General discussion after BC and Passport application

giz wrote:I realise that everybody on this thread, including myself, has applied for BC and most have been approved or in the process of waiting for approval, but has anybody actually been refused? and if so, on what grounds?
I understand that the majority of applicants, myself included, have straightforward applications but from what I've researched a very small percentage of applications are refused for different reasons.
Those that have been refused will probably not want to share their story, but I thought it was worth asking anyway.

Giz

I have heard of cases where;
1. people have applied for bc before they are eligible,
2. Have spent too much time out of the country,
3. Have convictions that go against the set citizenship criteria etc

I think the list is inexhaustible, and if you not careful with following the guidelines, you could get a refusal. I think though that, a lot of people applying for citizenship have had some experience within the immigration system, so are quite knowledgable in navigating through the system.

I think nobody should ever take it for granted that they will get approval. That's why it's still a nail biting time.

For those who are anywhere closer to or had similer kind of timelines.
Applied in January and aknowledgment received on the 9th Feb and still awaiting approval !
I will be very much interested in hearing from u plsss.
Just dont know what to do really?

mohammadmu wrote:For those who are anywhere closer to or had similer kind of timelines.
Applied in January and aknowledgment received on the 9th Feb and still awaiting approval !
I will be very much interested in hearing from u plsss.
Just dont know what to do really?

its sad to hear that but its six mounth now you have to call them and asked the reason or offer them more assistence if they needed (more doucments or proof etc)
under what catagory you haved applied and how i mean by NCS/POST/LAYWER so please contact to the ukba and tell your time or speak with any caseworker about that ok

CheerfulBelle wrote:

giz wrote:I realise that everybody on this thread, including myself, has applied for BC and most have been approved or in the process of waiting for approval, but has anybody actually been refused? and if so, on what grounds?
I understand that the majority of applicants, myself included, have straightforward applications but from what I've researched a very small percentage of applications are refused for different reasons.
Those that have been refused will probably not want to share their story, but I thought it was worth asking anyway.

Giz

I have heard of cases where;
1. people have applied for bc before they are eligible,
2. Have spent too much time out of the country,
3. Have convictions that go against the set citizenship criteria etc

I think the list is inexhaustible, and if you not careful with following the guidelines, you could get a refusal. I think though that, a lot of people applying for citizenship have had some experience within the immigration system, so are quite knowledgable in navigating through the system.

I think nobody should ever take it for granted that they will get approval. That's why it's still a nail biting time.

as far as i serched and found there are two main reasons

1: resident requirement it could be extra absent or the not physical present 5/3 year before the application reached at HO.

2: Some person had/have conviction which resulted to go to court to decided but they dont disclose them few of them successed aswel.

and many rare chance to refuse on any others issue.

its sad to hear that but its six mounth now you have to call them and asked the reason or offer them more assistence if they needed (more doucments or proof etc)
under what catagory you haved applied and how i mean by NCS/POST/LAYWER so please contact to the ukba and tell your time or speak with any caseworker about that ok[/quote]

Thanks Nazia

called them a couple of times over the last few months. Most recently was yesterday when they said that it was still under consideration!
I applied through the NCS merton. How would i know if they needed more documents. Also you mentioned that i can speak with a caseworker. Is it possible?

ta Mohammad

mohammadmu wrote:its sad to hear that but its six mounth now you have to call them and asked the reason or offer them more assistence if they needed (more doucments or proof etc)
under what catagory you haved applied and how i mean by NCS/POST/LAYWER so please contact to the ukba and tell your time or speak with any caseworker about that ok

Thanks Nazia

called them a couple of times over the last few months. Most recently was yesterday when they said that it was still under consideration!
I applied through the NCS merton. How would i know if they needed more documents. Also you mentioned that i can speak with a caseworker. Is it possible?

ta Mohammad[/quote]

i have no idea but if the call center person cant get enough information then you have to speak with sombody else or sombody senior out there to explain you why is that delay. call them again and tell them your timing that its 6 mouth now maybe they will consider straigt away but you have to call them

Ah wow, I've only been away a few days but so much has changed in the forum!

I had to call the HO to update some information and discovered that my application is yet to be allocated to a caseworker. Applied on 18th April, the call was made on 29th June. Frustrating times.

Re the issue around chatty threads, I agree with alta. Unstructured discussion is a key source of some very valuable information and in understanding the process. It honestly is unrivalled! I can look at timelines all I want and read through the UKBA's instructions to caseworkers all I want, but it is somehow just inadequate!
I only joined the forum to join in discussions - otherwise would have been quite happy staying a lurker. I'm sure the same can be said of several other members.

So I guess what I'm saying is that discussion is very important and very helpful, it will probably increase traffic (or prevent any reduction in traffic!) and will encourage more people to share their stories and experiences. Call me presumptive, but I was under the impression that the latter was the aim of these boards.

A request to all forum users:

Come on guys why everyone started adding different comments on the timeline thread. It was not just moderators but many of us were having difficulties viewing exact timelines on the previous forum. And there many instances where 4-5 pages were without any timeline.

Thoguh this thread is sticky but almost at the top since i created this, can we please at least continue discussing all the things about timeline here.

hi anybody has any updates about their application it is so difficult to wait till ukba makes a decision.

I called them yesterday to find out about the ack letter and to make sure they have my right address, as they messed up the address info during my ILR.
The guy on the other said - its waiting to be allocated to a case worker. And about my ack letter he said I should get it next week and my address is right on their files!

While I was on the phone with him I should have asked him my ref # but nevermind.

so that's my update!

when did u apply and under what category?

10/06 - applied
23/06 - payment deducted

applied under HSMP (JR)+ILR

but am not worried as HO have confirmed the receipt of my application via phone!

1664,

so your case is waiting allocation to CW. Does that mean, Initial checks have been done already?

You think processing times would have improved a bit?

My aim was to confirm the address they had and also chase them for the ack letter. However there was no mention of initial checks so it'll be hard for me to say at what stage the application has reached. Speculating if initial checks are done before allocation to case worker, then, it would seem as they are done and now waiting to be assigned to a cw.

Just saw in timelines topic that someone who applied on 7th June has received the approval. This is quick. Hope they are clearing the cases quickly and we should hear soon.

Is EEA family member citizenship application process quicker that non EU?

vipul1981 wrote:Just saw in timelines topic that someone who applied on 7th June has received the approval. This is quick. Hope they are clearing the cases quickly and we should hear soon.

Is EEA family member citizenship application process quicker that non EU?

And it looks like postal applications are quicker - they receive them quickly and also the approval letter appears to be reaching the applicant quickly, probably because of self addressed recorded delivery option. NCS approvals are sent second class and taking about 10 days from decision.

osteophytes wrote: And it looks like postal applications are quicker - they receive them quickly and also the approval letter appears to be reaching the applicant quickly, probably because of self addressed recorded delivery option. NCS approvals are sent second class and taking about 10 days from decision.

I don't think it is necessary true that postal applications are quicker. I think it depends on which case working team are allocated applications. What is true is that post applicants receive their approval letters faster.

osteophytes wrote:

vipul1981 wrote:Just saw in timelines topic that someone who applied on 7th June has received the approval. This is quick. Hope they are clearing the cases quickly and we should hear soon.

Is EEA family member citizenship application process quicker that non EU?

And it looks like postal applications are quicker - they receive them quickly and also the approval letter appears to be reaching the applicant quickly, probably because of self addressed recorded delivery option. NCS approvals are sent second class and taking about 10 days from decision.[/quot

postal applications are not quicker its up to which CW are with , there are people who send application via post since april and they are still waiting
may be they are quicker once the decision is made and if here is a self adressed recorded delivery included with the application

Why is this discussion not sticky? As many other members have already stated, this has been and wil be a very useful source of information for many people.

Jeez....the moderator here has some thing against having a general discussion about BC applications. Stubbornly refusing to make this a sticky topic and promptly deleting comments in the other section.

osteophytes wrote:Jeez....the moderator here has some thing against having a general discussion about BC applications. Stubbornly refusing to make this a sticky topic and promptly deleting comments in the other section.

Einstein said, "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

I can make a wild guess that the moderator is a human.

rightmove wrote:

osteophytes wrote:Jeez....the moderator here has some thing against having a general discussion about BC applications. Stubbornly refusing to make this a sticky topic and promptly deleting comments in the other section.

Einstein said, "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

I can make a wild guess that the moderator is a human.

agreed

any approvals today?

Guys please dont get me wrong, but if we discuss about some useful stuff here, then moderators will have no choice but make this as a sticky post.

apart time line it is important to share the experiences and what doucments we need for the purposoe of the act all relevent information are very usefull for new members.