General discussion after BC and Passport application

philip2011 · Post by **philip2011** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:04 am

Hi all, I am new to this forum and I am very happy to see how people who does not know each other helping a lot. Thank you all!
Now my story: i am EU member with ILR for more than 3 years and I have applied for BC on 13/10/2011 under immigration law. But until present no fee has been taken out of my account, any one in the same situation? I have tried to contact the HO regarding this but with no succes.
Also I have start to worry about my application cos I have not feeled section 2.4 and 2.5 on the top of wich is written EEA nationals exercising EC Treaty Rights. Do you think that could be a problem? I have not feeled them cos I am EEA national but I am not exercising EC Treaty Rights, I am applying under Immigration Law ( 1+3+1 Years Business Visa + 3Years ILR). Any comment will be helpfull. Thank you!

Jambo · Post by **Jambo** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:33 pm

philip2011 wrote:Hi all, I am new to this forum and I am very happy to see how people who does not know each other helping a lot. Thank you all!
Now my story: i am EU member with ILR for more than 3 years and I have applied for BC on 13/10/2011 under immigration law. But until present no fee has been taken out of my account, any one in the same situation? I have tried to contact the HO regarding this but with no succes.
Also I have start to worry about my application cos I have not feeled section 2.4 and 2.5 on the top of wich is written EEA nationals exercising EC Treaty Rights. Do you think that could be a problem? I have not feeled them cos I am EEA national but I am not exercising EC Treaty Rights, I am applying under Immigration Law ( 1+3+1 Years Business Visa + 3Years ILR). Any comment will be helpfull. Thank you!

Depends on the backlog of application, It can take the HO a while to take a fee.
As for section 2.4 in the form. If you had ILR (or PR confirmation under the EEA regulation), there is no need to fill in the section.

guardianangel79 · Post by **guardianangel79** » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:25 pm

I applied by post in the last week of July and received my approval on Friday (4 Nov). Hope this is useful info for pre-Aug applicants who are still waiting. Good luck to all

sackcy · Post by **sackcy** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:30 pm

Thanks for your replies,

So there are not many left who had applied in the month of July?

Regards

chocho · Post by **chocho** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:00 pm

I have the impression that things have slowed down dramatically lately, also I heard on tv news that there were redundancies being made among ukba staff. not sure if there is a link...

sackcy · Post by **sackcy** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:01 pm

chocho you are right, there was changes in the ukba staff but the news showed it was only at the airport controls.

lets hope we get sorted out as life seems to be stuck here.

humtum · Post by **humtum** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:00 pm

I applied on 14th July still waiting! have not heard anything yet from them

sackcy · Post by **sackcy** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:10 pm

humtum hope we get our applications "approved" by end of this month, or else we might get stuck in the upcoming Christmas and new years holidays in the month of December, as i think it will be hard to get ceremony appointment and maybe ips might get slow in functioning due to the December end holidays.

you know guys what i mean :-s

walesky28 · Post by **walesky28** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:18 pm

Yesterday (7th November) My Journey to British Citizenship was complete and I finally received my British Passport.

The journey has taken all of 7 years and a couple of months and it's been ardous at times (Married an EEA Citizen September 2004, Got My 5 Year Residence Sticker in February 2005, Fast Forward February 2010 when I applied for PR, Got My Confirmation of PR August 10th 2010 and after PR+1 year (Mid August 2011), I Applied For Naturalisation- which I Obtained Early October 2011, Opted for a Private Ceremony a few days later, Got my Certificate Mid October, Applied For my passport straightaway (14th October), of which I finally had an interview 3rd November and then receipt of my passport on the 7th.

I would like to thank all the members for their input and sharing their experiences. It's been great to be part of this forum. I will keep logging on intermittently to share my knowledge and best wishes with this forum.

It's been long and ardous. Stressful at times, but in the end we'll all get there. Thank you once again.

I would like to say good luck to those who are still waiting and hope your wait will end soon.

Thanks.

malaika · Post by **malaika** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:28 pm

sackcy wrote:humtum hope we get our applications "approved" by end of this month, or else we might get stuck in the upcoming Christmas and new years holidays in the month of December, as i think it will be hard to get ceremony appointment and maybe ips might get slow in functioning due to the December end holidays.

you know guys what i mean :-s

I hope theydo something within the next two weeks or else we might have to wait till next year for approvals. I am also of the view that the month of December might not be taken seriously since most workers will be busy with their own holidays or planning chrismas at the expense of N applications. If there are no real approvals in the next three weeks one must relax until after six months

chocho · Post by **chocho** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:01 pm

It can sometimes be misleading to think that December would be a slow month because of Christmas, holidays...some people want to get rid of stuff before year-end as well. I would say there is probably a good chance they get quicker. I applied around mid-july by the way and still waiting...of course.

Hope is all we have at the moment

Sam_London · Post by **Sam_London** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:09 pm

Even if you get your approval next, you wont have enough time to travel for Xmas. I am being realistic and want you to think like that as well. It takes at least 6 weeks to sort out you ceremony, passport interview etc- if everything goes super smooth. Xmas is in 6 weeks. Don't do the mistake I did and hope to go on holiday by cutting it just fine- you will waste your money. This is a long process, so start making your plans once you have your passport in hand. Good luck

sackcy · Post by **sackcy** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:40 pm

Friends,

I was told by IPS (via email) that they will be off only on the public holidays (ie 26th and 27th) and will be working rest of the days (ie during the "assumed" break between Christmas and the New Years).

Still hope/pray each of us and others (outside this forum) gets our "approvals" so that we can post (asap) the smiling statement "CITIZENSHIP JOURNEY ENDS" like our other friends.

malaika · Post by **malaika** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:33 am

sackcy wrote:Friends,

I was told by IPS (via email) that they will be off only on the public holidays (ie 26th and 27th) and will be working rest of the days (ie during the "assumed" break between Christmas and the New Years).

Still hope/pray each of us and others (outside this forum) gets our "approvals" so that we can post (asap) the smiling statement "CITIZENSHIP JOURNEY ENDS" like our other friends.

I am now looking more at the work load in terms of mail sorting and deliveries towards the December holiday period. The question hithertofore is : will approvals arrive in time ? On the other hand a conslolation is that the rush to meet targets may cut the waiting time down

malaika · Post by **malaika** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:23 pm

I got my British Citizenship approval today 10th November The letter was dated 8th November 2011. I am praying for all of you who are still waiting that may speed and success favour you. I applied on 27th July 2011 and the application was approved on 8th November 2011

Tamim · Post by **Tamim** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:27 pm

I applied on 27-july but have no answer yet

still waitting ......hope mine comes before xmas...!!!!

Best of luck to all of us

malaika · Post by **malaika** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:55 am

According to the trends and pattern of BC approvals it appears that the Home Office are working in a last in last out direction, that is, September applications seem to be given priority followed by August then July. Any applicants for BC for the months of April, May, June and early July who have not received their approvals yet, please share your experiences

Will Singh · Post by **Will Singh** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:17 am

"According to the trends and pattern of BC approvals it appears that the Home Office are working in a last in last out direction"

Do you mean last in first out?

Can you share with us why you think they are do this?

Also I have a few American friends and they were saying the longer you have be here in the UK the longer the applications take, whats your opinion on that.

I have been trying to look for trends myself but if we look on the time-lines on this forum we dont know if people are updating there statues or not..

malaika · Post by **malaika** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:32 am

Will Singh wrote:"According to the trends and pattern of BC approvals it appears that the Home Office are working in a last in last out direction"

Do you mean last in first out?

Can you share with us why you think they are do this?

Also I have a few American friends and they were saying the longer you have be here in the UK the longer the applications take, whats your opinion on that.

I have been trying to look for trends myself but if we look on the time-lines on this forum we dont know if people are updating there statues or not..

I think there is some degree of reluctance to take on much work on the part of the HO particularly where there is a back log; I do not understand the view that the longer one stays here the longer the application takes because my application for residence in the UK prior to the application for BC took more than 10 years. Secondly my brother made his application for BC after 20 years and he had held ILR for about 10 years yet the application took only two months

Will Singh · Post by **Will Singh** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:37 am

malaika wrote:
Will Singh wrote:"According to the trends and pattern of BC approvals it appears that the Home Office are working in a last in last out direction"

Do you mean last in first out?

Can you share with us why you think they are do this?

Also I have a few American friends and they were saying the longer you have be here in the UK the longer the applications take, whats your opinion on that.

I have been trying to look for trends myself but if we look on the time-lines on this forum we dont know if people are updating there statues or not..
Sorry, I meant last in last out. I think there is some degree of reluctance to take on much work on the part of the HO particularly where there is a back log; I do not understand the view that the longer one stays here the longer the application takes because my application for residence in the UK prior to the application for BC took more than 10 years. Secondly my brother made his application for BC after 20 years and he had held ILR for about 10 years yet the application took only two months

Not sure what you mean by "last in last out"??

I agree with you about the length of stay the longer it takes, but if you think about it maybe they have more checking to do as you have been here longer.

My uncle applied in January this year and got his approval back under 4 weeks and he had been Indefinite here for 20+ years.

My view is that they might want to get things moving for Christmas and New year so there maybe a lot of happy people who have been waiting a long time get there approvals...

Good Luck to all.

fev · Post by **fev** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:01 pm

I'm too concerned about the order of processing BC applications and it seems to me HO don't have any particular criteria e.g. first in first out because judging by timeline thread some people have been waiting for much longer than me but on the other hand a lot of people who applied after me received their approvals. I can't get rid of the feeling that it's simply luck when an application is going to be processed (providing it is straight-forward). It also appears that HO process Spouse of BC slower than Work Permits and Tiers

malaika · Post by **malaika** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:46 pm

Will Singh wrote:
malaika wrote:
Will Singh wrote:"According to the trends and pattern of BC approvals it appears that the Home Office are working in a last in last out direction"

Do you mean last in first out?

Can you share with us why you think they are do this?

Also I have a few American friends and they were saying the longer you have be here in the UK the longer the applications take, whats your opinion on that.

I have been trying to look for trends myself but if we look on the time-lines on this forum we dont know if people are updating there statues or not..
Sorry, I meant last in first out. I think there is some degree of reluctance to take on much work on the part of the HO particularly where there is a back log; I do not understand the view that the longer one stays here the longer the application takes because my application for residence in the UK prior to the application for BC took more than 10 years. Secondly my brother made his application for BC after 20 years and he had held ILR for about 10 years yet the application took only two months

Not sure what you mean by "last in last out"??

I agree with you about the length of stay the longer it takes, but if you think about it maybe they have more checking to do as you have been here longer.

My uncle applied in January this year and got his approval back under 4 weeks and he had been Indefinite here for 20+ years.

My view is that they might want to get things moving for Christmas and New year so there maybe a lot of happy people who have been waiting a long time get there approvals...

Good Luck to all.

malaika · Post by **malaika** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:47 pm

Will Singh wrote:
malaika wrote:
Will Singh wrote:"According to the trends and pattern of BC approvals it appears that the Home Office are working in a last in last out direction"

Do you mean last in first out?

Can you share with us why you think they are do this?

Also I have a few American friends and they were saying the longer you have be here in the UK the longer the applications take, whats your opinion on that.

I have been trying to look for trends myself but if we look on the time-lines on this forum we dont know if people are updating there statues or not..
Sorry, I meant last in first out. I think there is some degree of reluctance to take on much work on the part of the HO particularly where there is a back log; I do not understand the view that the longer one stays here the longer the application takes because my application for residence in the UK prior to the application for BC took more than 10 years. Secondly my brother made his application for BC after 20 years and he had held ILR for about 10 years yet the application took only two months

Not sure what you mean by "last in last out"??

I agree with you about the length of stay the longer it takes, but if you think about it maybe they have more checking to do as you have been here longer.

My uncle applied in January this year and got his approval back under 4 weeks and he had been Indefinite here for 20+ years.

My view is that they might want to get things moving for Christmas and New year so there maybe a lot of happy people who have been waiting a long time get there approvals...

Good Luck to all.

malaika · Post by **malaika** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:50 pm

fev wrote:I'm too concerned about the order of processing BC applications and it seems to me HO don't have any particular criteria e.g. first in first out because judging by timeline thread some people have been waiting for much longer than me but on the other hand a lot of people who applied after me received their approvals. I can't get rid of the feeling that it's simply luck when an application is going to be processed (providing it is straight-forward). It also appears that HO process Spouse of BC slower than Work Permits and Tiers

Sometimes i do not think that it is luck because of late approvals seem to follow a pattern or patterns almost completely identical to each other

fev · Post by **fev** » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:41 pm

malaika wrote:
fev wrote:I'm too concerned about the order of processing BC applications and it seems to me HO don't have any particular criteria e.g. first in first out because judging by timeline thread some people have been waiting for much longer than me but on the other hand a lot of people who applied after me received their approvals. I can't get rid of the feeling that it's simply luck when an application is going to be processed (providing it is straight-forward). It also appears that HO process Spouse of BC slower than Work Permits and Tiers
Sometimes i do not think that it is luck because of late approvals seem to follow a pattern or patterns almost completely identical to each other

I apologise if these patterns were discussed previously but it would be great if you can describe what you noticed about HO decision making process in more details. I'm really interested to find out.
Thank you.

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