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Can I APPLY FOR EEA Family Permit outside UK

Post by italo59 » Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:57 pm

I need desperately some advice.
I am an Italian Citizen and my wife is Brazilian. We both are living here in brazil at the momente. We plan to go to uk shortly to work and stay near to my mother who lives there for 20 years. I was told that I need an EEA family permit for my wife. Can I apply from brazil? What ground should I be applying for? How much savings do I need?

Thanks for any help in advance....
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Post by 86ti » Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:52 pm

You can apply for the EEA FP only from outside the UK. According to EU law you do not need a reason and fulfil only little formalities (passports and entry clearance=EEA FP for the non EEA national) for the first three months but I do not know if the embassy in Brazil handles such applications properly.

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Post by italo59 » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:01 pm

but still they say I need to be resident and working in the uk.... What am I missing?

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Post by 86ti » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:16 pm

italo59 wrote:but still they say I need to be resident and working in the uk.... What am I missing?
That's nonsense! The EEA FP is an entry clearance for the non EEA national spouse/partner. You do not need to be resident to get one. If you got that information from the embassy then they obviously haven't a clue.

See
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/ecg/eunati ... milypermit
and for the regulations see
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2006/20061003.htm

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Post by Rozen » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:43 pm

italo59 wrote:but still they say I need to be resident and working in the uk.... What am I missing?
Not necessarily! The EU national should at least have the intention to reside and exercise their EU rights in the UK. Usually within three months of arrival.

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Post by italo59 » Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:33 pm

Thank you guys for your response...

According to the 2006 regulations I need to be a
QUALIFIED PERSON
how can I prove that I will be a joseeker?
How much saving would I need to prove that I will be a self suficient person. ( i think those 2 would apply to me).

then they say on Regulation 12
(ii) will be travelling to the United Kingdom within six months of the date of the application and will be an EEA national residing in the United Kingdom in accordance with these Regulations on arrival in the United Kingdom; and
How can I prove the highlighted part???

Too many questions... I know!! Sorry to be so ignorant!

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Post by 86ti » Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:07 am

Rozen wrote:
italo59 wrote:but still they say I need to be resident and working in the uk.... What am I missing?
Not necessarily! The EU national should at least have the intention to reside and exercise their EU rights in the UK. Usually within three months of arrival.
I think not even that. The FP is also appropriate for mere visitors.

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Re: Can I APPLY FOR EEA Family Permit outside UK

Post by 86ti » Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:12 am

italo59 wrote:I am an Italian Citizen and my wife is Brazilian.
Aren't Brazilians non-visa nationals?

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Post by Rozen » Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:29 am

86ti wrote:
Rozen wrote:
italo59 wrote:but still they say I need to be resident and working in the uk.... What am I missing?
Not necessarily! The EU national should at least have the intention to reside and exercise their EU rights in the UK. Usually within three months of arrival.
I think not even that. The FP is also appropriate for mere visitors.
:oops: Oops! I stand corrected.

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Re: Can I APPLY FOR EEA Family Permit outside UK

Post by Mr Rusty » Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:31 am

86ti wrote:
italo59 wrote:I am an Italian Citizen and my wife is Brazilian.
Aren't Brazilians non-visa nationals?
Yes, so the OP's wife could present herself as a visitor and then apply for a Residence Card after arriving in the UK. I don't recommend that because if it's apparent to the Immigration Officer on arrival that she intends staying here, she doesn't qualify for entry as a visitor. They could still claim their EEA Family rights, but they'd get jerked around while it was sorted out, and the IO has no powers to grant admission under EEA regulations.

They should apply in Brazil for an EEA Family Permit, and the OP should support his wife's application with a covering letter stating that he will be a "qualified person" under the EEA Regulations, as a jobseeker (unless his employment is already arranged, in which case he's a "worker"). EEA nationals have the right to enter a member country for up to 3 months for any purpose, and are still a "qualified person" beyond that if they are actively seeking employment and have a realistic chance of getting a job. Therefore, unless the ECO can show that the OP has little or no chance of getting a job (and the onus of proof would be on the ECO), he has to accept that the OP is exercising his treaty rights, and that his wife is entitled to an EEA Family Permit.

The Family Permit is valid for 6 months, which is effectively the window of opportunity for the OP to establish himself here,as he would then apply for a Residence certificate for himself and a Residence Card for his wife, valid for 5 years.

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Post by italo59 » Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:52 pm

Thank u all... You have been very helpfull...

Does anyone have a sample letter for this purpose??

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Thank you!

Post by italo59 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:06 pm

I would like to thank you once more....
I just recieved my wifes entry clearence.
i couldn´t have made without your support.
Great Forum!! Great People! :D

Thanks

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