ESC

Click the "allow" button if you want to receive important news and updates from immigrationboards.com


Immigrationboards.com: Immigration, work visa and work permit discussion board

Welcome to immigrationboards.com!

Login Register Do not show

Is my Rhodesian father British by descent?

A section for posts relating to applications for Naturalisation or Registration as a British Citizen. Naturalisation

Moderators: Casa, archigabe, CR001, push, JAJ, ca.funke, Amber, zimba, vinny, Obie, EUsmileWEallsmile, batleykhan, meself2, geriatrix, John, ChetanOjha

Locked
mark2508
Newly Registered
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:52 am

Is my Rhodesian father British by descent?

Post by mark2508 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:03 am

I am an American citizen living in California with my father who is also an American citizen.

My father was born in Rhodesia in 1940. His parents were also both born in Rhodesia.

He was issued with a British Passport in 1970.

Would it be possible for me to get a British Passport?

VR
Senior Member
Posts: 688
Joined: Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:34 am

Your Date of Birth is needed

Post by VR » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:31 pm

Mark,

When were you born?? Let us know and we will see what chances you stand?
cheers
VR

mark2508
Newly Registered
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:52 am

Re: Your Date of Birth is needed

Post by mark2508 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:49 am

VR wrote:Mark,

When were you born?? Let us know and we will see what chances you stand?
cheers
VR
I was born in 1975 in Utah, USA.

Can you tell me why my date of birth is relevant. I thought that my eligibility for a passport would lie with the exact nature of my father's British citizenship?

vinny
Moderator
Posts: 33338
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:58 pm

Re: Possible to tell type of Citizenship by examining passpo

Post by vinny » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:06 am

mark2508 wrote:It seems there are many types of Citizenship that one could have (some may be historical):

British Citizen by birth
British Citizen by descent
British Overseas Citizen
and so forth

Is it possible to determine the type of Citizenship somebody has by looking at their passport or do you have to examine supporting documentation e.g. birth certificate, parents or grandparents birth certificate etc to make a determination?
This is not intended to be legal or professional advice in any jurisdiction. Please click on any given links for further information. Refer to the source of any quotes.
We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.

vinny
Moderator
Posts: 33338
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:58 pm

Post by vinny » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:07 am

No. It may be difficult to tell just from the passport without further documents.

Type of citizenship is also relevant for you.

If a holder was born in the UK prior to 1983, then one may deduce citizenship by birth in the UK.

However, type of citizenship, if born outside the UK, may be difficult to deduce. There may be other factors, such as parent's occupation.
This is not intended to be legal or professional advice in any jurisdiction. Please click on any given links for further information. Refer to the source of any quotes.
We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.

Amber
Moderator
Posts: 17536
Joined: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:20 am
Location: England, UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Post by Amber » Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:03 am

Sounds like the father may be a British subject. On his passport under nationality does it say British Subject?

See http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/briti ... hsubjects/ and http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/briti ... /children/ and perhaps go from there.
**this forum is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice**
Click here to send me a PM regarding an offensive post. Do NOT PM me for immigration advice.

VR
Senior Member
Posts: 688
Joined: Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:34 am

One more question

Post by VR » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:08 pm

Mark,

Apologies for the late response. Was caught up with several things. I have one more question. What kind of passport did your father hold? By this I mean what kind of stamp he had on his passport? Check the below link for the different categories (I posted for another user).

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=142987
cheers
VR

JAJ
Moderator
Posts: 3977
Joined: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:29 pm
Australia

Post by JAJ » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:24 pm

Southern Rhodesia was treated as an independent Commonwealth country for nationality purposes from 1949. However, there are a number of special British nationality provisions made that affected Southern Rhodesia:

- the establishment of the Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland in 1957 and its subsequent dissolution at the end of 1963; and
- following the declaration of independence in 1965, certain provisions were made to allow Southern Rhodesians become U.K. & Colonies citizens.

If a British passport was issued in 1970, it would be necessary to know (as a start) where and how it was issued, and in particular, what is said for nationality status.

Locked