General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

MoIQ wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:28 pm

shanny77 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:18 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:14 pm

MoIQ wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:56 pm

My application for naturalization has been refused today.

The refusal letter says I did not fulfill the good character requirement. The letter said I stated in the application that I was self-employed during the time of overstay from 31st July 2012 to 13 Jan 2013.

I was registered as self-employed during these dates but I didn't work and the HMRC record shows I did not pay even class 2 NI contribution.

I am thinking to appeal the decision as registered self-employed never means working. I did not work in the described dates and get supported by the church. My HMRC recorded also showed no tax or NI in 2012. I will add a church letter of support and a letter from HMRC to show no working in these dates.
What process shall I follow?
How much is the fee of appeal?
Anyone can advise or help in this matter?

You cannot appeal a refused citizenship application. You only have the option to ask for a reconsideration, which costs £372 and can take as long as HO deems necessary.

If you have overstayed between 2012-2013 you shouldn't have applied. If you overstayed you have break immigration rules and you ought to have lived in the UK legally for 10years before you can apply for naturalization.

It's not overstay in 2012-2013. It is because I wrote in the application that I was working during overstay time. Working is a breach of immigration rule for a person with a refugee route. A friend of mine wrote nothing about work during his overstay. The caseworker sent him a form to complete that how he regularised himself. He includes the letter of support from a friend and sends the farms back. A couple of weeks after he got approval.

In my case, I thought to reconsideration but I decided to not lodge the appeal and waite for 3 more years for a clean 10 years history. If the home office finds any forge, bad quality or manipulates to get the nationality, they can cancel it, especially when visiting abroad. I keep reading news and is better to take a safe route.

Hi MoIQ,
Sorry to see they refused your application.
Did you receive any email like you will be contacted in 21 days or a decision made on your case before receiving the refusal?

Can someone who has received approval letter confirm if the approval letter reference number for booking ceremony starts with 0 followed by case id number?

Or its completely different then case id number

winter1234 wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:10 pm

MoIQ wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:28 pm

shanny77 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:18 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:14 pm

You cannot appeal a refused citizenship application. You only have the option to ask for a reconsideration, which costs £372 and can take as long as HO deems necessary.

If you have overstayed between 2012-2013 you shouldn't have applied. If you overstayed you have break immigration rules and you ought to have lived in the UK legally for 10years before you can apply for naturalization.

It's not overstay in 2012-2013. It is because I wrote in the application that I was working during overstay time. Working is a breach of immigration rule for a person with a refugee route. A friend of mine wrote nothing about work during his overstay. The caseworker sent him a form to complete that how he regularised himself. He includes the letter of support from a friend and sends the farms back. A couple of weeks after he got approval.

In my case, I thought to reconsideration but I decided to not lodge the appeal and waite for 3 more years for a clean 10 years history. If the home office finds any forge, bad quality or manipulates to get the nationality, they can cancel it, especially when visiting abroad. I keep reading news and is better to take a safe route.

Hi MoIQ,
Sorry to see they refused your application.
Did you receive an email like you will be contacted in 21 days or a decision made on your case before receiving the refusal?

No 21 days e-mail was recieved. I actually contacted HO on 3rd Fab, then 11 February but there was no reply at all. I requested a local MP to write an e-mail to the HO on 10 Fab.

I recieved the white plastic envelop contained 2 letters. Letter 1 was issued on 4 January (caseworker) and the other one was issued on 18th February (chief caseworker) confirming the refusal of my application.
The letter clearly said that I was overstayed until the asylum was granted. I have to complete 10 years of clean history to meet good character requirements.

The letter suggested that the right time to apply the naturalization is 2023. However, I am open to apply but it will be refused again.

Good Morning guys ,
Is there anyone who has made another application after previous refusal due to the 10year clean record? No criminal record though.
I am so nervous even though my case is straight forward but HO is unpredictable

Justintime wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:59 am

Good Morning guys ,
Is there anyone who has made another application after previous refusal due to the 10year clean record? No criminal record though.
I am so nervous even though my case is straight forward but HO is unpredictable

I did and still waiting for an answer. It's been over 6 months now so I'm worrying coz you never know with HO. How long you are waiting ?

Thanx for replying .I only just applied 22nd of January 2020(one month).I pray you get your approval soon.Pls keep us posted

Justintime wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:51 pm

Thanx for replying .I only just applied 22nd of January 2020(one month).I pray you get your approval soon.Pls keep us posted

Thank you. I will let you know. Good luck!

I know I kind of asked this on my own thread but I was hoping for someone with experience.

My partner and our two children (both under 10) applied under my main application as a single family.

Will the HO send us their decisions in one letter, or will they send each decision individually?

WaitingPatty wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:31 pm

I know I kind of asked this on my own thread but I was hoping for someone with experience.

My partner and our two children (both under 10) applied under my main application as a single family.

Will the HO send us their decisions in one letter, or will they send each decision individually?

No need to post multiple times. The answer doesn't change as has already been answered in your own topic!!!

Yes, thank you. I did mention that.

I'm not sure that the answer was from experience and, as mentioned, I wonder if there was anyone with a similar experience.

I'd even go so far as to revel in a hyperlink to any other topic or forum where this is mentioned. I wouldn't bother asking if I could find the answer anywhere on the Internet...which I really can't

Hi everyone,
Just want to share an experience with my naturalisation application !!!especially, for people who ve been worrying waiting!!!
Date of application: 19/09/19
It s online application, i thought, should be a straight forward case as I ve been leaving in U.K. for 11 years. I m a non EU, come to U.K. as a student visa, had a MSc degree from U.K.! Married to EU citizen and got two kids. Always been working, no criminal offence records or any debt.

I ve been worry I might done something wrong!!!A Friend who has more complicated case got approve in 8 weeks. Or if it s a case because only me apply this time.

Until this month I have changed my job! So, I decided to send them an email which I got from this forum on 3rd February 2020, telling them about my new job and kindly ask for an update but surprisingly no reply from them at all not even acknowledged email. I was worry sick!!!

A week later on the 10th February, I decided to fill the Change circumstances form online again as I got no reply from them. I plan to send email to another email address again In coming week.

But by surprise on 20th February I received a brown envelope alongside with the letter from the council booked me in for a ceremony in April!
Date of approval was 10th February 2020! Letter from council date 17th February 2020! I m over the moon. Waiting games is over! Still don’t get the logic of processing application!!
Best of luck for everyone who waiting and do send them an email if you re worry!!
Thank you to everyone on this board, every comments! Very helpful!

What email address do you use to chase it up please? Could you share it on here.

Hi Punguru82,
An email I sent to them was Nationalitysupportteamfmt@homeoffice.gov.uk! Good luck

21/02/2020 -I sent an email to HO asking if my case has been allocated to a caseworker - they replied today saying:

Dear applicant,

Thank you for your email.

We have noted our systems with enquiry.

A caseworker will contact you if they require any further information from you throughout the course of the application process. Please note; we will not contact you to provide regular updates and cannot provide a definitive application processing timescale.
Your application will now continue to progress until a decision is made.

It was not explicitly answered whether the caseworker is already dealing with my case or is still waiting for consideration. Based on your experience - what do you think?

It was not explicitly answered whether the caseworker is already dealing with my case or is still waiting for consideration. Based on your experience - what do you think?

You applied just under two calendar months ago ....
Pure speculation, but I doubt whether there is one case worker dealing with an application from receipt to decision, there must be various levels involved, and UKVI don't tell us how their processes are organised. As they say, you won't be informed of every step - the next communication you will likely get is the decision letter and it may be sooner than you expect. Hope it goes well. There are quite a few members on here who are waiting 6+ months.

Hi Guys,

I sent an email to Nationalitysupportteamfmt@homeoffice.gov.uk for an update, i received the following email response:-


Thank you for your e-mail

You will be contacted by post within 21 working days

Thank you

FMT


www.homeoffice.gov.uk



Has anyway received a similar response? from what i see other people have being getting some sort of response which is different from this.

HI

I received same email on 18/02 after i asked for an update.

so looking out for postman.hopefully receive something in a week or two.

Thank you for contacting UKVI Contact Centre.

Please be advised that a decision has been despatched via 2nd class post.

Date posted: 19TH FEBRUARY 2020

If you have not received your decision within 10 working days of the date posted please email FurtherNationalityEnquiries@homeoffice.gov.uk. I send my application on 31/07/2019. After calling to check my updated with the ukvi contact centre a few hrs later they sent me this email . My question is since I moved to a new address and filled the form online and send also by post ,and they confirmed my address has been updated. Just wandering why second class post is 10 days working days when I know he may take 3 to 4 days , and may they didn’t update my address

Justintime wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:59 am

Good Morning guys ,
Is there anyone who has made another application after previous refusal due to the 10year clean record? No criminal record though.
I am so nervous even though my case is straight forward but HO is unpredictable

Yes l have and got decision today after 9 and half months

HELLO EVERYONE. TODAY I RECEIVED CEREMONY INVITATION FROM MY COUNCIL AFTER 9 AND HALF MONTHS OF WAITING. IM STILL WAITING FOR HOMEOFFICE APPROVAL LETTER. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR ALL THE MESSAGES AND GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU

Received this email on 18 Feb 2020 anyone can advise me how long caseworker will take to make a decision ?

Your application is now with a caseworker. You will be contacted in due course

Jamie11 wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:59 am

Received this email on 18 Feb 2020 anyone can advise me how long caseworker will take to make a decision ?

Your application is now with a caseworker. You will be contacted in due course

No one can.

Anyone received similar email or had experience timeline
After this type of email ?

Hi everyone.

I applied 28th July 2019 and got my approval letter on 22nd feb 2020.

it took nearly 7 months, so it depends on individual cases
Thanks

RK3285 wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:11 pm

Hi everyone.

I applied 28th July 2019 and got my approval letter on 22nd feb 2020.

it took nearly 7 months, so it depends on individual cases
Thanks

Congratulations!
Did you apply online ?If yes did you receive any email when your case was decided ?
Have you contact HO during past 7 months ?
Thanks in advance