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Surprised Brits

Post by vinny » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:55 pm

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Re: Surprised Brits

Post by vinny » Sun May 15, 2016 1:50 pm

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Re: Surprised Brits

Post by CR001 » Sun May 15, 2016 1:57 pm

I read this in the Daily Mail yesterday and as much as I sympathise with a fellow Saffa, ignorance should not and cannot be an excuse, especially given that the media, political parties and government have for many years very publicly been pushing the facts about immigration and changes to immigration etc. UK papers are 'sensationlist', they don't report the full story usually.
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Re: Surprised Brits

Post by vinny » Sun May 15, 2016 2:03 pm

Wonder when exactly did she enter the UK in 1962?

Was she granted settlement on entry?

Was she subject to Commonwealth Immigrants Act 1962?

etc.
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Re: Surprised Brits

Post by CR001 » Sun May 15, 2016 3:16 pm

vinny wrote:Wonder when exactly did she enter the UK in 1962?

Was she granted settlement on entry?

Was she subject to Commonwealth Immigrants Act 1962?

etc.
South Africa was not part of the Commonwealth in 1962.
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Re: Surprised Brits

Post by vinny » Sun May 15, 2016 11:13 pm

Ah, yes.

So, in the absence of restrictive immigration acts, wouldn't that make it even more likely that the family was granted settlement at that time?
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Re: Surprised Brits

Post by secret.simon » Sun May 15, 2016 11:33 pm

Also see South Africa Act 1962 (as enacted).

For the purposes of British nationality, South Africans only lost their status as British subjects/Commonwealth citizens on 31st May 1962. So, the date of the lady's entry into the UK may be quite relevant.

In any case, under that Act, South Africans in the UK could register as citizens any time before the end of 1965 and even, if they gave notice of intent of doing so before 1965, by the end of 1970. That was a lot of slack in the law at the time.

Also, at the time, citizenship was passed down solely through the father and it is possible that the lady in question did not have CUKC status or patriality from the father's side. But would it be possible for her to claim British citizenship through her mother's side now, if such a claim exists?
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Re: Surprised Brits

Post by Richard W » Mon May 16, 2016 8:41 pm

secret.simon wrote:Also, at the time, citizenship was passed down solely through the father and it is possible that the lady in question did not have CUKC status or patriality from the father's side. But would it be possible for her to claim British citizenship through her mother's side now, if such a claim exists?
Surely, not until 2026, if she's an illegal immigrant.

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Re: Surprised Brits

Post by vinny » Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:53 pm

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Re: Surprised Brits

Post by vinny » Thu May 04, 2017 11:15 pm

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Re: Surprised Brits

Post by CR001 » Fri May 05, 2017 11:51 am

Made this an 'announcement' vinny so that always at top of sub forum page for ease.
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Re: Surprised Brits

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Re: Surprised Brits

Post by secret.simon » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:16 am

Man born in UK receives letter from Home Office ordering him to leave country
Shane Ridge has lived in the UK his entire life and thought he was a British citizen until last week.

He should be eligible to register under either Form UKF or Form T.
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Re: Surprised Brits

Post by CR001 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:27 am

secret.simon wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:16 am
Man born in UK receives letter from Home Office ordering him to leave country
Shane Ridge has lived in the UK his entire life and thought he was a British citizen until last week.

He should be eligible to register under either Form UKF or Form T.
There was another article about another person today. What is annoying is that a lot of these articles don't get the fact right. I have even given up commenting on the articles.
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Re: Surprised Brits

Post by vinny » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:41 am

secret.simon wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:16 am
Man born in UK receives letter from Home Office ordering him to leave country
Shane Ridge has lived in the UK his entire life and thought he was a British citizen until last week.

He should be eligible to register under either Form UKF or Form T.

If his mother is British (by descent), then he's automatically British.
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Re: Surprised Brits

Post by vinny » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:12 pm

It's seems likely that his mother was settled or British or had the right of abode at the time of his birth in the UK.
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Re: Surprised Brits

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Re: Surprised Brits

Post by vinny » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:19 am

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