Bro-in-Law Sponsorship with a few twists

Hi everyone

I need some help.

I am a British citizen - have been all my life and I want call my brother in law over from Pakistan via a Visit Visa.

The questions that face me are:

- my brother in law has applied for a student visa twice unsuccessfully - once in 2005 & second time Jan 2010.

Apart from that he has no other surprises in store. Does that affect the application in anyway? Should we wait longer before applying? Whats the minimum wait?

Now my side:

I have been working for over 10yrs - pay all my taxes, have 2 houses but recently had some financial trouble and as a result have a CCJ (County Court Judgement) issued in my name which is still in place. My bank statements show my monthly income coming in but I do have alot of outgoings at this point in time so my bank statements are not great as they only show a couple of hundreds. Infact last 2 months have been floating in double figures! dam recession!

I am sure I will have no issues accomodating/supporting my brother in law whilst he stays here.

Anyway taking the above into account do we have a good chance or not?

Should I wait before my bank statements improve? Whats the minimum they look for?

Will my CCJ have any affect on the visa application?

Thanks people for helping - I have been looking everywhere but just cant get answers.

DTS

This is not the answer you will be looking forward to hearing , but I think you will struggle with this matter simply because your brother has been refused twice before ( even though different type of visa). The ECO become aware of people applying for different visas in a short time period which is a sign they desperately want to get into UK by whatever method, and if they succeed in doing so, it is unlikely that they will leave freely.

Secondly your CCJ does not help your sittuation. If a person is in some financial difficlty himself then I think sponsoring someone to come and stay with him for 6 months and the extra expense that may incur, will be the last thing on his mind.

Like I said in beginning its not the answer you may want to hear, but at least I am being honest with you. Its unlikely you will get this t answer from any solicitors who will no doubt promise you heaven and earth.

The choice is yours my friend

batleykhan wrote:This is not the answer you will be looking forward to hearing , but I think you will struggle with this matter simply because your brother has been refused twice before ( even though different type of visa). The ECO become aware of people applying for different visas in a short time period which is a sign they desperately want to get into UK by whatever method, and if they succeed in doing so, it is unlikely that they will leave freely.

Secondly your CCJ does not help your sittuation. If a person is in some financial difficlty himself then I think sponsoring someone to come and stay with him for 6 months and the extra expense that may incur, will be the last thing on his mind.

Like I said in beginning its not the answer you may want to hear, but at least I am being honest with you. Its unlikely you will get this t answer from any solicitors who will no doubt promise you heaven and earth.

The choice is yours my friend

Thanks for replying.

I suspected my bro-in-laws 2 failed student visa attempts would be an issue.

As for the CCJ - financially I am fine. My paperwork ie. bank statements dont reflect this. Supporting him wont b an issue at all.
My concern was my week bank statements and my CCJ - would they affect the visa application in anyway?

Give it more time and I can probably fix my bank statements but the CCJ will be around for a while - do they look at that? Would they even know I have a CCJ?

Thanks for helping again

DTS

It would help if you could get your financial side sorted out,however thats not going to come much use in view of your brothers previous refusals.

You can try and apply, the worst outcome is that you will loose out by a couple of hundred quids if he gets refused.He will have 3 refusals instead of two

batleykhan wrote:It would help if you could get your financial side sorted out,however thats not going to come much use in view of your brothers previous refusals.

You can try and apply, the worst outcome is that you will loose out by a couple of hundred quids if he gets refused.He will have 3 refusals instead of two

Thanks Batleykhan
I suspected his case was at a dead end.

What if I wanted to call someone over who has a total clean slate?
Would my weak financial state be a stumbling block? What if my bank statements were stronger but the CCJ remained in place - would that still be a problem? ie. could a call someone over when I have a CCJ against me? I think thats what I need to know.

Thanks again Batleykhan for being so helpful and patient

dts wrote:What if I wanted to call someone over who has a total clean slate?
Would my weak financial state be a stumbling block? What if my bank statements were stronger but the CCJ remained in place - would that still be a problem? ie. could a call someone over when I have a CCJ against me?

If your bank statements are 'ok' (ie. enough income to sponsor someone with a 'total clean slate'), then I think the CCJ wouldn't count against you! Besides, your bank statements do not reflect CCJ's, so it's highly unlikely that the ECO will know anything about it.
As for your brother in law, like batelykhan says, highly unlikely to be given a visa so soon after previous refusals. But you can try if you've got money to burn! The worst for him will be THREE refusals, instead of two. Worth it? I don't fink so!

Rozen wrote:

dts wrote:What if I wanted to call someone over who has a total clean slate?
Would my weak financial state be a stumbling block? What if my bank statements were stronger but the CCJ remained in place - would that still be a problem? ie. could a call someone over when I have a CCJ against me?

If your bank statements are 'ok' (ie. enough income to sponsor someone with a 'total clean slate'), then I think the CCJ wouldn't count against you! Besides, your bank statements do not reflect CCJ's, so it's highly unlikely that the ECO will know anything about it.
As for your brother in law, like batelykhan says, highly unlikely to be given a visa so soon after previous refusals. But you can try if you've got money to burn! The worst for him will be THREE refusals, instead of two. Worth it? I don't fink so!

Thanks guys for responding. Have been away for a few days & hence couldnt reply.

I have since spoken to my bri in law in depth and he inform me on his rejection on this occasion was due to him forgetting to attach a particular diploma he had stated in his application form.

The rejection letter says you got 0 points out of 30 for your Visa Letter due to the above mentioned missing diploma certificate.
It also very discretely states your previous application and immigration history MAY have been considered.
He made a genuine mistake of forgetting to attach the certificate but I am confused - was that just an excuse to reject him? All his other paperwork was intact inlcuding all fees/accomodation paid upfront for the time he would have been here.

The letter goes onto state your application does not attract a full right of appeal but can you apply for an administrative review.

What does that mean? Whats his chance of re-applying for another student visa with correct documents attached? Or does he have a chance with a visit visa like I mentioned in my earlier posts?

So confused having read his rejection letter.

Help!

To find out the answer why dont you apply and see what the outcome is.

batleykhan wrote:To find out the answer why dont you apply and see what the outcome is.

Well thats it - that what I want to know.

He has 2 rejections plus 1 appeal rejected (I wasnt aware of that).

Looking at the letter......what is the best course of action?

With his rejection history and the letter in mind (ie. missing certificate)does he stand a chance if applies for a student visa again? He wants to study & not visit.

I dont want him to waste his money if he is going to get rjected again.

I am up for sending him a sponsorship for a visit but does he have a chance with that?

So confused.

Thanks for taking time to read this thread.

Also thanks for the email.