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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by CR001 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:16 pm

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Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:01 pm
Hi there,
Firstly, I want to congratulate to the organizers of the website/foro, because is a good help to all the people involved with Visa applications.
Secondly, let me introduce myself; I came to uk (Scotland) in 2012 with my family and we believe is time to apply for citizenship by naturalisation. Apologize if this has been alreafy clarify, but I didnt found a clear answer.
Can we apply the whole family at same time? I mean, is a family application in some where? If is yes, is better all toguether? Is a family fee?
Or I have to apply one by one. Adults first and later on the kids?
As we are 6 years in Uk, we will need the ILR?
I've been told that the NCS wont give any kind of advise.
Thanks in advance
Are you an EU citizen?

Do you all each hold a document certifying permanent residence??

There is no discount for a family applying together. Each applicant must pay the stipulated fee.
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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by Juan21 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:08 am

Hi Char

Thanks for coming back to me. Yes, we are all EU (Spain). We dont have the permanent residence yet. I believe we can apply for the permanent residence and as soon we will got it, we can apply for the citizenship without wait an extra year due we are already 6 years in the country. It's that right?
Can we apply all at the same time? I mean, kids and adults , or the kids have to wait until the parents have the citizenship?

Thanks

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by CR001 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:05 am

Juan21 wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:08 am
Hi Char

Thanks for coming back to me. Yes, we are all EU (Spain). We dont have the permanent residence yet. I believe we can apply for the permanent residence and as soon we will got it, we can apply for the citizenship without wait an extra year due we are already 6 years in the country. It's that right?
Can we apply all at the same time? I mean, kids and adults , or the kids have to wait until the parents have the citizenship?

Thanks
It depends on the date that HO deemed you all to have attained PR automatically. The letter you get will state what that date is. All of you can apply together if you all attained PR at the same time.
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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by hay85 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:44 pm

Hi guys. Hope some one can advise. The July applications seem to generally be taking forever. Mine went in 10-07 and acknowledged 25-07 biometrics 27-07 and now nothing. Application was via a solicitor.

I have lived here for 20 years with 12 yrs LDR, been married to a Brit 10 years and have a child whose 11.I just got complacent on applying then lost original Zim passport which has been a pain to replace. So, I don’t know what’s happening. I feel super stressed at the moment. Just wondered if anyone had any idea on why there seems such a delay with most applications and if there is a way to track applications?

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by moonasoft » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:34 am

hay85 wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:44 pm
Hi guys. Hope some one can advise. The July applications seem to generally be taking forever. Mine went in 10-07 and acknowledged 25-07 biometrics 27-07 and now nothing. Application was via a solicitor.

I have lived here for 20 years with 12 yrs LDR, been married to a Brit 10 years and have a child whose 11.I just got complacent on applying then lost original Zim passport which has been a pain to replace. So, I don’t know what’s happening. I feel super stressed at the moment. Just wondered if anyone had any idea on why there seems such a delay with most applications and if there is a way to track applications?
Mate same here, I applied 20th July and on September 22nd I got a letter asking for further proof of residence. Ever since its quite again. I am not sure whats the hold up with my application but certainly July applications are extremely slow. I wish there was some online tracking or enhanced communication channel between the caseworker and the applicant. After all it costed £1330 to make an application.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by kmm26 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:18 pm

I have a relatively straightforward application, been in the country since 2006, had a Tier 2 since 2012, moved jobs once, never overstayed, no criminal history. Got my ILR using the premium service last year in October, since then I have got married and elected to apply early for my Citizenship based on being married to a british citizen and holding ILR.

I elected early as I had multiple meetings coming up where I would have to travel to Europe to discuss Post Brexit arrangements with customers.

Extremely frustrated with the Home Office, i applied in mid May, so that is is about 5 months now and no word from the home office. Their telephone service is extrmely poor.

After a query, they returned my passport and BRP, but still hold my wife's passport and all our other documents.I have asked for the rest of the documents back multiple times now, but to no avail. they will not even reply to emails.

Poor service, specially when considering the cost.

For the governtment to view applicants as Customers, is disconcerting.... Not happy at all partially thinking of withdrawing my application and remaining an Indian Citizen with ILR. Atleast my children will then have the right to Indian, Irish and UK citizenship if Brexit goes down badly!

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by Bugnutter » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:05 am

Hi, I am currently filling out my online application for BC. I originally came to the U.K in 1997 on a working holidaymaker visa, during which time I met my future husband. I returned to my home country at the end of my visa, then re-entered the U.K 5 months later on a tourist visa and married. I was granted ILR in 2001 and was a stay at home mum to our 3 children for many years, supported by my husband, whom is a BC. I have been working for over 8 years now, and unfortunately have now divorced this year. My questions are- will my application be ok even though I am now divorced and how do i prove I was supported by him during the years of child rearing, or in fact , do I need to provide evidence of this? Would be most grateful for your help. Thank you.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by CR001 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:55 am

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Hi, I am currently filling out my online application for BC. I originally came to the U.K in 1997 on a working holidaymaker visa, during which time I met my future husband. I returned to my home country at the end of my visa, then re-entered the U.K 5 months later on a tourist visa and married. I was granted ILR in 2001 and was a stay at home mum to our 3 children for many years, supported by my husband, whom is a BC. I have been working for over 8 years now, and unfortunately have now divorced this year. My questions are- will my application be ok even though I am now divorced and how do i prove I was supported by him during the years of child rearing, or in fact , do I need to provide evidence of this? Would be most grateful for your help. Thank you.
Your divorce is irrelevant.

There is no requirement to prove you were 'supported'.
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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by Bugnutter » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:16 pm

Ok. Thank you, was just concerned as I have heard people denied citizenship when they couldn't prove self sufficiency. Many thanks.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by CR001 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:27 pm

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Ok. Thank you, was just concerned as I have heard people denied citizenship when they couldn't prove self sufficiency. Many thanks.
It is relevant to EU citizens (non British) and their family.

There is no requirement for employment etc for citizenship.
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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by Bugnutter » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:34 pm

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Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:27 pm
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Ok. Thank you, was just concerned as I have heard people denied citizenship when they couldn't prove self sufficiency. Many thanks.
It is relevant to EU citizens (non British) and their family.

There is no requirement for employment etc for citizenship.
So its not relevant to me, being a non European??

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by Ancestor » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:42 pm

Bugnutter wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:34 pm
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Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:27 pm
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Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:16 pm
Ok. Thank you, was just concerned as I have heard people denied citizenship when they couldn't prove self sufficiency. Many thanks.
It is relevant to EU citizens (non British) and their family.

There is no requirement for employment etc for citizenship.
So its not relevant to me, being a non European??
Yes, as CR001 says, not relevant to non-EU applicants.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by Bugnutter » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:26 pm

Ancestor wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:42 pm
Bugnutter wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:34 pm
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Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:27 pm
Bugnutter wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:16 pm
Ok. Thank you, was just concerned as I have heard people denied citizenship when they couldn't prove self sufficiency. Many thanks.
It is relevant to EU citizens (non British) and their family.

There is no requirement for employment etc for citizenship.
So its not relevant to me, being a non European??
Yes, as CR001 says, not relevant to non-EU applicants.
Thank you for your help, I suppose I shall press that button now! (:

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by tyshk4 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:43 pm

Hello everyone, I've managed to skim through the forum looking for an answer to my question but I haven't come across one yet so I'm hoping someone will be able to help out. I have recently submitted my online application for naturalisation as British Citizen. I believe my case is fairly straight forward as I do not have any extenuating circumstances such as being away from the country for longer than allowed etc. Lived continuously for 5 years and hold Permanent Residence status, passed Life in the UK and an Ielts certifying my knowledge of English language. I have a question regarding how quickly after submitting supporting documents I would receive my passport back? I am planning a trip away from the country for a few months and will require my EU passport back due to applying for visas etc. Are the documents returned after a decision is made or are they sent back earlier? From what I have gathered it's approximately +70 days from submitting the application to obtaining a decision from Home Office.

Is it possible to apply for the British passport prior to receiving a decision from Home Office?

Thank you!

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by CR001 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:33 pm

tyshk4 wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:43 pm
Hello everyone, I've managed to skim through the forum looking for an answer to my question but I haven't come across one yet so I'm hoping someone will be able to help out. I have recently submitted my online application for naturalisation as British Citizen. I believe my case is fairly straight forward as I do not have any extenuating circumstances such as being away from the country for longer than allowed etc. Lived continuously for 5 years and hold Permanent Residence status, passed Life in the UK and an Ielts certifying my knowledge of English language. I have a question regarding how quickly after submitting supporting documents I would receive my passport back? I am planning a trip away from the country for a few months and will require my EU passport back due to applying for visas etc. Are the documents returned after a decision is made or are they sent back earlier? From what I have gathered it's approximately +70 days from submitting the application to obtaining a decision from Home Office.

Is it possible to apply for the British passport prior to receiving a decision from Home Office?

Thank you!
Your documents are returned shortly before or at time you get your approval.

Why didnt you apply using Nationality Document Return Service?

How long in total have you lived in the UK?

What date did you attain PR, per the letter HO would have sent you?
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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by tyshk4 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:37 pm

CR001 wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:33 pm
tyshk4 wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:43 pm
Hello everyone, I've managed to skim through the forum looking for an answer to my question but I haven't come across one yet so I'm hoping someone will be able to help out. I have recently submitted my online application for naturalisation as British Citizen. I believe my case is fairly straight forward as I do not have any extenuating circumstances such as being away from the country for longer than allowed etc. Lived continuously for 5 years and hold Permanent Residence status, passed Life in the UK and an Ielts certifying my knowledge of English language. I have a question regarding how quickly after submitting supporting documents I would receive my passport back? I am planning a trip away from the country for a few months and will require my EU passport back due to applying for visas etc. Are the documents returned after a decision is made or are they sent back earlier? From what I have gathered it's approximately +70 days from submitting the application to obtaining a decision from Home Office.

Is it possible to apply for the British passport prior to receiving a decision from Home Office?

Thank you!
Your documents are returned shortly before or at time you get your approval.

Why didnt you apply using Nationality Document Return Service?

How long in total have you lived in the UK?

What date did you attain PR, per the letter HO would have sent you?
Thank you for your reply. Well, I wonder that myself... I suppose I did not expect to have an opportunity to be traveling so early on in the year and didn't think it would have been an issue. Looking back it would have made more sense but now it's obviously too late.

I have lived in the UK for over 10 years now and had my PR approved last November. However I obtained permanent residency on the 1st September 2014. I submitted the application on the 2nd October and hoping to get it approved by mid December. I understand it's difficult to predict anything but do you reckon I should get it in time?

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by Vesh123 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:49 pm

Hi, hope anyone would help me with below question.

My naturalisation is due in December 2018. I heard that HO is withdrawing Nationality checking service in November from all local bodies. Is that true? if so what would be the new changes and procedure for AN, would we still be allowed to keep the original documents?

Hope to hear from someone soon.

Thanks
Vesh

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by CR001 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:08 am

Vesh123 wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:49 pm
Hi, hope anyone would help me with below question.

My naturalisation is due in December 2018. I heard that HO is withdrawing Nationality checking service in November from all local bodies. Is that true? if so what would be the new changes and procedure for AN, would we still be allowed to keep the original documents?

Hope to hear from someone soon.

Thanks
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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by Vesh123 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:33 pm

CR001 wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:08 am
Vesh123 wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:49 pm
Hi, hope anyone would help me with below question.

My naturalisation is due in December 2018. I heard that HO is withdrawing Nationality checking service in November from all local bodies. Is that true? if so what would be the new changes and procedure for AN, would we still be allowed to keep the original documents?

Hope to hear from someone soon.

Thanks
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Thanks for your reply. I've one more questions To apply for Naturalisation Do I have to complete exact 12 months or I can apply within 28 days before completing the 12 months?

Hope to hear from you soon.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by trilobite1981 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:31 am

Vesh123 wrote:
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Thanks for your reply. I've one more questions To apply for Naturalisation Do I have to complete exact 12 months or I can apply within 28 days before completing the 12 months?

Hope to hear from you soon.

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There are no 28 days rule in applying BC. You need to complete at least 12 months.

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by FM1 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:47 am

Hi there

I a in the process of completing an online AN application. I have some questions regarding the Nationality Checking Service (NCS) and the Nationality Document Return Service (NDRS):

1. As part of the NDRS, do they verify if the forms have been completed correctly and all required forms have been included?

2. If not, is it possible to both the NCS (to verify that the form has been completed correctly) and the NDRS (to get my passport and BRP back on the same day)?

3. If this is not possible, is it worth paying an immigration lawyer to review my application and ensure it is filled in correctly, prior to completing the application?

A couple of general questions as well:

4. In section 6 of the AN Guide titled Biometric Enrolment, it states the following: As part of your application, you are required to enrol your biometric details for the purpose of identity verification. You must complete the biometric enrolment section of the application form. You will then be issued with an enrolment letter, instructing you to make an appointment at a designated Post Office to have your biometric details recorded.

I have not seen any reference to this in the application form at all and I'm right at the end (payment section). How do I go about completing my Biometric Enrolment?

5. I have lost my Life in the UK pass certificate but have a photo of it. Is it worth printing out the photo as part of the cover letter?

Thanks to all the super helpful members on this board. Your help is very much appreciated! :)

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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by alterhase58 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:09 pm

FM1 wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:47 am
Hi there

I a in the process of completing an online AN application. I have some questions regarding the Nationality Checking Service (NCS) and the Nationality Document Return Service (NDRS):

1. As part of the NDRS, do they verify if the forms have been completed correctly and all required forms have been included? They will check it's been completed.

2. If not, is it possible to both the NCS (to verify that the form has been completed correctly) and the NDRS (to get my passport and BRP back on the same day)? They will return your passport and other documents.

3. If this is not possible, is it worth paying an immigration lawyer to review my application and ensure it is filled in correctly, prior to completing the application? The application is straightforward and most forum members do it themselves.

A couple of general questions as well:

4. In section 6 of the AN Guide titled Biometric Enrolment, it states the following: As part of your application, you are required to enrol your biometric details for the purpose of identity verification. You must complete the biometric enrolment section of the application form. You will then be issued with an enrolment letter, instructing you to make an appointment at a designated Post Office to have your biometric details recorded.

I have not seen any reference to this in the application form at all and I'm right at the end (payment section). How do I go about completing my Biometric Enrolment? at the end of the online process you can print a document for the biometrics enrollment which you take to the post office

5. I have lost my Life in the UK pass certificate but have a photo of it. Is it worth printing out the photo as part of the cover letter? Don't know about this one - someone else maybe?

Thanks to all the super helpful members on this board. Your help is very much appreciated! :)
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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by CR001 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:10 pm

FM1 wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:47 am
Hi there

I a in the process of completing an online AN application. I have some questions regarding the Nationality Checking Service (NCS) and the Nationality Document Return Service (NDRS):

1. As part of the NDRS, do they verify if the forms have been completed correctly and all required forms have been included? Yes

2. If not, is it possible to both the NCS (to verify that the form has been completed correctly) and the NDRS (to get my passport and BRP back on the same day)? Most councils no longer offer NCS as it has been phased out.

3. If this is not possible, is it worth paying an immigration lawyer to review my application and ensure it is filled in correctly, prior to completing the application? If you have followed the guidance notes and booklet for form AN, then there should be no need. A solicitor is not required unless you have a very complex case and even then, has no bearing or influence on your application and they often get even the most basic applications horribly wrong.

A couple of general questions as well:

4. In section 6 of the AN Guide titled Biometric Enrolment, it states the following: As part of your application, you are required to enrol your biometric details for the purpose of identity verification. You must complete the biometric enrolment section of the application form. You will then be issued with an enrolment letter, instructing you to make an appointment at a designated Post Office to have your biometric details recorded.

I have not seen any reference to this in the application form at all and I'm right at the end (payment section). How do I go about completing my Biometric Enrolment? At the end of the online process once you have paid and submitted, you can download your biometric letter, print it and go to the Post Office with the letter to enroll your biometrics.

5. I have lost my Life in the UK pass certificate but have a photo of it. Is it worth printing out the photo as part of the cover letter? Yes.

Thanks to all the super helpful members on this board. Your help is very much appreciated! :)
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Re: General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

Post by FM1 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:52 pm

Sorry, have another question. I have booked in my NDRS for 2nd November and in the confirmation email there is a statement about not travelling for 2 months from the time I make the application. I already have flights booked from mid-December to early Jan (away for a total of 3 weeks).

Given that there is a maximum of 15 days to enrol biometrics from the time the request is made, should I reschedule the NDRS session to the new year (in case I'm still overseas at the time)?

What's the typical time between the application being made and the enrolment request coming through?

Is it possible to complete biometric enrolment in Australia?

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