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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by mylastdaysofdisco » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:13 am

vinny wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:28 am
Option 1 Use of maiden name is less complicated, especially when you are using your maiden name in all other documents.
Thanks vinny. I agree.

Was there anyone in this thread who was successful doing Option 1? Most experiences in this thread were already submitted applications and have written in their married name, isn't it?

Will I be able to change to my married name in my (future) British passport somewhere down the line - say in a few months/years' time? Will there be an issue in doing so?

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by vinny » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:26 am

They expect your name to be the same in all your documents.
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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by GRAC1ELA » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:27 am

We now have a similar problem. My wife has dual Nationality, Argentina and UK. She has lived in England for 38 years, worked, and receives a full State pension. She was granted British Citizenship in 1989 under her previous married name, with her maiden name also stated on the Certificate of registration. Her Argentine passport also in her previous married name expired 30 years ago, but which is not cancelled. She has held a valid UK passport for the same amount of time, having renewed it twice, the last time including the change of her previous married name to her current married name. Her UK passport expires in June 2018, so we applied for renewal in February. We couldn't do it before, as we were abroad. The Passport Office insisted that we had to also send the expired Argentine passport. I even spoke to the PO while we were abroad asking what was the relevance as it expired 30 years ago, and it would be ignored anyway if my wife tried to renew it. I was not, at any time, informed that it had to be in the same name, and there is no reference to this in the online guidance notes. Hey ho, the renewal is refused. We have booked and paid for flights to BA 31st March, as her son is getting married there. I have had 5 long discussions with the PO, am £25 so far down on tracked and signed-for postage. We found that Argentina these days only issue passports in a woman's maiden name, which, by the way, I think is a good idea, so now we have to go to the Argentine Consulate in London, to get a new temporary Argentine passport, change the name on the flight ticket, all for around £300. They will also notify the PO, what good that will do, we don't know yet, because they can't even tell me that they have received my letter that was delivered a week ago, and anyway they have all probably drowned by now in this obstructive bureaucracy. They gave me reasons of security, or the world is upside down, I can't remember which.

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by vinny » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:31 am

Can you make a claim against HMPO for expenses paid? Send them copies of receipts.
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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by naui » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:17 am

Hi Everyone,

I have been following this thread because, as Spanish, I can change my name after marriage (Spanish law does not contemplate changes of surname, except for very extraordinary circumstances). I hope my contributions helps any Spaniard or other national of a country where surnames can't be changed!

In UK I changed my surname as my husbands' one is short and easy (convenience more than anything).
My Naturalisation certificate was issued with my married name.

When I applied for my passport, HMPO contacted me as my Spanish passport is on my maiden name. The letter gave me to options:
"For us to issue a passport on your married name you need to change the name shown on your Spanish passport [...] or if this cannot be done we will need a letter from the Spanish Embassy stating your name can not be changed in your Spanish passport."

I did the second and sent the letter issued by the Spanish Consulate in London together with a "Certificate of Diversity of Surnames" (Certificado de diversidad de Apellidos) issued by the Spanish Civil Registry.

I've done a lot of research on forums about what to do and I have to say that HMPO was not a pain at all with my case. The contrary! Once this was received the passport was issued in 2 days! I have heard though, it depends a lot on who handles your passport application. Maybe I just got lucky!
I want to think that things are getting better. But you have to do your homework.

My passport has as annotation that I have a Spanish Passport valid until MM/YYYY that has my maiden name XXX YYY ZZZ.

Hope it helps!!!

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by Sunshine2018 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:27 pm

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Hi! I have the same problem before although my Philippine passport was cancelled since 2012. When I renew my passport this time I changed my name via deedpoll and it was refused and I received a letter from HMPO that they cannot issue me a British passport if I have a different name in my Philippine passport. I just followed what they require to get a letter from Philippines embassy declaring if I cannot change my name in my other passport I should asked a letter from Philippine embassy stating I have cancelled my other citizenship as it shows in the image I attached. Then my new passport was approved.

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by ronartt » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:10 am

Hi Naui, I'm in a very similar position. When I applied for my first British passport (2012) I didn't have any problems. I had changed my name by Deed Poll after naturalisation (so my naturalisation certificate is under my Spanish name). However, I can now see that the guidance was introduced in 2015 with amendments in 2016 so this will affect me when I renew my British passport in 2022 (I guess I can keep my passport as it is until then?)

Naui - have you had any issues in Spain, for example if you have a bank account under your Spanish name and bank accounts in UK under your new name?

I've written to the Spanish Consulate for advice on this, but I'm wary of letting HMPO know until I know what to do for sure... My plan was to carry on as normal with my British passport under a different name until it's time to renew it.

naui wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:17 am
Hi Everyone,

I have been following this thread because, as Spanish, I can change my name after marriage (Spanish law does not contemplate changes of surname, except for very extraordinary circumstances). I hope my contributions helps any Spaniard or other national of a country where surnames can't be changed!

In UK I changed my surname as my husbands' one is short and easy (convenience more than anything).
My Naturalisation certificate was issued with my married name.

When I applied for my passport, HMPO contacted me as my Spanish passport is on my maiden name. The letter gave me to options:
"For us to issue a passport on your married name you need to change the name shown on your Spanish passport [...] or if this cannot be done we will need a letter from the Spanish Embassy stating your name can not be changed in your Spanish passport."

I did the second and sent the letter issued by the Spanish Consulate in London together with a "Certificate of Diversity of Surnames" (Certificado de diversidad de Apellidos) issued by the Spanish Civil Registry.

I've done a lot of research on forums about what to do and I have to say that HMPO was not a pain at all with my case. The contrary! Once this was received the passport was issued in 2 days! I have heard though, it depends a lot on who handles your passport application. Maybe I just got lucky!
I want to think that things are getting better. But you have to do your homework.

My passport has as annotation that I have a Spanish Passport valid until MM/YYYY that has my maiden name XXX YYY ZZZ.

Hope it helps!!!

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by naui » Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:34 pm

Hi,
No, I had no problems so far. When asked to identify myself in Spain I show my Spanish Passport. In UK I show my British one. If I have a British document with my British surname that I need to use in Spain, I provided the "Certificado de diversidad de apellidos" where it is stated that you are: Name XXX YYY in Spain and Name ZZZZ in UK.
I don't know what kind of problems are you imagining that can't be solved with these.
The Spanish consulate provided a document (letter) stating that changes of surnames are not accepted in Spain, this is the document I submitted to the HMPO during my application (together with the Certificado as a suporting document).
Hope it helps.


ronartt wrote:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:10 am
Hi Naui, I'm in a very similar position. When I applied for my first British passport (2012) I didn't have any problems. I had changed my name by Deed Poll after naturalisation (so my naturalisation certificate is under my Spanish name). However, I can now see that the guidance was introduced in 2015 with amendments in 2016 so this will affect me when I renew my British passport in 2022 (I guess I can keep my passport as it is until then?)

Naui - have you had any issues in Spain, for example if you have a bank account under your Spanish name and bank accounts in UK under your new name?

I've written to the Spanish Consulate for advice on this, but I'm wary of letting HMPO know until I know what to do for sure... My plan was to carry on as normal with my British passport under a different name until it's time to renew it.

naui wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:17 am
Hi Everyone,

I have been following this thread because, as Spanish, I can change my name after marriage (Spanish law does not contemplate changes of surname, except for very extraordinary circumstances). I hope my contributions helps any Spaniard or other national of a country where surnames can't be changed!

In UK I changed my surname as my husbands' one is short and easy (convenience more than anything).
My Naturalisation certificate was issued with my married name.

When I applied for my passport, HMPO contacted me as my Spanish passport is on my maiden name. The letter gave me to options:
"For us to issue a passport on your married name you need to change the name shown on your Spanish passport [...] or if this cannot be done we will need a letter from the Spanish Embassy stating your name can not be changed in your Spanish passport."

I did the second and sent the letter issued by the Spanish Consulate in London together with a "Certificate of Diversity of Surnames" (Certificado de diversidad de Apellidos) issued by the Spanish Civil Registry.

I've done a lot of research on forums about what to do and I have to say that HMPO was not a pain at all with my case. The contrary! Once this was received the passport was issued in 2 days! I have heard though, it depends a lot on who handles your passport application. Maybe I just got lucky!
I want to think that things are getting better. But you have to do your homework.

My passport has as annotation that I have a Spanish Passport valid until MM/YYYY that has my maiden name XXX YYY ZZZ.

Hope it helps!!!

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by cariasc » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:51 am

I have the same problem than you.
Do you know in which Venezuelan legislation is explained how the last names are used in Venezuela if you are married and you use your husband last name?
Thanks

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by Marikistin » Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:18 pm

Hi Sunshine may i ask if you personally had to go to the Philippine embassy to request this or can you email them?Gathering as much info as i can. Many thanks.

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by renoa » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:44 pm

Hi Naui,

I am in the same situation. I requested the "Certificate of Diversity of Surnames" at the Spanish Consulate in London, but they would only issue a generic letter stating that Spaniards cannot change my surname.

What steps did you take to get the "Certificate of Diversity of Surnames"?
naui wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:17 am
Hi Everyone,

I have been following this thread because, as Spanish, I can change my name after marriage (Spanish law does not contemplate changes of surname, except for very extraordinary circumstances). I hope my contributions helps any Spaniard or other national of a country where surnames can't be changed!

In UK I changed my surname as my husbands' one is short and easy (convenience more than anything).
My Naturalisation certificate was issued with my married name.

When I applied for my passport, HMPO contacted me as my Spanish passport is on my maiden name. The letter gave me to options:
"For us to issue a passport on your married name you need to change the name shown on your Spanish passport [...] or if this cannot be done we will need a letter from the Spanish Embassy stating your name can not be changed in your Spanish passport."

I did the second and sent the letter issued by the Spanish Consulate in London together with a "Certificate of Diversity of Surnames" (Certificado de diversidad de Apellidos) issued by the Spanish Civil Registry.

I've done a lot of research on forums about what to do and I have to say that HMPO was not a pain at all with my case. The contrary! Once this was received the passport was issued in 2 days! I have heard though, it depends a lot on who handles your passport application. Maybe I just got lucky!
I want to think that things are getting better. But you have to do your homework.

My passport has as annotation that I have a Spanish Passport valid until MM/YYYY that has my maiden name XXX YYY ZZZ.

Hope it helps!!!

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by Nancy DD » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:14 pm

noajthan wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:03 pm
LiaDoe wrote:I am also have the same problem. I have applied for my first British passport and been refused on grounds that in my foreign passport - old name and I applied for a British passport in new name :?
Certificate of Naturalisation issued in my new name.
Managed to find : https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... f-name.pdf
Hello, yes an interesting guidance document.

What I know & believe is:
in the UK, anyone can use any name for regular, lawful purposes;

There is no requirement to have a single name
- for example, many people can (& do) retain their maiden name
or use a stage name
&/or use a professional name for their own purposes;

Women do not have to adopt the husband's name on marriage (& vice versa);
- in other countries, (eg Italy, Mexico, Morocco), it seems a woman's documents can (or do) remain in her maiden name for official purposes, even after marriage;

Worldwide there are many different cultural practices & traditions surrounding name change;
eg in my wife's case, it's a Filipino tradition, which seems to be based on (but a variation of) a Latin-American or perhaps Hispanic tradition

Many dual-nationals do hold & do travel on passports held in different names, whether it's by design or for expediency (or even just to save on an inconvenient & time-consuming extra bunch of paperwork)
However, it appears there is a new or changed UK policy regarding UK identity documents - as seems to be shown by this Names document.
It can only apply in UK as UK does not have juridiction over passports issued by other countries.
It seems the fact this can apply to UK documents only is not specified clearly in the document :!:

So it seems officials aren't aware of that when they apply the policy for applications from dual-nationals &/or for applications from recent citizens that happen to involve a maiden/surname change.

Although name changes are captured in the application form there are no questions about dual-nationals.
The act of becoming a British citizen impacts prior citizenship in different ways...
In India the prior nationality is lost because dual-nationality is not permitted under Indian law.
For a Filipino becoming British, the Filipino nationality would have to be reacquired, (it's optional).
So in my wife's case her Filipino passport can no longer be valid & so it cannot 'clash' with any new British passport.

PO officials are obviously applying the checks to passports over which they have no jurisdiction as well as checking against UK documents; they don't appear to take account of dual-nationality in any case :!:

For consumers, such as ourselves, it's unfortunate none of this is clear in the passport guide booklet :!:
It's also unfortunate the Post Office NCS service don't seem aware & so don't pick up on this when vetting passports & certificates.

The Names guidance document clearly includes the option of adding an 'observation' about a maiden name in a British passport
I don't see why the PO can't just do that in our cases :?: :!:
This is of particular interest to me since I will be a dual national once I have attended my citizenship ceremony, and it's a question that has been playing on my mind since I started the application process back in October last year. My home country (Belgium) issues all official ID documentation in a woman's maiden name, regardless of married status; my current passport mentions my husband's fore- and surname, but not all the versions of the same passport, issued via the Belgian Embassy in London, that I have had since 1988 have included this, and the two that did, did not show it in an identical manner. So, having now had it confirmed by someone in the Home Office that the name on my citizenship certificate will be my full married name but with what looks, in the gov.uk website and all accompanying correspondence, like an instruction to change my maiden name on my valid Belgian passport and ID-card, which is not possible, it seems that I could apply for my first British passport with evidence showing my married name being used 'for all purposes' for the past 31 years supported by several of the official documentation that is already in my married name: my UK driving licence, NHS record, GP surgery & HMRC registration, my original residence permit, bank statements, letter from my local council (I'm on the local electoral roll, have just received my postal vote request for the EU elections next month) etc., I'm hoping this will be sufficient to illustrate the fact that I am not acquiring an 'alias' with the intent of committing fraud or criminal acts, since the difference with my name at birth is only my husband's 3-letter surname and the hyphen that links both names. I have contacted my Embassy and have been told that for them to confirm that I am not allowed to change my name in my foreign passport and ID-card, I would have to submit a completed form, for a fee, which is only issued in 2 of the country's official languages - so I would then also have to have it translated by a licenced translator, for a fee, and I'm trying to avoid racking up more expense. I would be interested to hear of other, similar experiences.
- I apologise for the use of so many commas, but it seems that bracketed sections are treated as smilies, and when I clicked 'submit', I was told I had too many smilies, when I actually did not have any in this reply -

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by dita7 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:16 pm

I've been reading this forum for a while as it's packed with stacks of useful information, and I thought I'll share my experience of recently applying for a British passport. In my case it might be more complicated as after naturalising in December, I changed my first names and my surname (to match my husbands) via Deed Poll. On top of it, I have two passports/nationalities one of which is Russian. Both (foreign) passports issued in my old names (prior to Deed Poll). I do need my Russian passport as I work for an international company and have customers in Russia, thus just using my Russian passport as visa to Russia. Prior to Deed Poll I asked my mom (who is Russian) whether I will be able to change names in Russia and she said no, whilst I know for a fact that my other passport (West European) would not accept any changes to either first or last names. I have explained this all in my cover letter to HMPO (as suggested by some forumers), but it didn’t help as 2nd letter from HMPO suggest they just ignored it completely. First letter requested the original of naturalisation certificate, which is weird as they issued it and can check it without physical copy. In 2017 there was request for FOI to HO and I believe statistics showed most of rejected applications allocated to women, thus the new rules requesting “the proof” are just a delay tactic to make you withdraw your application rather than for them cancelling it. This way they also can justify pocketing your money. I have made an honest application and declaration to HMPO, but unfortunately until they get somebody who understand all complexities of One Name principle and have a bit of common sense to make reasonable requests.

I asked for issue to be resolved by adding “a note on the observation page”, which would read “The bearer of this passport holds a ***** passport in ******* name due to expire ****** with ******** passport number”. I believe this was echoed by document called “Use and Change of Names” issue by Home Office dating 16 August 2016. This morning I noticed there is a new document for “Use and Change of Names” from January 2019. If HMPO will refuse this (observation page route), I will have to withdraw my application simply because I don’t have the money and a year of life to go around changing things which do not make any sense…… very disheartening

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by dita7 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:56 pm

just a small update (if anybody interested), Peterborough Office ignored by request for observation-route page for the second time, and pushing for changing name(s) on other passports and I quote "if the issuing authority advises that the amendment can only be completed by returning to the country of issue, this process must be followed". The reason stated is "this is for public protection purposes and prevents the potential fraudulent and criminal use of passports in two different identities." Any person with a bit common sense would know that if a person has opportunity to change their identity, they would be able to do so before and/or after applying for British passport. In addition to rejecting/delaying indefinitely my application, they didn't send back my original documents and having read stories that Vital immigration papers lost by UK Home Office I am starting to be more worried about my documents than anything else. It's been over 25 hours I asked them to email or call me to let me know when they will send those original supporting documents back but no information so far. Naturalisation certificate costs £250 to replace, Deed Poll £25 (+ postage), but the most important, dear and sentimental to me is my original marriage certificate...... Regrettably, HMPO is the most incompetent and unprofessional government organisation I've ever dealt with.... this is very sad, but if you want to apply for British passport, save yourself a lot of stress, time and money.... don't apply.
Unfortunately One Name rule by HMPO discriminates against non-UK born (naturalised) British citizens as that is one category of people who are purposely not given opportunity to enter other passports on the observation page of the passport. The only two countries that would issue an email/"letter of proof" are Spain and Italy. If anybody else has countries to add to the list it would be very appreciated.

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by obm » Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:22 pm

dita7 wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:56 pm
just a small update (if anybody interested), Peterborough Office ignored by request for observation-route page for the second time, and pushing for changing name(s) on other passports and I quote "if the issuing authority advises that the amendment can only be completed by returning to the country of issue, this process must be followed". The reason stated is "this is for public protection purposes and prevents the potential fraudulent and criminal use of passports in two different identities." Any person with a bit common sense would know that if a person has opportunity to change their identity, they would be able to do so before and/or after applying for British passport. In addition to rejecting/delaying indefinitely my application, they didn't send back my original documents and having read stories that Vital immigration papers lost by UK Home Office I am starting to be more worried about my documents than anything else. It's been over 25 hours I asked them to email or call me to let me know when they will send those original supporting documents back but no information so far. Naturalisation certificate costs £250 to replace, Deed Poll £25 (+ postage), but the most important, dear and sentimental to me is my original marriage certificate...... Regrettably, HMPO is the most incompetent and unprofessional government organisation I've ever dealt with.... this is very sad, but if you want to apply for British passport, save yourself a lot of stress, time and money.... don't apply.
Unfortunately One Name rule by HMPO discriminates against non-UK born (naturalised) British citizens as that is one category of people who are purposely not given opportunity to enter other passports on the observation page of the passport. The only two countries that would issue an email/"letter of proof" are Spain and Italy. If anybody else has countries to add to the list it would be very appreciated.
Hi, same issue here with dual national (Russian passport) - PO refuses an observation of married name. I think you can legally change your name in Motherland - you have to change your birth certificate while you are there, then your internal passport, then apply for a new international passport (from here). The only problem as I see is that RF Internal ministry will be transliterating your married name from Latin alphabet into Cyrillics in your new birth certificate (in God knows what bizzare way), which will be obviously difficult to translate back into Latin (e.g. John - Dzhon), which will cause even further complications with HMPO down the line, as neither of the passports will match any of the names...
I would advise not to withdraw application, as it can go on indefinitely, as long as you insist in writing. As regards replacing Naturalisation certificate - I thought that's only if it's lost or damaged or there was a genuine mistake previously. "[Naturalisation certificates] are records of events and changes to these records are not covered by this policy" (p.10, HMPO Use and Change of Names, 28 January 2019 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 1.0ext.pdf). Does it actually mean "they don't care" if you do??? Alternatively, another costly solution in your case could be applying for a Right of Abode sticker in your other passport for (merely samll sum!!!) of £372... I wish there could be another solution...

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by dita7 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:46 am

obm wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:22 pm
Hi, same issue here with dual national (Russian passport) - PO refuses an observation of married name. I think you can legally change your name in Motherland - you have to change your birth certificate while you are there, then your internal passport, then apply for a new international passport (from here). The only problem as I see is that RF Internal ministry will be transliterating your married name from Latin alphabet into Cyrillics in your new birth certificate (in God knows what bizzare way), which will be obviously difficult to translate back into Latin (e.g. John - Dzhon), which will cause even further complications with HMPO down the line, as neither of the passports will match any of the names...
HMPO provided me with a long-winded explanation how to change Russian passport (don't think you need to change your birth certificate you mentioned), however as you further elaborated, the problems can arise as follows:
o A Russian passport displays its holder’s name in two alphabets – Cyrillic and Latin, however the document always contains 1 less name in Latin than in Cyrillic, simply because patronymic names are never translated on Russian official documents. I provided HMPO with an email from the Russian embassy confirming this fact. I am aware of cases where HMPO have insisted Russian people “get rid” of their patronymic names on their Russian passport to match the number of names in Cyrillic and Latin in their Russian passport. Again, this is an Unfair and Unreasonable request as this request cannot be fulfilled in accordance with Russian law;
o Should someone request a change of names in their Russian passport, their English names will be translated into Russian and then back into English for the purposes of issuing an external/travel passport. However, translation is done by means of transliteration, and as we know, in many cases final transliterated names will be spelt differently and may not match the spelling on other British documents. Having read stories on my predecessors who went through the stress, expense and time to follow this HMPO requirements, their applications for British passports were subsequently rejected. Russian people can’t dictate to the Russian government on spelling, therefore your suggestion to change names in my Russian passport are yet again deemed unreasonable.

As for EU citizens who can't change their names (like myself), I provided HMPO with a letter from the Consular, with the letter having the same legal power under UK law as an official email. HMPO's examiner twisted the Consular's words upon disgusting degree, ignored additional information provided and rejected British passport on the ground that, according to his lies (ignorant, biased and unprofessional assessment), the names can be changed! The level is service and assumptions which contradict other countries actual laws is just shocking!

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by obm » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:26 pm

dita7 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:46 am
HMPO provided me with a long-winded explanation how to change Russian passport (don't think you need to change your birth certificate you mentioned), however as you further elaborated, the problems can arise as follows:
o A Russian passport displays its holder’s name in two alphabets – Cyrillic and Latin, however the document always contains 1 less name in Latin than in Cyrillic, simply because patronymic names are never translated on Russian official documents. I provided HMPO with an email from the Russian embassy confirming this fact. I am aware of cases where HMPO have insisted Russian people “get rid” of their patronymic names on their Russian passport to match the number of names in Cyrillic and Latin in their Russian passport. Again, this is an Unfair and Unreasonable request as this request cannot be fulfilled in accordance with Russian law;
o Should someone request a change of names in their Russian passport, their English names will be translated into Russian and then back into English for the purposes of issuing an external/travel passport. However, translation is done by means of transliteration, and as we know, in many cases final transliterated names will be spelt differently and may not match the spelling on other British documents. Having read stories on my predecessors who went through the stress, expense and time to follow this HMPO requirements, their applications for British passports were subsequently rejected. Russian people can’t dictate to the Russian government on spelling, therefore your suggestion to change names in my Russian passport are yet again deemed unreasonable.

As for EU citizens who can't change their names (like myself), I provided HMPO with a letter from the Consular, with the letter having the same legal power under UK law as an official email. HMPO's examiner twisted the Consular's words upon disgusting degree, ignored additional information provided and rejected British passport on the ground that, according to his lies (ignorant, biased and unprofessional assessment), the names can be changed! The level is service and assumptions which contradict other countries actual laws is just shocking!
Indeed, very bizzare situation. Perhaps it's a combination of usual HO's "hostile environment" with a post-Crimea/Skripal anti-Russian stance of UKG, where we are all being punished...
I think it could still be the case that one has to change birth certificate (in cases of entire/partial name change: https://pora-valit.livejournal.com/4888 ... t562616545)
Didn't know Rusemb could provide an email re: patronymic issue.
I think it's time to go to your MP for help? Good luck. Would be interested in your updates

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by dita7 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:50 pm

obm wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:26 pm
I think it's time to go to your MP for help? Good luck. Would be interested in your updates
I think it's a good idea to contact my MP, but beforehand I would like to collect all the facts. I asked my case worker and HMPO's complaints team four times in total why observation page can't be used for dual nationals? It is a right of a British person, I am a British person with a family, job and house settled in the UK. I think there been a lot of discussions about flaws in One Name policy, I am wondering, however, to start with a couple of FOI to see if I can get any sensible response from HMPO.... As for Russian people I (in my humble option) think that HMPO put Russian people at risk asking them to change their passports - as you said tension between UK and RUS (to which none of us have any relation to) might simply result in a situation we see today with poor Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe, where normal people become pawns in government's cruel game.

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by majamc » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:45 pm

Marikistin wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:18 pm
Hi Sunshine may i ask if you personally had to go to the Philippine embassy to request this or can you email them?Gathering as much info as i can. Many thanks.
Hi Marikistin! have you applied for your British passport? Did you go to the Philippine Embassy for the certification. Let me know please as I am in the same situation and gathering information as well. Thank you.

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Re: Passport refused - uncancelled passport in maiden name

Post by majamc » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:48 pm

Sunshine2018 wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:27 pm
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Hi! I have the same problem before although my Philippine passport was cancelled since 2012. When I renew my passport this time I changed my name via deedpoll and it was refused and I received a letter from HMPO that they cannot issue me a British passport if I have a different name in my Philippine passport. I just followed what they require to get a letter from Philippines embassy declaring if I cannot change my name in my other passport I should asked a letter from Philippine embassy stating I have cancelled my other citizenship as it shows in the image I attached. Then my new passport was approved.
Hi Sunshine! Did you go personally to Philippine Embassy to get the certificate? How long did it take you. Hope to hear from you soonest. Thank a lot!

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