Channel Islands

jash345 · Post by **jash345** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:05 pm

I am a non-EU national having a Guernsey (Channel Islands) work permit and has just been offered a job with another employer in London. How do I switch employer, does my new employer has to lodge a fresh work permit application or just inform the Home Office. Will the advertising requirement and economic test still apply?

I left my employer in Guernsey 2 days ago.

jash345 · Post by **jash345** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:27 pm

Somebody pls help

sakura · Post by **sakura** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:06 pm

jash345 wrote:Somebody pls help

People don't reply after just 25 minutes...

I don't know much about Guernsey and the UK, sorry. But your new employer most certainly needs to lodge a new work permit application.

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:29 pm

Bit daft leaving it till after you've left ur current WP job..

jash345 · Post by **jash345** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:05 pm

Does an umbrella company has to fulfil the advertisement requirement?

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:31 pm

jash345 wrote:Does an umbrella company has to fulfil the advertisement requirement?

No.

WP's are job specific, no way to transfer even if the two job were in the next office. OK well there is, but the point is you need another Work Permit in thsi situation.

The tests apply assuming it's not a tier one occupation.

Post by **PaperPusher** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:14 pm

Hi jash345

I am a non-EU national having a Guernsey (Channel Islands) work permit and has just been offered a job with another employer in London. How do I switch employer, does my new employer has to lodge a fresh work permit application or just inform the Home Office.

The Channel Islands run a separate system so your new employer would have to apply from scratch. When I last checked one of the Channel Islands would accept a UK Work Permit for six months, but I've never heard of any agreements theother way. I think they would have to advertise unless the application meets the Tier 1 criteria.

You didn't say what your job is, you could have a job that will get you a permit in the Channel Islands, but not meet the UK Work Permit criteria.

magsi23 · Post by **magsi23** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:46 pm

Well most certainly your new company would need to apply for a new work permit.

If you are going to work in similar job then the new employer might not need to advertise the Job. However if the job description changes then they have to advertise the job. I agree with above comment bit too late to apply for WP, Ideally you transfer the WP and then leave the company.

Post by **PaperPusher** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:17 pm

If you are going to work in similar job then the new employer might not need to advertise the Job. However if the job description changes then they have to advertise the job.

The OP does not have a UK Work Permit, the employer is going to have to show advertising if the post does not meet the Tier 1 Criteria.

The Channel Islands have separate but similar immigration rules as far as I am aware. I am not sure that strictly speaking they are in the UK, Guernsey has it's own parliament and the laws in the UK do not necessarliy apply to Guernsey. There is a big clue to this, that their website is not .gov.uk, the Guernsey government website is http://www.gov.gg/

magsi23 · Post by **magsi23** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:04 pm

PaperPusher wrote:
If you are going to work in similar job then the new employer might not need to advertise the Job. However if the job description changes then they have to advertise the job.
The OP does not have a UK Work Permit, the employer is going to have to show advertising if the post does not meet the Tier 1 Criteria.

The Channel Islands have separate but similar immigration rules as far as I am aware. I am not sure that strictly speaking they are in the UK, Guernsey has it's own parliament and the laws in the UK do not necessarliy apply to Guernsey. There is a big clue to this, that their website is not .gov.uk, the Guernsey government website is http://www.gov.gg/

Channel island might have different criteria i dont disagree, and where did Tier 1 come from?

Post by **PaperPusher** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:39 pm

Channel island might have different criteria i dont disagree, and where did Tier 1 come from?

I meant Tier 1 of the business and commercial work permit criteria. Ads are needed for Tier 2, but not Tier 1.

magsi23 · Post by **magsi23** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:28 am

PaperPusher wrote:
Channel island might have different criteria i dont disagree, and where did Tier 1 come from?
I meant Tier 1 of the business and commercial work permit criteria. Ads are needed for Tier 2, but not Tier 1.

Oh so you have started Tier system already have you? Dont confuse your self or others please its not appropriate to use these terms as they are not implemented yet.

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:49 am

magsi23 wrote:
PaperPusher wrote:
Channel island might have different criteria i dont disagree, and where did Tier 1 come from?
I meant Tier 1 of the business and commercial work permit criteria. Ads are needed for Tier 2, but not Tier 1.

Oh so you have started Tier system already have you? Dont confuse your self or others please its not appropriate to use these terms as they are not implemented yet.

Yes they are!

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:50 am

This might help;

From http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/6353/1 ... nfomay.pdf

What if the person is currently in the
Channel Islands or the Isle of Man?

50. Where a person has been given leave to enter
or remain by the authorities of the Channel Islands
or the Isle of Man and then proceeds directly to the
United Kingdom, that leave and any conditions
attached to it will be treated as if it had been
imposed in the United Kingdom. Provided this
leave is still current, the person will not require
entry clearance to enter the UK.
51. If you, the employer, seek to employ the
person in the UK as a work permit holder, you will
need to submit a work permit application in the
normal way. If a work permit approval is granted,
the person can travel to the UK (provided they are
still in possession of leave granted by one of the
island authorities) and, once here, can submit an
application for leave to remain associated with the
work permit.
52. Such an application for leave should, in all
cases, be submitted:
â€¢ before the personâ€™s extant leave expires;
â€¢ within six months of the issuing of the work
permit approval letter;
â€¢ before the person takes up work in the UK.
53. Once leave has been granted, the person can
then take up the employment authorised on the
work permit letter.
54. Applications of this sort are considered to be
â€˜in-countryâ€™ cases and leave will only be granted in
circumstances where the Immigration Rules allow
people to switch from the category within which
their existing leave was granted, to the category
into which they are seeking to move. This means
that, only those people whose leave to enter or
remain, granted by the authorities of the Channel
Islands or the Isle of Man, was within a category
from which they are permitted to switch into work
permit employment, are likely to have their leave to
remain applications approved.
55. Those people who are in the Channel Islands
or the Isle of Man within a category from which
switching into work permit employment is not
permitted (for example, as a visitor) or those who
are resident on one of the Islands but whose
extant leave will expire before they can submit a
fresh leave application, should be advised to leave
the Common Travel Area1 and seek entry
clearance under the appropriate category.

magsi23 · Post by **magsi23** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:07 pm

Wanderer wrote:This might help;

And where does it talk about Tier system in the links that you provided?

jash345 · Post by **jash345** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:58 pm

Please no more arguing. I have now left the channel islands and I got my work permit in the UK. Basically, the new employer has to file a new work permit application and follow the usual conditions. There is no special status granted to the Channel islands.

magsi23 · Post by **magsi23** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:57 pm

jash345 wrote:Please no more arguing. I have now left the channel islands and I got my work permit in the UK. Basically, the new employer has to file a new work permit application and follow the usual conditions. There is no special status granted to the Channel islands.

well done buddy

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:38 pm

magsi23 wrote:
Wanderer wrote:This might help;

And where does it talk about Tier system in the links that you provided?

I meant help the OP not you.

magsi23 · Post by **magsi23** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:52 pm

Wanderer wrote:
magsi23 wrote:
PaperPusher wrote:
Channel island might have different criteria i dont disagree, and where did Tier 1 come from?
I meant Tier 1 of the business and commercial work permit criteria. Ads are needed for Tier 2, but not Tier 1.

Oh so you have started Tier system already have you? Dont confuse your self or others please its not appropriate to use these terms as they are not implemented yet.
Yes they are!

?

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:35 am

magsi23 wrote:
Wanderer wrote:
magsi23 wrote:
PaperPusher wrote:
I meant Tier 1 of the business and commercial work permit criteria. Ads are needed for Tier 2, but not Tier 1.

Oh so you have started Tier system already have you? Dont confuse your self or others please its not appropriate to use these terms as they are not implemented yet.
Yes they are!
?

From t'internet....

The main types of employer sponsored UK work permit are:

Tier 1 UK Work Permit - issued by Work Permits UK for professions that are on the Skills Shortage Occupation List. Tier 1 work permits in the UK require less evidence to be produced to prove that a person could not easily be found, as Work Permits UK have already recognised that there are a shortage of people in the UK with those skills.

Tier 2 UK Work Permit - issued by Work Permits UK for those professions that do not fall into the Tier 2 Work Permit category.

Training and Work Experience Scheme (TWES) - issued by Work Permits (UK) for the purposes of training an individual. This is a shorter term working permit and further information can be found on our TWES Work Permit Page.

Intra-Company Transfer: issued by Work Permits (UK), this Working Permit is designed to allow overseas employers to bring key members of staff to their UK office.

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