 10 months

Post by skhan18 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:20 pm

Hi anyone have facing similar situation like me for naturalisation application or just only me....

I have applied BC on 26/4/2018 and have not get any update from home office and its already 10 months over. I sent several emails to home office and every time they replied as follows:

"as I am sure you are aware, naturalisation is not an automatic process and we have to make number of enquiries befog we can reach a decision on whether to grant citizenship. one of the requirements for naturalisation, set out in the nationality law, concern good character. Character is nit defined and fairly board view has to be taken when judging whether this requirements has beeb satisfied.

As part of Application process, the home office routinely conducts checks with other government departments and external agencies. The Extent and kengthof time taken to complete the checks varies according to the particular circumstance of each application. the process of these checks is regularly monitored.
So far, the checks have not been completed with regard to your application. As soon as we are in a position to reach a decision we will notify you accordingly."

I am just stressing out because this long delay. all of my friends who applied after me they got approval with in 3 months.


Experts please provide some ideas or advice i.e:

1. is it any reason, they hold my application?

2. Shall I contact with local MP to involve with this issue? or get a help from a legal representative?

3. will I send a pre-action protocol for this?

Thanks
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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by R-graphite » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:35 pm

Anything in particular that you think might be delaying your application? Bad immigration history? Or anything else that is relevant to the Good Character criteria. Also, which email address did you use to contact the Home Office?
skhan18 wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:20 pm
Hi anyone have facing similar situation like me for naturalisation application or just only me....

I have applied BC on 26/4/2018 and have not get any update from home office and its already 10 months over. I sent several emails to home office and every time they replied as follows:

"as I am sure you are aware, naturalisation is not an automatic process and we have to make number of enquiries befog we can reach a decision on whether to grant citizenship. one of the requirements for naturalisation, set out in the nationality law, concern good character. Character is nit defined and fairly board view has to be taken when judging whether this requirements has beeb satisfied.

As part of Application process, the home office routinely conducts checks with other government departments and external agencies. The Extent and kengthof time taken to complete the checks varies according to the particular circumstance of each application. the process of these checks is regularly monitored.
So far, the checks have not been completed with regard to your application. As soon as we are in a position to reach a decision we will notify you accordingly."

I am just stressing out because this long delay. all of my friends who applied after me they got approval with in 3 months.


Experts please provide some ideas or advice i.e:

1. is it any reason, they hold my application?

2. Shall I contact with local MP to involve with this issue? or get a help from a legal representative?

3. will I send a pre-action protocol for this?

Thanks
skhan
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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by CR001 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:41 pm

R-graphite wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:35 pm
Anything in particular that you think might be delaying your application? Bad immigration history? Or anything else that is relevant to the Good Character criteria. Also, which email address did you use to contact the Home Office?
See OPs circumstance in link below.

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by skhan18 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:29 pm

Hi just like to add my immigration history below
I came uk in May 2007 as a student and till March 2013 was PSW visa. Then I applied in time application for business entrepreneurs visa which was refused and I appealed. The appeal was exhausted in February 2015. After exhausting the appeal(according to old rules) within 28 days,I applied Tier 2 and tier 2 approved. In April 2017 ILR was granted long residence route in same day service.
I haven't breach the immigration rules past 10 years or no conviction or CCJ/ driving offences, no debts as well.

I just applied naturalisation application through NCS End of April 2018.

Do you think these can be reason for delaying?

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by Bighto678 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:37 pm

skhan18 wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:29 pm
Hi just like to add my immigration history below
I came uk in May 2007 as a student and till March 2013 was PSW visa. Then I applied in time application for business entrepreneurs visa which was refused and I appealed. The appeal was exhausted in February 2015. After exhausting the appeal(according to old rules) within 28 days,I applied Tier 2 and tier 2 approved. In April 2017 ILR was granted long residence route in same day service.
I haven't breach the immigration rules past 10 years or no conviction or CCJ/ driving offences, no debts as well.

I just applied naturalisation application through NCS End of April 2018.

Do you think these can be reason for delaying?
what email adress you contact home office

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by skhan18 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:51 pm


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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by Bighto678 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:00 pm

skhan18 wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:51 pm
Sent on below email nationalitysupportteamfmt@homeoffice.gov.uk
i suggest you to envlove mp and tel mp that find out what excat reason home office delaying ur application and tell home that not to give you standerd rply get reall reason

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by Nusratali786 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:17 pm

Bighto678 wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:00 pm
skhan18 wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:51 pm
Sent on below email nationalitysupportteamfmt@homeoffice.gov.uk
i suggest you to envlove mp and tel mp that find out what excat reason home office delaying ur application and tell home that not to give you standerd rply get reall reason
Have u done toiec english course in the past...??? What english course have u done and have u done any tax amendments???

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by R-graphite » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:59 pm

I don’t think tax amendments is a problem unless the applicant benifited from a tax change to aquire ILR and then amended it to reduce his tax liability. Tax amendments is an issue with Tier 1 applicants applying for ilr.


Nusratali786 wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:17 pm
Bighto678 wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:00 pm
skhan18 wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:51 pm
Sent on below email nationalitysupportteamfmt@homeoffice.gov.uk
i suggest you to envlove mp and tel mp that find out what excat reason home office delaying ur application and tell home that not to give you standerd rply get reall reason
Have u done toiec english course in the past...??? What english course have u done and have u done any tax amendments???
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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by skhan18 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:33 pm

I never appeared and registered TOEIC Exam in my life. Got proper university degree (MBA) from British Uni and never did the tax amendment as well.
just made a fresh application within 28days ( actual 20 days/ according to old rules) for tier 1 after appeal exhaustion. Got ILR same day service, had not any issue in ILR application either.

I have no clue why Home office are prolonging than standard time, even they did not clarify the reason of delay. I had to sent an email to chase them up but no effective results.

its really frustrating ....do not know what should I do now?

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by waqas734 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:44 pm

Only thing you can do is wait , i have a same history as you , been on psw than Tier 1 Enterpreneuer than thier 1 enterpreneur extension , ILR on 10 years route on same day as well which was approved within an hour , last week i contacted HO on email and replied my file is with case worker now emailed again yesterday hoping their reply would be my case is decided and communication has been sent ,

Note my student visa was refused as well and i was in appeal process for 7 months without visa , but in higher court my unviersity contaced HO to grant me visa as i had ongoing classes and exams and needed extension , i got a call directly back than from a case worker to withdraw my appeal from court as they were issuing me the visa so i did but i was covered by section 3c in whole process from refusal to appeal and grant of visa

Your case i think the reason of dealay might be the broken of section 3c , the time when your appeal was exhausted till grant of new visa whatever time was between it might class as overstay , its upto the case worker how he sees it and that might be the only reason of delay and they are doing their checks

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by skhan18 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:04 pm

@waqas, did you get approval or are you still waiting like me? Please update in this forum whatever update/outcome is come out

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by waqas734 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:47 pm

skhan18 wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:04 pm
@waqas, did you get approval or are you still waiting like me? Please update in this forum whatever update/outcome is come out

Thanks
I emailed them last thursday they said my case is now with the case worker , emailed them yesterday again and got the same reply that my application is now with a case worker

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by skhan18 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:58 pm

@waqas, any update

thanks

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by waqas734 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:24 pm

skhan18 wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:58 pm
@waqas, any update

thanks
Still nothing but expecting something this week as my file was with case worker which means decison has been or will be taken shorlty as all checks were completed before the application was allocated to caseworker ,

Did you email them again and got any reply ?

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by skhan18 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:34 pm

yes, i did the email. no response yet....

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by opo19 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:41 am

Hi, i’m in same situation i have applied naturalisation application on 27th of April 2018, email them 6 times, got same random reply, i involved MP, still got same reply, contact them every month over the phone to escalte my application they reply the same, i had enough and i stop waiting now😏

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by opo19 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:43 am

Also i have done SAR( Subject Access Request) which came back just after a month, nothing in there, just my immigration history, doesnot tell much actually

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by opo19 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:47 am

waqas734 wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:24 pm
skhan18 wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:58 pm
@waqas, any update

thanks
Still nothing but expecting something this week as my file was with case worker which means decison has been or will be taken shorlty as all checks were completed before the application was allocated to caseworker ,
Hi, just want to ask which application you have made, and you are waiting still?


Did you email them again and got any reply ?

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by waqas734 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:52 am

Its very strange why some cases are held for so long without any reason what reply did you get everytime , i wonder my reply 3 weeks ago which said “ you application is now with case worker “ would really mean my application outcome is few days from now or can it still take months as the case with others

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by opo19 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:04 am

Its always that reply:
I understand that you application is currently under consideration and the Home Office will contact you directly regarding their decision.
We can confirm Mr ...... submitted an application for Naturalisation on 27th April 2018, which remains under consideration. As part of the application process, the Home Office routinely conducts enquiries with both internal and external agencies. The extent and length of time taken to complete these varies according to the particular circumstance of each application.

Please be advised that it is not possible to provide a timescale for a decision to be issued, as this will depend on the findings of any of the previously mentioned enquiries and a full consideration of the case.

A progress letter was sent out to Mr......on 16th Jan 2018 advising him of the above and assuring him that as soon as we are in a position to reach a decision we will notify him accordingly.

I hope the above information clarifies the current position for you.”

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by waqas734 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:10 am

opo19 wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:04 am
Its always that reply:
I understand that you application is currently under consideration and the Home Office will contact you directly regarding their decision.
We can confirm Mr ...... submitted an application for Naturalisation on 27th April 2018, which remains under consideration. As part of the application process, the Home Office routinely conducts enquiries with both internal and external agencies. The extent and length of time taken to complete these varies according to the particular circumstance of each application.

Please be advised that it is not possible to provide a timescale for a decision to be issued, as this will depend on the findings of any of the previously mentioned enquiries and a full consideration of the case.

A progress letter was sent out to Mr......on 16th Jan 2018 advising him of the above and assuring him that as soon as we are in a position to reach a decision we will notify him accordingly.

I hope the above information clarifies the current position for you.”

It seems that reply means that they are still doing their checks and your file have not been assigned to case worker yet pending other checks

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by opo19 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:17 am

No i have been told in few emails that it is assigned to a case worker once you have been given case id, its with the case worker but they are doing check, don’t know what kind of checks which on few applications it took years and other application doesn’t take even a month, case assigned to case worker does not mean it will be decided soon, its just within homeoffice there are few departments and few organisations internal and external which are slow and does not reply them soon, i don’t look for post anymore because i have done all i can, solicitors says you can’t even taje them to court because its up to them when to decide once all checks are done, so its wait like hell and forever...

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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by waqas734 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:29 am

opo19 wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:17 am
No i have been told in few emails that it is assigned to a case worker once you have been given case id, its with the case worker but they are doing check, don’t know what kind of checks which on few applications it took years and other application doesn’t take even a month, case assigned to case worker does not mean it will be decided soon, its just within homeoffice there are few departments and few organisations internal and external which are slow and does not reply them soon, i don’t look for post anymore because i have done all i can, solicitors says you can’t even taje them to court because its up to them when to decide once all checks are done, so its wait like hell and forever...
Please check the following reply which reveals the internal stages and process for handling naturalization process replied offcially by home office



Applications are received and cases are then created, checks are requested and when applications/cases are ready for a decision they are allocated to a caseworker. Cases are allocated for a decision date order “



So your application still not with case worker yet as after getting all checks done they allocate it to case worker for final decision , case id are generated when applications are received doesnt mean they are allocated to case worker straightaway
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Re: delay more than 10 months

Post by opo19 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:32 am

When i did SAR, it tells me its with the case worker but they hide case worker name and id, so i know its with the case worker and homeoffice confirmed that when i called them

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