General Discussion During Naturalisation Application Process

CR001 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:12 pm

ABU1 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:07 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:54 pm

ABU1 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:51 pm

thank you for reply

How do i pay fee for reconsideration? any idea ? because i have to contact then by post i think. i think its £372.00 i am just checking online how to apply for reconsideration just wants some clearity on it.if you know please do share with me .
thank you for your quick reply .

Have you actually been refused and received a refusal letter or have HO emailed you asking you to re-declare and resign the form and sent you the attachment? They are not asking you to apply for a reconsideration. Read the email carefully, it explains what they want you to do, i.e. resign and date the application and send it back for them to consider. They are not refusing you outright, which they can do, but have chosen to ask you to resign and redate the application form.

Reconsideration is ONLY possible if you have already been refused and you believe HO was wrong, which if you were absent from the UK, they were not.

again thank you so much for clearity
actully i mistaken they refused but they haven’t they just asking for signature and send them back. i got streesed and didn’t pay attention to full deatils as its not refused.
thank you again i appreciate your help

Just make sure you date it for the date you resign it, ie today and not the same date you applied in February.

mrafgsharoon wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:37 pm

Hi PPTP
Thanks for asking
May I know how to make an official complaint and how long it takes .

Malikg123 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:35 pm

Send email to nationality support team on 9 April 2020 Reply with my case I’d details received today.

My email was forward to Ct3 case worker team asking them to reply me don’t know which department is that.

Received email with a person name ( abc name )

We are still considering your application but please be assured a decision will be made as soon as possible.

Who send me email that person is my case worker ? Normally whenever I ask for update I get a reply from mmft nationality support team this time my email was forward to ct3 and they forward to person who email me.

What this mean someone is dealing with my case and that person is case worker ?

Someone had the similar email if yes after how long they get decision.

Many thanks in advance.

PPTP wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:15 pm

I already have some ideas what to put and write and who to send.

If anyone supports it, I will create a separate topic and will move this discussion there, where we can liaise further aspects.

Oria wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:40 pm

Dear Ariskar,
I have applied the same week as you on 21 July. I know a few other people who applied 1 month to at least 3 weeks before us who are still waiting... so it is not you and I and a few others on here who are waiting. I have sent requests for updates almost monthly mainly due to my address change during the application process - making sure that I have not missed any communications from HO.

So you are not all alone in this, this may calm you down. I think Covid-19 may be the cause of delays, but no doubt you and all of us will hear from HO soon. I would not advise you to take no action given that its not you being singled out, but it is apparent that there are different procedures that apply to applicants with refugee background meaning that our applications take longer than other applicants. I would not worry about this as I am sure caseworkers are bound to follow their rules/SOPs what ever guidance is there for them that they must follow, they do so. My opinion. I noticed someone who applied on 6 June 19 got decision yesterday. So by this you can measure, a response may come in the next 2-3 weeks or could be sooner. At least there are no new cases filed, caseworkers have the time to get rid of the workload that they have on their desks from before the lockdown begin.

I hope that this is helpful. At least you now know that there are hundreds more people from June/July of 19 waiting for a response. Stay safe guys.

StaySafe99 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:54 pm

Good afternoon,

I hope everybody is keeping well and safe in these strange times.

My naturalization application was submitted first week of Jan 2020 and yesterday I have emailed the HO enquiring about an update. Today I have received the below response and was wondering if any of the members/moderators have seen this response before and has experience of how long it takes to receive the formal communication from the HO from the date this email was received . Your input would be much appreciated.

" Thank you for your email.

I can confirm that a decision has now been made on your application, you should receive confirmation of this shortly, please allow at least 28 days from the date of this email.

The Home Office will endeavour to process applications and dispatch correspondence as quickly as possible, however in the current circumstances this will take longer than normal to process."


Cheers

StaySafe99 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:54 pm

Good afternoon,

I hope everybody is keeping well and safe in these strange times.

My naturalization application was submitted first week of Jan 2020 and yesterday I have emailed the HO enquiring about an update. Today I have received the below response and was wondering if any of the members/moderators have seen this response before and has experience of how long it takes to receive the formal communication from the HO from the date this email was received . Your input would be much appreciated.

" Thank you for your email.

I can confirm that a decision has now been made on your application, you should receive confirmation of this shortly, please allow at least 28 days from the date of this email.

The Home Office will endeavour to process applications and dispatch correspondence as quickly as possible, however in the current circumstances this will take longer than normal to process."


Cheers

ariskar wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:02 pm

PPTP wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:15 pm

I already have some ideas what to put and write and who to send.

If anyone supports it, I will create a separate topic and will move this discussion there, where we can liaise further aspects.

I support. Albeit we haven't made the HO written complaint either.

Oria wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:40 pm

Dear Ariskar,
I have applied the same week as you on 21 July. I know a few other people who applied 1 month to at least 3 weeks before us who are still waiting... so it is not you and I and a few others on here who are waiting. I have sent requests for updates almost monthly mainly due to my address change during the application process - making sure that I have not missed any communications from HO.

So you are not all alone in this, this may calm you down. I think Covid-19 may be the cause of delays, but no doubt you and all of us will hear from HO soon. I would not advise you to take no action given that its not you being singled out, but it is apparent that there are different procedures that apply to applicants with refugee background meaning that our applications take longer than other applicants. I would not worry about this as I am sure caseworkers are bound to follow their rules/SOPs what ever guidance is there for them that they must follow, they do so. My opinion. I noticed someone who applied on 6 June 19 got decision yesterday. So by this you can measure, a response may come in the next 2-3 weeks or could be sooner. At least there are no new cases filed, caseworkers have the time to get rid of the workload that they have on their desks from before the lockdown begin.

I hope that this is helpful. At least you now know that there are hundreds more people from June/July of 19 waiting for a response. Stay safe guys.

Thank you for the kind words. Also some friends who applied May 2019 in similar categories got their approvals in March 2020.

Best wishes for you and all those waiting, stay safe friends.

Laller wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:30 pm

Hi everyone, I am during my naturalisation but I am wondering on something.. Because ukvcas offices are closed and there are no any post office nearby to take my biometrics is it possible to scan my current passport for my biometrics? I mean my biometrics datas are in my passport. For settled status application I should just scan the chip with my mobiles nfc to get my bio. Can I do the same for naturalisation, or my biometrics should have taken at post office?

StaySafe99 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:54 pm

Good afternoon,

I hope everybody is keeping well and safe in these strange times.

My naturalization application was submitted first week of Jan 2020 and yesterday I have emailed the HO enquiring about an update. Today I have received the below response and was wondering if any of the members/moderators have seen this response before and has experience of how long it takes to receive the formal communication from the HO from the date this email was received . Your input would be much appreciated.

" Thank you for your email.

I can confirm that a decision has now been made on your application, you should receive confirmation of this shortly, please allow at least 28 days from the date of this email.

The Home Office will endeavour to process applications and dispatch correspondence as quickly as possible, however in the current circumstances this will take longer than normal to process."


Cheers

StaySafe99 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:30 pm

StaySafe99 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:54 pm

Good afternoon,

I hope everybody is keeping well and safe in these strange times.

My naturalization application was submitted first week of Jan 2020 and yesterday I have emailed the HO enquiring about an update. Today I have received the below response and was wondering if any of the members/moderators have seen this response before and has experience of how long it takes to receive the formal communication from the HO from the date this email was received . Your input would be much appreciated.

" Thank you for your email.

I can confirm that a decision has now been made on your application, you should receive confirmation of this shortly, please allow at least 28 days from the date of this email.

The Home Office will endeavour to process applications and dispatch correspondence as quickly as possible, however in the current circumstances this will take longer than normal to process."


Cheers

Thanks all for the information provided. Furthermore, do you know if we are expected to receive an email notification in parallel with the official letter for the application outcome?

For those who asked: I emailed (nationalitysupportteamfmt@homeoffice.gov.uk)

CR001 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:37 pm

Laller wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:30 pm

Hi everyone, I am during my naturalisation but I am wondering on something.. Because ukvcas offices are closed and there are no any post office nearby to take my biometrics is it possible to scan my current passport for my biometrics? I mean my biometrics datas are in my passport. For settled status application I should just scan the chip with my mobiles nfc to get my bio. Can I do the same for naturalisation, or my biometrics should have taken at post office?

No, you need to enrolled biometrics and have your identity checked. Biometrics involves taking your digital photo and your fingerprints. Wait till the centres reopen to book your appointment. Note also that the uploaded documents are only submitted to ukvi once your biometrics are done and your identity has been checked.

You still need to scan a copy of your passport regardless.

Laller wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:53 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:37 pm

Laller wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:30 pm

Hi everyone, I am during my naturalisation but I am wondering on something.. Because ukvcas offices are closed and there are no any post office nearby to take my biometrics is it possible to scan my current passport for my biometrics? I mean my biometrics datas are in my passport. For settled status application I should just scan the chip with my mobiles nfc to get my bio. Can I do the same for naturalisation, or my biometrics should have taken at post office?

No, you need to enrolled biometrics and have your identity checked. Biometrics involves taking your digital photo and your fingerprints. Wait till the centres reopen to book your appointment. Note also that the uploaded documents are only submitted to ukvi once your biometrics are done and your identity has been checked.

You still need to scan a copy of your passport regardless.

"Wait till the centres reopen"....Should be CENTRE OR can be done in a Post Office?

And THANK YOU!

winter1234 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:13 pm

Hello everyone,
I applied for naturalisation in middle of July 2019 and it is more than 9 months now.
I contacted HO several times and every time they provided me with a stupid excuse.
I made a complaint and received another stupid response.
I filled the form of ombudsman and sent it to my MP for signature.
To be honest I am not interested in British Nationality anymore but I will chase my complaint and I will do legal action for this matter.
I applied through refugee route and as I know people who applied through this route usually wait more than others without any clear reason.
I think everyone who have same situation should make a complaint and chase it up to the end.
This is the only way to deal with this rubbish department.

CR001 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:47 pm

Laller wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:53 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:37 pm

Laller wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:30 pm

Hi everyone, I am during my naturalisation but I am wondering on something.. Because ukvcas offices are closed and there are no any post office nearby to take my biometrics is it possible to scan my current passport for my biometrics? I mean my biometrics datas are in my passport. For settled status application I should just scan the chip with my mobiles nfc to get my bio. Can I do the same for naturalisation, or my biometrics should have taken at post office?

No, you need to enrolled biometrics and have your identity checked. Biometrics involves taking your digital photo and your fingerprints. Wait till the centres reopen to book your appointment. Note also that the uploaded documents are only submitted to ukvi once your biometrics are done and your identity has been checked.

You still need to scan a copy of your passport regardless.

"Wait till the centres reopen"....Should be CENTRE OR can be done in a Post Office?

And THANK YOU!

It is the ukcvas centres where you enroll biometrics, which are currently closed. It is not the post office!!

Laller wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:30 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:47 pm

Laller wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:53 pm

CR001 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:37 pm

No, you need to enrolled biometrics and have your identity checked. Biometrics involves taking your digital photo and your fingerprints. Wait till the centres reopen to book your appointment. Note also that the uploaded documents are only submitted to ukvi once your biometrics are done and your identity has been checked.

You still need to scan a copy of your passport regardless.

"Wait till the centres reopen"....Should be CENTRE OR can be done in a Post Office?

And THANK YOU!

It is the ukcvas centres where you enroll biometrics, which are currently closed. It is not the post office!!

My sister has gone to a post office last year for her biometrics.

PPTP wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:02 pm

winter1234 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:13 pm

Hello everyone,
I applied for naturalisation in middle of July 2019 and it is more than 9 months now.
I contacted HO several times and every time they provided me with a stupid excuse.
I made a complaint and received another stupid response.
I filled the form of ombudsman and sent it to my MP for signature.
To be honest I am not interested in British Nationality anymore but I will chase my complaint and I will do legal action for this matter.
I applied through refugee route and as I know people who applied through this route usually wait more than others without any clear reason.
I think everyone who have same situation should make a complaint and chase it up to the end.
This is the only way to deal with this rubbish department.

Hello Winter1234

I completely support you and everyone who suffers the massive delays must do the complaint. If no clear reply, send the complaint to the ombudsman. I am sure MP will sign it easily because they are also fed up with home office.

It is majority of refugees suffer the most delay. We think to arrange a collective letter to various social organizations, including my House of Parliament and House of Lords.

If you support let me know. I will create a separate topic for us to discuss further actions.

Thank you

winter1234 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:03 pm

PPTP wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:02 pm

winter1234 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:13 pm

Hello everyone,
I applied for naturalisation in middle of July 2019 and it is more than 9 months now.
I contacted HO several times and every time they provided me with a stupid excuse.
I made a complaint and received another stupid response.
I filled the form of ombudsman and sent it to my MP for signature.
To be honest I am not interested in British Nationality anymore but I will chase my complaint and I will do legal action for this matter.
I applied through refugee route and as I know people who applied through this route usually wait more than others without any clear reason.
I think everyone who have same situation should make a complaint and chase it up to the end.
This is the only way to deal with this rubbish department.

Hello Winter1234

I completely support you and everyone who suffers the massive delays must do the complaint. If no clear reply, send the complaint to the ombudsman. I am sure MP will sign it easily because they are also fed up with home office.

It is majority of refugees suffer the most delay. We think to arrange a collective letter to various social organizations, including my House of Parliament and House of Lords.

If you support let me know. I will create a separate topic for us to discuss further actions.

Thank you

Hi PPTP,

I am in for any type of complaint and getting BC is no longer interesting for me but I really like to get the fee I paid or any other type of damage that I can get.
I contacted a solicitor as well and o am going to send home office a pre action letter as well.
Solicitor said usually when they receive this letter they apologise for the delay and then they send you the decision letter within 2 weeks but this letter will cost the applicant between £500 to £800 and as HO knows that they think efugees won't do that.
As I understood HO use this to delay refugees application as much as like as refugees are the most vulnerable applicants.
Shame on HO and I wish I had never come to UK.
Thanks

CR001 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:12 pm

winter1234 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:03 pm

PPTP wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:02 pm

winter1234 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:13 pm

Hello everyone,
I applied for naturalisation in middle of July 2019 and it is more than 9 months now.
I contacted HO several times and every time they provided me with a stupid excuse.
I made a complaint and received another stupid response.
I filled the form of ombudsman and sent it to my MP for signature.
To be honest I am not interested in British Nationality anymore but I will chase my complaint and I will do legal action for this matter.
I applied through refugee route and as I know people who applied through this route usually wait more than others without any clear reason.
I think everyone who have same situation should make a complaint and chase it up to the end.
This is the only way to deal with this rubbish department.

Hello Winter1234

I completely support you and everyone who suffers the massive delays must do the complaint. If no clear reply, send the complaint to the ombudsman. I am sure MP will sign it easily because they are also fed up with home office.

It is majority of refugees suffer the most delay. We think to arrange a collective letter to various social organizations, including my House of Parliament and House of Lords.

If you support let me know. I will create a separate topic for us to discuss further actions.

Thank you

Hi PPTP,

I am in for any type of complaint and getting BC is no longer interesting for me but I really like to get the fee I paid or any other type of damage that I can get.
I contacted a solicitor as well and o am going to send home office a pre action letter as well.
Solicitor said usually when they receive this letter they apologise for the delay and then they send you the decision letter within 2 weeks but this letter will cost the applicant between £500 to £800 and as HO knows that they think efugees won't do that.
As I understood HO use this to delay refugees application as much as like as refugees are the most vulnerable applicants.
Shame on HO and I wish I had never come to UK.
Thanks

Refugees are not the only applicants who experience delays. Unclear why a the refugees route applicants think there is some vendetta against a you. There is NOT. We have a member who applied in mid 3016 and is sti waiting and NOT a refugee. Many others, even spouse of British citizens have waited more than 6 months.

Ho makes enquiries with your home countries, this can take a long time.

Citizenship is not a right or an entiltment, it is a privilege and ho needs to do all the checks they need to do before granting someone the privilege. Not getting a quick decision doesn't put your life on hold, you have ilr after all.

CR001 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:12 pm

winter1234 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:03 pm

PPTP wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:02 pm

winter1234 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:13 pm

Hello everyone,
I applied for naturalisation in middle of July 2019 and it is more than 9 months now.
I contacted HO several times and every time they provided me with a stupid excuse.
I made a complaint and received another stupid response.
I filled the form of ombudsman and sent it to my MP for signature.
To be honest I am not interested in British Nationality anymore but I will chase my complaint and I will do legal action for this matter.
I applied through refugee route and as I know people who applied through this route usually wait more than others without any clear reason.
I think everyone who have same situation should make a complaint and chase it up to the end.
This is the only way to deal with this rubbish department.

Hello Winter1234

I completely support you and everyone who suffers the massive delays must do the complaint. If no clear reply, send the complaint to the ombudsman. I am sure MP will sign it easily because they are also fed up with home office.

It is majority of refugees suffer the most delay. We think to arrange a collective letter to various social organizations, including my House of Parliament and House of Lords.

If you support let me know. I will create a separate topic for us to discuss further actions.

Thank you

Hi PPTP,

I am in for any type of complaint and getting BC is no longer interesting for me but I really like to get the fee I paid or any other type of damage that I can get.
I contacted a solicitor as well and o am going to send home office a pre action letter as well.
Solicitor said usually when they receive this letter they apologise for the delay and then they send you the decision letter within 2 weeks but this letter will cost the applicant between £500 to £800 and as HO knows that they think efugees won't do that.
As I understood HO use this to delay refugees application as much as like as refugees are the most vulnerable applicants.
Shame on HO and I wish I had never come to UK.
Thanks

Refugees are not the only applicants who experience delays. Unclear why a the refugees route applicants think there is some vendetta against a you. There is NOT. We have a member who applied in mid 3016 and is sti waiting and NOT a refugee. Many others, even spouse of British citizens have waited more than 6 months.

Ho makes enquiries with your home countries and many other departments, this can take a long time.

Citizenship is not a right or an entiltment, it is a privilege and ho needs to do all the checks they need to do before granting someone the privilege. Not getting a quick decision doesn't put your life on hold, you have ilr after all.

You can't sue ho for "damages" because of a delay in an application that is not a right.