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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by Noneeapr2017 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:55 am

mplusf wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:57 am
Hello,

My naturalization application got refused on the grounds that i wasn't present on the day of application 5 years before.
I applied with Leeds NCS on 22 Feb 2018. So per my understanding I should have been present on 22 feb 2013 which I was {This is following the examples given in the application documentation}. And I flied on 23 Feb at around 9 PM.
I discussed this with the person in contact in Leeds NCS during the day of my application and he said the dates are fine. This should not be an issue.

The refusal mail I have received from immigration has following statement - "As the application was received on 22/02/2018, you would have had to be in the united Kingdom on 23/02/2013"

So I sent my reconsideration form stating my reasons - pointing to the examples given in the form AN documentation and also attached my flight ticket on the date of travel which is 23 Feb 2013.
The fees has been deducted on 5th may 2018
I received a communication from immigration that due to high volumes there is no timeline on when my reconsideration application can be processed.
As per the rules there is timeline for main application of 6 months but no timeline for reconsideration.

I tried calling the helpline a few times to get any traction on my application status, but I received the same answer "there is no timeline"

My queries are as follows -

1) I would like to get the general understanding that how long does it have taken for any of you to get the result back on your reconsideration applications ?
2) is it worth considering applying using new application{since its already more than 4 months of my reconsideration application} than waiting for the result, as no timeline could mean an year or more also :(

Thanks in advance!
How long u been away in 2013 for

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by Salasala » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:42 pm

chiefengineer wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:44 pm
It is unbelievable. Suddenly I got a letter that I am granted British citizenship. I don't have any explanation to that. And also they don't inform me if my reconsideration form that was rejected will be reimbursed. Good luck to all.
Have you made a fresh application or was the outcome from reconsideration ?

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by smallpie » Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:35 pm

chiefengineer wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:44 pm
It is unbelievable. Suddenly I got a letter that I am granted British citizenship. I don't have any explanation to that. And also they don't inform me if my reconsideration form that was rejected will be reimbursed. Good luck to all.
I have been following your tussle with the HO on the matter.. Did you endup making a fresh application before this letter arrived ?

Cos I noticed they rejected your reconsideration application too.
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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by SuperDupper » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:12 pm

hello everyone,
I am in bit of mess and a friend recommend me this forum is very helpful and i will surely find guidance.

I am non EU national (Indian) previously married to EU (Bulgarian national) divorced and got my PR on the basis of ROR. Me and my ex are not on good terms since last few years, She involved the police once and left the home also went to court and alleged me with so called domestic violence and obtained a court order against me I went to the court challenged it but Judge said no need to go in details when you going apart. Promise us you will not harm her and we will cancel everything and nothing will be recorded against you so I gave undertaking and walk away.
Now after 2 years of that i thought to settle things down and applied for nationality in october and guess what received refusal 3 days ago not only that they gave me 10 years ban as they dont like my character. They have consider/taken that court order as a conviction which is definitely not and i dont have any criminal record they saying you failed to disclose the conviction. I even asked a solicitor before i filled the forms and he said its not a criminal conviction so therefor you need to disclose it.

after spending almost £1700 of fees what a disappointment.

What should i do? your help is much appreciated.

Thank you ll

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by alterhase58 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:13 pm

SuperDupper wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:12 pm
hello everyone,
I am in bit of mess and a friend recommend me this forum is very helpful and i will surely find guidance.

I am non EU national (Indian) previously married to EU (Bulgarian national) divorced and got my PR on the basis of ROR. Me and my ex are not on good terms since last few years, She involved the police once and left the home also went to court and alleged me with so called domestic violence and obtained a court order against me I went to the court challenged it but Judge said no need to go in details when you going apart. Promise us you will not harm her and we will cancel everything and nothing will be recorded against you so I gave undertaking and walk away.
Now after 2 years of that i thought to settle things down and applied for nationality in october and guess what received refusal 3 days ago not only that they gave me 10 years ban as they dont like my character. They have consider/taken that court order as a conviction which is definitely not and i dont have any criminal record they saying you failed to disclose the conviction. I even asked a solicitor before i filled the forms and he said its not a criminal conviction so therefor you need to disclose it.

after spending almost £1700 of fees what a disappointment.

What should i do? your help is much appreciated.

Thank you ll
You disclosed the court order or not? My understanding is that all court orders need to be disclosed, criminal or civil.
This is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.
Please do not send me private messages asking for advice.

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by SuperDupper » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:19 pm

no i did not disclosed it, But the order was only ex parte and was cancelled when i attend the court on first hearing.
alterhase58 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:13 pm
SuperDupper wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:12 pm
hello everyone,
I am in bit of mess and a friend recommend me this forum is very helpful and i will surely find guidance.

I am non EU national (Indian) previously married to EU (Bulgarian national) divorced and got my PR on the basis of ROR. Me and my ex are not on good terms since last few years, She involved the police once and left the home also went to court and alleged me with so called domestic violence and obtained a court order against me I went to the court challenged it but Judge said no need to go in details when you going apart. Promise us you will not harm her and we will cancel everything and nothing will be recorded against you so I gave undertaking and walk away.
Now after 2 years of that i thought to settle things down and applied for nationality in october and guess what received refusal 3 days ago not only that they gave me 10 years ban as they dont like my character. They have consider/taken that court order as a conviction which is definitely not and i dont have any criminal record they saying you failed to disclose the conviction. I even asked a solicitor before i filled the forms and he said its not a criminal conviction so therefor you need to disclose it.

after spending almost £1700 of fees what a disappointment.

What should i do? your help is much appreciated.

Thank you ll
You disclosed the court order or not? My understanding is that all court orders need to be disclosed, criminal or civil.
No I did not disclosed it cuz I thought as the order is only ex parte and was given without my representation and was cancelled when i attended the court first time
But home office was aware since when i applied for PR.
I never knew and a solicitor also advised no need to disclosed. Please advise what options have I got now?

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by alterhase58 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:29 pm

SuperDupper wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:19 pm
no i did not disclosed it, But the order was only ex parte and was cancelled when i attend the court on first hearing.
alterhase58 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:13 pm
SuperDupper wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:12 pm
hello everyone,
I am in bit of mess and a friend recommend me this forum is very helpful and i will surely find guidance.

I am non EU national (Indian) previously married to EU (Bulgarian national) divorced and got my PR on the basis of ROR. Me and my ex are not on good terms since last few years, She involved the police once and left the home also went to court and alleged me with so called domestic violence and obtained a court order against me I went to the court challenged it but Judge said no need to go in details when you going apart. Promise us you will not harm her and we will cancel everything and nothing will be recorded against you so I gave undertaking and walk away.
Now after 2 years of that i thought to settle things down and applied for nationality in october and guess what received refusal 3 days ago not only that they gave me 10 years ban as they dont like my character. They have consider/taken that court order as a conviction which is definitely not and i dont have any criminal record they saying you failed to disclose the conviction. I even asked a solicitor before i filled the forms and he said its not a criminal conviction so therefor you need to disclose it.

after spending almost £1700 of fees what a disappointment.

What should i do? your help is much appreciated.

Thank you ll
You disclosed the court order or not? My understanding is that all court orders need to be disclosed, criminal or civil.
No I did not disclosed it cuz I thought as the order is only ex parte and was given without my representation and was cancelled when i attended the court first time
But home office was aware since when i applied for PR.
I never knew and a solicitor also advised no need to disclosed. Please advise what options have I got now?
Basically, they are saying you didn't disclose it and that goes against "good character" - witholding facts.
Do you have any documentation from the court which actually states that the order was cancelled, or can obatin it? If you have something like that you could perhaps follow up with UKVI, submit documents and explain why you didn't disclose. They might accept that they are in error. But I'm not an expert in this area. Reconsideration is available, but that basically looks at whether they have applied the law correctly.
This is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.
Please do not send me private messages asking for advice.

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by smallpie » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:52 am

"But home office was aware since when i applied for PRC"

This you say home office are aware of your court issue in the past? So if they are aware before in your previous application, and you didn't declare it again in your citizenship application, I think they see that as holding informations, and goes on good character part.
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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by SuperDupper » Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:08 am

smallpie wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:52 am
"But home office was aware since when i applied for PRC"

This you say home office are aware of your court issue in the past? So if they are aware before in your previous application, and you didn't declare it again in your citizenship application, I think they see that as holding informations, and goes on good character part.

May be this is the case, i wasnt aware so my fault, whats the way move forward? What are the chances in reconsideration as it is to spend £372 on the same application or shall i go through a solicitor with new application??

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by pola 23 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:46 am

bilalburri wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:34 am
We made joint naturalisation application including me,my wife and two children based on 5years plus one on ILR.All are granted naturalisation except my wife based on good character requirement due to following.

"Basically we move house back in 2015 and did not update address on car registration paper that was on my wife name although we updated our driving licence thinking that's the only thing we need to do.In early 2017 at one point we forget to pay road tax well on time and so vehicle was clamped but was release within few hours after we pay every thing.later on DVLA send some 80 pounds fine for delay in paying tax but that letter were keep going on our previous address.because of non response DVLA refer the case to court.we had no idea about this until we receive a letter from MARSTON group that a court order(warrant of control) has been issued against my wife to pay 688 pounds fine to pay for "possession of vehicle without licence"--we were absolutely shocked.any how pay the whole fine."

We mention all above in our application for naturalisation with explaination that we were unaware about this fine until were found out by MARSTON but Home office wrote that is not enough ground to be accepted and that becomes the bases for my wife refusal.Do you think we have any legal chance to first make an appeal in court against the original fine and secondly to ask for reconsideration?

Hi..can you pls update us with your reconsideration decision ?i have a same story like you bcoz I moved to different address and got 2 CCJ on my name as I was failed to pay the parking fines.i did declare both of my CCJ in application form and is been 2 months and no reply from HO..
Thanks in advance for your reply..

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by SuperDupper » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:11 pm

SuperDupper wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:08 am
smallpie wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:52 am
"But home office was aware since when i applied for PRC"

This you say home office are aware of your court issue in the past? So if they are aware before in your previous application, and you didn't declare it again in your citizenship application, I think they see that as holding informations, and goes on good character part.

May be this is the case, i wasnt aware so my fault, whats the way move forward? What are the chances in reconsideration as it is to spend £372 on the same application or shall i go through a solicitor with new application??
Can anyone help please?
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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by Meltibz41 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:53 pm

Help needed. I was rejected in September due to “immigration breach” which occurred as a result of reapplying in 2013 July for next set of DL using wrong form after advise from HO customer rep. In response HO sent the form back, along with all my documents to my old address, even though the wrong form applied on showed my new address for correspondence. It is only after receiving mail in October for overstaying that I contact HO who tell me they sent my documents back in September 2013 to my old address.

It took me 4 months to get my documents back from the new tenants at my old address then reapplied using correct form and got extension in 04/2014. Granted IL in 07/2016 hence applied for naturalisation when I had raised enough money. I have more than 10 years residence and good character, Now the September 2018 refusal states that my qualifying period will be from 04/2019. I am £1300 out of pocket and not naturalised. So can I get away with reconsideration application and explaining the correspondence issue of sending to old address, in the hope that since I will be now within qualifying period HO consider granting Naturalisation. Also besides the form for consideration, do I send my initial naturalisation documents as well I.e passport etc with. Thanks.

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by alsanober » Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:07 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:13 pm
SuperDupper wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:12 pm
hello everyone,
I am in bit of mess and a friend recommend me this forum is very helpful and i will surely find guidance.

I am non EU national (Indian) previously married to EU (Bulgarian national) divorced and got my PR on the basis of ROR. Me and my ex are not on good terms since last few years, She involved the police once and left the home also went to court and alleged me with so called domestic violence and obtained a court order against me I went to the court challenged it but Judge said no need to go in details when you going apart. Promise us you will not harm her and we will cancel everything and nothing will be recorded against you so I gave undertaking and walk away.
Now after 2 years of that i thought to settle things down and applied for nationality in october and guess what received refusal 3 days ago not only that they gave me 10 years ban as they dont like my character. They have consider/taken that court order as a conviction which is definitely not and i dont have any criminal record they saying you failed to disclose the conviction. I even asked a solicitor before i filled the forms and he said its not a criminal conviction so therefor you need to disclose it.

after spending almost £1700 of fees what a disappointment.

What should i do? your help is much appreciated.

Thank you ll
You disclosed the court order or not? My understanding is that all court orders need to be disclosed, criminal or civil.
Hi alterhase58,

are you sure one need to disclose court proceeding whether convicted or no....?

also first time i read about civil court. that too.

we were dragged into Civil court proceeding by local authority for shake our child. Of course we never harmed our child and they had to drop the case based on Doctors reports, and this went on for 13 months. Child is 100% normal and doing very well in school.

so you reckon we should disclose this information as well? and where do you put this information on form.

there more i do research and read people stories, it makes me think blimey CAN OF WORMS LOL

thank you

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by alterhase58 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:37 am

alsanober wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:07 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:13 pm
SuperDupper wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:12 pm
hello everyone,
I am in bit of mess and a friend recommend me this forum is very helpful and i will surely find guidance.

I am non EU national (Indian) previously married to EU (Bulgarian national) divorced and got my PR on the basis of ROR. Me and my ex are not on good terms since last few years, She involved the police once and left the home also went to court and alleged me with so called domestic violence and obtained a court order against me I went to the court challenged it but Judge said no need to go in details when you going apart. Promise us you will not harm her and we will cancel everything and nothing will be recorded against you so I gave undertaking and walk away.
Now after 2 years of that i thought to settle things down and applied for nationality in october and guess what received refusal 3 days ago not only that they gave me 10 years ban as they dont like my character. They have consider/taken that court order as a conviction which is definitely not and i dont have any criminal record they saying you failed to disclose the conviction. I even asked a solicitor before i filled the forms and he said its not a criminal conviction so therefor you need to disclose it.

after spending almost £1700 of fees what a disappointment.

What should i do? your help is much appreciated.

Thank you ll
You disclosed the court order or not? My understanding is that all court orders need to be disclosed, criminal or civil.
Hi alterhase58,

are you sure one need to disclose court proceeding whether convicted or no....?

also first time i read about civil court. that too.

we were dragged into Civil court proceeding by local authority for shake our child. Of course we never harmed our child and they had to drop the case based on Doctors reports, and this went on for 13 months. Child is 100% normal and doing very well in school.

so you reckon we should disclose this information as well? and where do you put this information on form.

there more i do research and read people stories, it makes me think blimey CAN OF WORMS LOL

thank you
It's "court orders" they are asking for as far as I know, i.e. when court finds you liable / guilty.
This is just my opinion as a member of this forum and does not constitute immigration advice.
Please do not send me private messages asking for advice.

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by alsanober » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:41 am

alterhase58 wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:37 am
alsanober wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:07 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:13 pm
SuperDupper wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:12 pm
hello everyone,
I am in bit of mess and a friend recommend me this forum is very helpful and i will surely find guidance.

I am non EU national (Indian) previously married to EU (Bulgarian national) divorced and got my PR on the basis of ROR. Me and my ex are not on good terms since last few years, She involved the police once and left the home also went to court and alleged me with so called domestic violence and obtained a court order against me I went to the court challenged it but Judge said no need to go in details when you going apart. Promise us you will not harm her and we will cancel everything and nothing will be recorded against you so I gave undertaking and walk away.
Now after 2 years of that i thought to settle things down and applied for nationality in october and guess what received refusal 3 days ago not only that they gave me 10 years ban as they dont like my character. They have consider/taken that court order as a conviction which is definitely not and i dont have any criminal record they saying you failed to disclose the conviction. I even asked a solicitor before i filled the forms and he said its not a criminal conviction so therefor you need to disclose it.

after spending almost £1700 of fees what a disappointment.

What should i do? your help is much appreciated.

Thank you ll
You disclosed the court order or not? My understanding is that all court orders need to be disclosed, criminal or civil.
Hi alterhase58,

are you sure one need to disclose court proceeding whether convicted or no....?

also first time i read about civil court. that too.

we were dragged into Civil court proceeding by local authority for shake our child. Of course we never harmed our child and they had to drop the case based on Doctors reports, and this went on for 13 months. Child is 100% normal and doing very well in school.

so you reckon we should disclose this information as well? and where do you put this information on form.

there more i do research and read people stories, it makes me think blimey CAN OF WORMS LOL

thank you
It's "court orders" they are asking for as far as I know, i.e. when court finds you liable / guilty.
yes that makes sense.

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by SuperDupper » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:08 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:37 am
alsanober wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:07 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:13 pm
SuperDupper wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:12 pm
hello everyone,
I am in bit of mess and a friend recommend me this forum is very helpful and i will surely find guidance.

I am non EU national (Indian) previously married to EU (Bulgarian national) divorced and got my PR on the basis of ROR. Me and my ex are not on good terms since last few years, She involved the police once and left the home also went to court and alleged me with so called domestic violence and obtained a court order against me I went to the court challenged it but Judge said no need to go in details when you going apart. Promise us you will not harm her and we will cancel everything and nothing will be recorded against you so I gave undertaking and walk away.
Now after 2 years of that i thought to settle things down and applied for nationality in october and guess what received refusal 3 days ago not only that they gave me 10 years ban as they dont like my character. They have consider/taken that court order as a conviction which is definitely not and i dont have any criminal record they saying you failed to disclose the conviction. I even asked a solicitor before i filled the forms and he said its not a criminal conviction so therefor you need to disclose it.

after spending almost £1700 of fees what a disappointment.

What should i do? your help is much appreciated.

Thank you ll
You disclosed the court order or not? My understanding is that all court orders need to be disclosed, criminal or civil.
Hi alterhase58,

are you sure one need to disclose court proceeding whether convicted or no....?

also first time i read about civil court. that too.

we were dragged into Civil court proceeding by local authority for shake our child. Of course we never harmed our child and they had to drop the case based on Doctors reports, and this went on for 13 months. Child is 100% normal and doing very well in school.

so you reckon we should disclose this information as well? and where do you put this information on form.

there more i do research and read people stories, it makes me think blimey CAN OF WORMS LOL

thank you
It's "court orders" they are asking for as far as I know, i.e. when court finds you liable / guilty.
OK

WHAT DO YOU THINK IN MY CASE? I HAVE NOT CONVICTED AND IT WAS JUST A RESTRICTION ORDER WHICH WAS DISCHARGED AND NOTHING WRONG HAS BEEN PROVEN AGAINST ME?? I HAVE NOW SENT A RECONSIDERATION APPLICATION EXPLAINING THE SAME AND A LETTER FROM MY SOLICITOR SAYING I HAVE NOT BEEN CONVICTED....

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by alsanober » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:40 pm

SuperDupper wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:08 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:37 am
alsanober wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:07 pm
alterhase58 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:13 pm


You disclosed the court order or not? My understanding is that all court orders need to be disclosed, criminal or civil.
Hi alterhase58,

are you sure one need to disclose court proceeding whether convicted or no....?

also first time i read about civil court. that too.

we were dragged into Civil court proceeding by local authority for shake our child. Of course we never harmed our child and they had to drop the case based on Doctors reports, and this went on for 13 months. Child is 100% normal and doing very well in school.

so you reckon we should disclose this information as well? and where do you put this information on form.

there more i do research and read people stories, it makes me think blimey CAN OF WORMS LOL

thank you
It's "court orders" they are asking for as far as I know, i.e. when court finds you liable / guilty.
OK

WHAT DO YOU THINK IN MY CASE? I HAVE NOT CONVICTED AND IT WAS JUST A RESTRICTION ORDER WHICH WAS DISCHARGED AND NOTHING WRONG HAS BEEN PROVEN AGAINST ME?? I HAVE NOW SENT A RECONSIDERATION APPLICATION EXPLAINING THE SAME AND A LETTER FROM MY SOLICITOR SAYING I HAVE NOT BEEN CONVICTED....
i suppose you will have to wait and see what happens. (Good luck by the way)

the fact that you didn't disclose it in your application they didn't like it. Have they mentioned anything in refusal letter that you can't apply for x number of years?

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by SuperDupper » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:57 pm

Yes they have
10 years

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by alsanober » Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:12 pm

SuperDupper wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:57 pm
Yes they have
10 years
:( all the best mate with reconsideration

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Re: Unsuccessful Naturalisation (AN) applications

Post by rpaw » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:35 pm

I have been following this forum for a while now,
I was hoping to have my first post in the Timeline thread, however, just today I received the disappointing refusal letter from the HO, and I would like to get a second thought on it please

My case is similar to:
Ana1986 wrote: Hi! Can someone help me? I m eu citizen, came to uk in 2008 for work. I was registered in wrs in May 2008. In Dec 2015 I received my pr card so I instantly applied for my citizenship as I have been excercing the treaty rights in uk some 2008. No break, no job changes etc. My an application was checked by nas and everything was OK. In Feb 2016 I received the letter from home office that my card was issued on 16.12.2015 I'm not eligible to apply for citizenship before 15.12.2016.
End of July I applied for reconsideration of my an application from Feb 2016. Isn't not too late for it? Any time limits when I can apply for the reconsideration? Otherwise my money gone :| please someone knows the rules?

I am EU citizen, came to uk in 2006 . I was registered in wrs in May 2006. Last year applied for PR and recived pr card Sept 2018. applied for naturalisation Nov 2018 with new system, providing 6 years P60s employment letter and WRS with No break, etc.
My refusal ground 12 months requi not meet.

My understanding was if u proof 6yrs in total
u able to apply straight away.
Thinking about reconsideration but not sure is doc provided (WRS from 2006, P60s 6yrs back and employment letter since 2011) be a good ground to chalange HO.

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by Alien2017 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:42 pm

What date is it stated on the letter that came with your PR card related to the date you have acquired Permanent Residence? If the letter says Sept 2018 then you must wait 12 months after. If the date states different then you need to wait 12 months from the date. Check the date on the letter not the issue date of the card.

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by rpaw » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:41 pm

Alien2017 wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:42 pm
What date is it stated on the letter that came with your PR card related to the date you have acquired Permanent Residence? If the letter says Sept 2018 then you must wait 12 months after. If the date states different then you need to wait 12 months from the date. Check the date on the letter not the issue date of the card.
Thanks for reply.
PR letter is lost, unfortunately
refusal letter pernament residency since 06.04.2018

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by AnotherUUID » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:41 pm

rpaw wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:41 pm
Alien2017 wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:42 pm
What date is it stated on the letter that came with your PR card related to the date you have acquired Permanent Residence? If the letter says Sept 2018 then you must wait 12 months after. If the date states different then you need to wait 12 months from the date. Check the date on the letter not the issue date of the card.
Thanks for reply.
PR letter is lost, unfortunately
refusal letter pernament residency since 06.04.2018
It would appear that your PR status has started on 06/04/2018 - this should match the date on your DCPR confirmation letter (which you have lost) and thus the rejection would be correct as you will need to wait until 06/04/2019 before you are eligible to apply for citizenship.

Do you remember what evidence you provided for exercising treaty rights in the UK when you applied for your DCPR in September 2018? Since you are an EU national exercising freedom of movement and treaty rights, the date from which your PR status starts tends to based on the evidence for exercising such rights that you submit to HO when applying for DCPR, how satisfied they are with the evidence, and how far back it goes (i.e. the qualifying period you claim to have acquired PR on).

For example, you may have provided evidence of exercising treaty rights dating back all the way to May 2006 but, depending on the evidence supplied, the caseworker might have only been satisfied by the evidence from 06/04/2013 onwards (i.e. 5 years prior to 06/04/2018), thereby confirming your PR status as of 06/04/2018 instead of a date further back. In a rare number of cases you may have lost a previously acquired status of PR - for example, if you have been outside of the UK for more than 2 years which essentially resets your qualifying period.

If you can remember, it would be helpful to post what evidence of exercising treaty rights you supplied for the period between May 2006 and 06/04/2013. If this evidence is sound then, in theory, you should have acquired PR status around May 2011, provided there is no reason to think otherwise.

If your DCPR application has been treated unfairly (e.g. eligible evidence of continuous exercise of treaty rights is disregarded) you may be able to appeal your case wrt your DCPR application. However, wrt to your BC application it is unlikely that there will much you can do at this point in time as your BC application was considered based on the evidence at hand supplied at this point in time.

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by SuperDupper » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:08 am

SuperDupper wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:08 am
smallpie wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:52 am
"But home office was aware since when i applied for PRC"

This you say home office are aware of your court issue in the past? So if they are aware before in your previous application, and you didn't declare it again in your citizenship application, I think they see that as holding informations, and goes on good character part.

May be this is the case, i wasnt aware so my fault, whats the way move forward? What are the chances in reconsideration as it is to spend £372 on the same application or shall i go through a solicitor with new application??

Hi again
I received a letter yesterday stating:

“”Your application to review the deceicion is currently being reviewed. If your application is reopened and approved, To enable us us to process your british passport please send us the british passport application form along with two passport size photos, you do not need countersignature on the form and no fee is payable.””

As i submited application via NDRS and joint passport application was sent together, The passport fee £85 was taken at time of my original application which was not refunded and i submited the countersignatures in my main application,

Has anybody come across this stage in recpnsideration?
Can i hope now there are positive chances of application will be successfull in reconsideration?
Thanks

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Re: Unsuccessful applications

Post by Vanessa8888 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:08 am

Hi, super dupper

Sorry to heard about the refusal. How long do you have to wait after you send the form for reconsideration for £372 ? I had send my reconsideration 2 weeks ago. I was wondering if there’s any knowledgeable letter? Or how can I know if my case being reviewed? Any advise?

Many thanks in advance

Sumaphorn

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