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mashroom1
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Should I declare a cancelled visit visa (Spouse)

Post by mashroom1 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:24 am

Hello All,

Your help and advice is much appreciated. (Apologies if it is not right forum)

My wife had a cencelled visit visa (5 Year) BEFORE she married to me and came to UK as my spouse on dependent visa. I wrote a supporting letter and informed british high comission and informed them about that when applying for dependent visa. They gave her that spouse visa and now she is on ILR.

I want to know if I should declare that old cancelled visit visa which had nothing to do with me? Even if I already declared at the embassy and even if she has an ILR now?

(She herself is always confused about that cancelled visa, it was only due to suspecion that she was comming alone on a 5 year visa and they were not satisfied that she will go back (This was not an intention (according to her), athough she had some job experience letters with her).

I am concerned if I inform HO about that, this may have impact, on the other hand if I donot inform & they come to know that may have greater impact....In both cases I am directly affected as me & my daughter are having british citizenship.

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Post by paap » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:00 am

My final Timeline

NCS or Postal: NCS
CRITERIA - 5 Years Residence + 1 year
Date of submission: 09 September 2010
Date reached HO: 10 Sep 2010
Date of Debit Card deduction: 16 Sep 2010
Date of receipt of acknowledgment letter: 23 Sep 2010 dated 16 Sep 2010
Date UKBA made decision: 27 Sep 2010
Date of receipt of approval + Ceremony Invitation letter: 04 Oct 2010
Date of ceremony - 06 Oct 2010
Date of Passport application - 8th Oct 2010 (C&S)
Date of Interview letter receipt -13th oct 2010
Date of receipt of supporting documents -13th oct 2010
Date of Passport interview - 14th oct 2010
Date of receipt of passport - 28th Oct 2010
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Post by SMOOTH OPERATOR » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:20 pm

It seems to me that if you send ur application through NCS you have 97% chance or getting ur approval and ceremony letters the same time compared to postal application. I made this assumption based on people's timeline

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Post by Generalisimus » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:04 pm

SMOOTH OPERATOR wrote:It seems to me that if you send ur application through NCS you have 97% chance or getting ur approval and ceremony letters the same time compared to postal application. I made this assumption based on people's timeline
As I can see, you included a self-addressed special delivery envelope for the approval letter, but did not include one for the ceremony invite. That is probably why you got your approval letter two days after the decision had been made and are still awaiting for the ceremony invite, which will probably come in via 2nd class post. People submitting their applications via NCS tend to receive both letters by 2nd class post, which seems to be up to ten days after the decision has been made.

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Re: Should I declare a cancelled visit visa (Spouse)

Post by Generalisimus » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:34 pm

mashroom1 wrote:Hello All,

Your help and advice is much appreciated. (Apologies if it is not right forum)

My wife had a cencelled visit visa (5 Year) BEFORE she married to me and came to UK as my spouse on dependent visa. I wrote a supporting letter and informed british high comission and informed them about that when applying for dependent visa. They gave her that spouse visa and now she is on ILR.

I want to know if I should declare that old cancelled visit visa which had nothing to do with me? Even if I already declared at the embassy and even if she has an ILR now?

(She herself is always confused about that cancelled visa, it was only due to suspecion that she was comming alone on a 5 year visa and they were not satisfied that she will go back (This was not an intention (according to her), athough she had some job experience letters with her).

I am concerned if I inform HO about that, this may have impact, on the other hand if I donot inform & they come to know that may have greater impact....In both cases I am directly affected as me & my daughter are having british citizenship.
If you are writing in relation to a potential application for naturalisation by your wife, a breach of immigration laws, no matter how minor, is a problem if it pertains to the qualifying residential period (last 3 or 5 years prior to the date of the application, depending on the basis for applying). Otherwise, it does not seem to matter. However, I would still double-check this with a solicitor, just to be on the safe side.

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Post by SMOOTH OPERATOR » Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:24 pm

Do u mean to say if one sends two pre paid envelopes UKBA will use the other for ceremony invitation rather than put everything in the same prepaid envelope intended for submitted documents

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Post by Generalisimus » Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:27 pm

SMOOTH OPERATOR wrote:Do u mean to say if one sends two pre paid envelopes UKBA will use the other for ceremony invitation rather than put everything in the same prepaid envelope intended for submitted documents
Yes, that's they way I take it.

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Post by SMOOTH OPERATOR » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:01 pm

Strange aint it

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Post by SMOOTH OPERATOR » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:01 pm

Strange aint it

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Post by Generalisimus » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:17 pm

SMOOTH OPERATOR wrote:Strange aint it
Agreed. That said, it is also strange that they are sending approvals by 2nd class post though recorded delivery cost is insignificant (less than 1%) in proportion to the application fee. Such is life.
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my timeline

Post by pp888 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:06 pm

My timeline so far

NCS or Postal: NCS Crewe
Nationality: Chinese
CRITERIA - 3 Years (Spouse + ILR)
Date of submission: 14 September 2010
Date reached HO: 15 Sep 2010
Date of Debit Card deduction: 17 Sep 2010
Date of receipt of acknowledgment letter: 23 Sep 2010
Date UKBA made decision: 28 Sep 2010
Date of receipt of approval: 4 Oct 2010 (2nd class post)
Date of receipt of Ceremony Invitation letter: 8 Oct 2010 (sent on 7 Oct , 1st class, public ceremony)
Date of ceremony - 13 Oct 2010
Date of Passport application - TBC
Date of Interview letter receipt - TBC
Date of receipt of supporting documents - TBC
Date of Passport interview - TBC
Date of receipt of passport - TBC



Thanks all. I am almost there
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Post by SMOOTH OPERATOR » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:09 pm

P888 how can u book a ceremony date without the invite

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Post by magsi23 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:53 am

SMOOTH OPERATOR wrote:P888 how can u book a ceremony date without the invite
I received my approval letter on 25th Sept, i still have not received my invitation letter from local council, I went to the local council office in person and booked one for 19th Oct, so yes you can do it.
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Post by SMOOTH OPERATOR » Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:20 am

Bolton Council told me i have to wait till i get the invitation letter, i told them i have been approved and can show them the letter and would want a private one, but lady on phone was haveing none of it

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Post by pp888 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:50 am

SMOOTH OPERATOR wrote:P888 how can u book a ceremony date without the invite
on the approval letter, it gives you a local county council contact number to arrange a ceremony appointment. On the back of the approval letter, it also gives some details of the arrangement and ceremony......It advises you to ring up the contact number asap...

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Post by SMOOTH OPERATOR » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:24 am

rang home office and was told that invitation was sent to printing dept. on the 30th of sept and i should get it around at about the 14th of october. i rand Bolton council againg and this time somebody else answered and told me the approval is fine and took my number and will ring back in 10 min to book the private ceremony for £70.00 fingers crossed.

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Post by pp888 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:45 am

SMOOTH OPERATOR wrote:rang home office and was told that invitation was sent to printing dept. on the 30th of sept and i should get it around at about the 14th of october. i rand Bolton council againg and this time somebody else answered and told me the approval is fine and took my number and will ring back in 10 min to book the private ceremony for £70.00 fingers crossed.
You dont have to book a private ceremony. A public one is already paid in our application fee. A public one could be very soon. After booking the appointment, they will send us an appointment confirmation letter, which I am waiting for now. Good luck.

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Post by pp888 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:47 am

SMOOTH OPERATOR wrote:rang home office and was told that invitation was sent to printing dept. on the 30th of sept and i should get it around at about the 14th of october. i rand Bolton council againg and this time somebody else answered and told me the approval is fine and took my number and will ring back in 10 min to book the private ceremony for £70.00 fingers crossed.
I also contacted Bolton-on-Trent one. Then I got a local county coucil very close to where I live, different from Bolton.

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Post by sami99 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:32 pm

SMOOTH OPERATOR wrote:P888 how can u book a ceremony date without the invite
You don't need an invitation to book a ceremony. For most council as long as they have alredy recived your Naturalization certificate. The will allow you to book. I did my private ceremony without invitation letter.
When i called my local council, they told me: ''We alredy received your certificate, there is no problem you can book'

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Post by beeba » Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:05 pm

centennial wrote:Hello All,

Following are the timelines for my wife who has applied on spouse visa basis.

NCS or Postal: NCS
Nationality: Indian
CRITERIA - 2 years Resident + 1 Year ILR
Date of submission: 26 August 2010
Date reached HO: 28 August 2010
Date of receipt of acknowledgment letter: 10 Sept 2010
Date of payment deduction: 03 Sept 2010
Date UKBA made decision: 13 Sept 2010
Date of receipt of approval: 17 Sept 2010
Date of receipt of Ceremony Invitation letter: 17 Sept 2010
Date of ceremony - 20 Sep 2010 (Private ceremony)
Date of Passport application - 20 Sep 2010 (C&S)
Date of Interview letter receipt - not yet
Date of Passport interview - not yet
Date of receipt of supporting documents -
Date of receipt of passport -

best of luck to everyone whoever is in transit.

regard,
Centennial



Hi centennial,

Did you receive interview letter yet? How long they are taking to update their systems with new applications?

As we sent passport application for my wife via Check and Send on 28th Sep and still they did not even have a record on their system.

While a couple of weeks before the process was very quick.

Any thoughts...

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Post by dee74 » Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:31 am

pp888 wrote:
SMOOTH OPERATOR wrote:P888 how can u book a ceremony date without the invite
on the approval letter, it gives you a local county council contact number to arrange a ceremony appointment. On the back of the approval letter, it also gives some details of the arrangement and ceremony......It advises you to ring up the contact number asap...
Strange. On my approval letter they request not to approach council until the invitation letter is received. Maybe there's some alternative Home Office confusing people with some alternative letters?

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Post by magsi23 » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:21 am

I was wondering, Has anyone received a new version of British Passport yet in October?
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Timeline - Second posting

Post by 1963British » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:32 am

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Post by SMOOTH OPERATOR » Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:26 pm

Bolton council says it recived my certificate lastweek but gave me an appointment for 14th of Oct. For a ceremony

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Post by Mhunt » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:12 pm

SMOOTH OPERATOR wrote:Bolton council says it recived my certificate lastweek but gave me an appointment for 14th of Oct. For a ceremony
Did you try to schedule a private ceremony?

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