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Job seeker allowance

Post by Icloud84 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:50 pm

I used to work full time in last few years but currently due to some circumstances I am working only 14/15 hours per week on the same employer and looking for new job as well. So I guess I am eligible for job seeker allowance at the moment.


Anyhow, will it effect my naturalisation application in the future or anything ?it would be helpful if anybody Please kindly let me know .

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by JB007 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:24 am

Icloud84 wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:50 pm
I used to work full time in last few years but currently due to some circumstances I am working only 14/15 hours per week on the same employer and looking for new job as well. So I guess I am eligible for job seeker allowance at the moment.


Anyhow, will it effect my naturalisation application in the future or anything ?it would be helpful if anybody Please kindly let me know .

Thanks in advance.


It reads like you are earning too much for jobseeker's allowance.

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by JB007 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:39 am

UK law says that if you are over age 25, then you only need £73.10 a week to live on. Up to age 24 is £57.90. That might rise by a pound or two from the 6th April 2019.

Even on mimimum wage, you are earning at least £113 a week.

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by Icloud84 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:23 am

Thanks for your reply .

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by JB007 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:18 am

Icloud84 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:23 am
Thanks for your reply .
If you are renting, you might be able to claim some benefit money to help with your rent - but that will depend on whether you can have Public Funds/whether you are classed as worker EEA citizen, and it won't be much money. If you can claim from the UK, it would be a claim for Universal Credit and you can use a Universal Credit benefit calculator to see if you would be given anything.

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by JB007 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:28 am

You could contact your local council to see if your low income would give you a reduction on your Council Tax but be aware that this a Public Fund. Each council has their own rules on this and they might have a calculator on their website.

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by Icloud84 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:50 pm

JB007 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:28 am
You could contact your local council to see if your low income would give you a reduction on your Council Tax but be aware that this a Public Fund. Each council has their own rules on this and they might have a calculator on their website.
Ok .. thanks.
My situation is I am a full time wheelchair user and living with relatives at the moment . Due to circumstances I have to shift on my own soon . FYI, I have full ILR and not in eu category or anything like that! And I am working 14/15 hours per week as I mentioned. So in this scenario I am confused that what help I can ask for and which one will be better to live by own . Your idea and suggestions will be highly appropriated.

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by JB007 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:55 pm

Icloud84 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:50 pm


Ok .. thanks.
My situation is I am a full time wheelchair user and living with relatives at the moment . Due to circumstances I have to shift on my own soon . FYI, I have full ILR and not in eu category or anything like that!
As you have ILR, you might be able to claim PIP, in addition to Universal Credit.
https://www.gov.uk/pip

As you have ILR, just put in a claim for Universal Credit and see what they say you can have now. For the housing element, you will need to be renting.

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by Icloud84 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:03 pm

Thanks a lot for your early reply. So you mean I have to rent a onek bed /studio flat 1st then I can seek for housing allowance? Some people say landowner won’t agree to rent if they know the scenario!!

Anyways ... universal credit and tax credit are the same thing ?

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by JB007 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:32 pm

Icloud84 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:03 pm

Anyways ... universal credit and tax credit are the same thing ?
Are you saying you are on Working Tax Credit benefits? If so, your hours appear to be too low for that benefit- have you told WTC you have these reduced hours, to avoid an overpayment?

If you are on WTC, then go to the CAB for a benefit calculation for you before you claim Universal Credit, because once on UC you cannot go back to claiming the old (legacy) benefits. Although you might lose the WTC if you are not still working the required hours for that benefit.

Tax Credits are two of the six low income benefits for those of working age, being replaced by Universal Credit, but UC has different rules to Tax Credits.

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by Icloud84 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:55 pm

No, I am not in WTC and never applied! I am just confused about which option would be better!

If i rent a one bed /studio flat 1st then I can seek for housing allowance? Some people say landowner won’t agree to rent if they know the scenario!!

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by JB007 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:02 pm

Icloud84 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:55 pm
No, I am not in WTC and never applied! I am just confused about which option would be better!
You don't get the choice because the Tax Credit benefit has ended. If you aren't already claiming one of these income based legacy benefits, then you caim UC. All will be moved onto UC from this year and some will move themselves.
https://www.gov.uk/universal-credit
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If i rent a one bed /studio flat 1st then I can seek for housing allowance? Some people say landowner won’t agree to rent if they know the scenario!!
Being in a wheelchair does not mean that you can't work full time and therefore get the choice of rental properties as you will be paying your own rent, or buy a house.

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by Icloud84 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:06 pm

Yeah! Thanks for the details ... as in after greeting the rent if I need help for the rent then may I get help ?

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by Icloud84 » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:45 am

JB007 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:02 pm
Icloud84 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:55 pm
No, I am not in WTC and never applied! I am just confused about which option would be better!
You don't get the choice because the Tax Credit benefit has ended. If you aren't already claiming one of these income based legacy benefits, then you caim UC. All will be moved onto UC from this year and some will move themselves.
https://www.gov.uk/universal-credit
Icloud84 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:55 pm
If i rent a one bed /studio flat 1st then I can seek for housing allowance? Some people say landowner won’t agree to rent if they know the scenario!!
Being in a wheelchair does not mean that you can't work full time and therefore get the choice of rental properties as you will be paying your own rent, or buy a house.
Is it possible to rent a house and then later seek housing allowance so that it could pay a part of the rent!!?

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by JB007 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:23 pm

Icloud84 wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:45 am


Is it possible to rent a house and then later seek housing allowance so that it could pay a part of the rent!!?
JB007 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:18 am
you can use a Universal Credit benefit calculator to see if you would be given anything.

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by Icloud84 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:51 am

Thanks ! To be honest I’m really confused with all these options!

Housing benifit and universal credit are the same thing ?

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by JB007 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:36 am

Icloud84 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:51 am
Thanks ! To be honest I’m really confused with all these options!

Housing benifit and universal credit are the same thing ?
The UK has made massive changes to the welfare system.

Universal Credit is the one low income benefit, that replaces the six low income benefits for those of working age. In some circumstances, a person of state pension age could be on Universal Credit but these will not have the work requirement.

"Universal Credit will replace the following benefits:

Child Tax Credit
Housing Benefit
Income Support
income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA)
income-related Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)
Working Tax Credit"


These six old benefits Universal Credit replaces, are now called the legacy benefits. Universal Credit has different rules and requirments than the legacy benefits had. Exisiting claimants cannot claim Universal Credit and the legacy benefits at the same time.

New claimants wanting low income benefits, can only claim Universal Credit. If these try to claim one of the now closed benefits, they will be directed to apply for Universal Credit.


Only some exisiting claimants might get an option to stay on the legacy benefits for a while longer, but all will be moved to Universal Credit, either by-
- them choosing to claim Universal Credit instead
-doing something that triggers a move to Universal Credit (many end up doing this)
-are moved onto Universal Credit, which will be starting this year.



"Universal Credit is being introduced in stages across the UK. You do not need to do anything until you hear from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) about moving to Universal Credit, unless you have a change in circumstances."


https://www.gov.uk/universal-credit

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by JB007 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:56 am

Icloud84 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:51 am
To be honest I’m really confused with all these options!
As you can see, you don't get the option of what to choose.

Triggers that move exisiting claimaint to Universal Credit are the obvious things, mainly anything where under the old system they would got more benefit money with what they are doing. e.g parents claiming Working Tax Credit as they don't work many hours between them and could have got more benefit money if they reduced their work hours under the old system, now trigger their move to Universal Credit, where both parents will have to work and they lose any transitional protection (they will get less benefit money).

Universal Credit ensures that parents do not get more money from benefits than they would from working full time, which is what happened under Tax Credit legacy benefit. Once they are moved onto Universal Credit, they cannot go back to the old legacy benefits.

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by Icloud84 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:13 pm

Thank you for the details 👍
In universal credit calculator when I put my details like I’m working less than 16 hours and currently living with relatives and never received any kind of benifit as well as I have disability then surprisingly result comes up as a “0” !!!!
I wonder why is that ?

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by JB007 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:29 pm

Icloud84 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:13 pm
Thank you for the details 👍
In universal credit calculator when I put my details like I’m working less than 16 hours and currently living with relatives and never received any kind of benifit as well as I have disability then surprisingly result comes up as a “0” !!!!
I wonder why is that ?
Because as I explained in first and second post in your thread, there is nothing for you with Universal Credit.

If you want to see how much you could get if you rent a room, then you can put those figures into the calculator and see what it comes up with. Then go to the CAB and ask them to check those figures before you sign a tenancy agreement.

Under this new beneift system, there are work requirements. Ask the CAB to explain those to you too because you may not be exempt from them because people in wheelchairs work full time too. Disabled people work. Even the PIP benefit , is an in work benefit.

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by Icloud84 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:09 pm

Thanks a lot again ... ya I’m also looking for full time jobs . And I heard you can apply for PIP whether you working or not !

Can you please let me know where can I find out my local CAB location to visit ?

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by CR001 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:24 pm

Icloud84 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:09 pm
Can you please let me know where can I find out my local CAB location to visit ?
Google??

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/
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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by JB007 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:41 am

Icloud84 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:09 pm
Thanks a lot again ... ya I’m also looking for full time jobs . And I heard you can apply for PIP whether you working or not !
PIP is an in-work benefit for people of working age. If PIP is awarded after your medical, it is extra money to help towards what your disabitly costs. You will be required to have these medicals often to continue that benefit.

However under the welfare reforms
-there will be no more "two or three bites of the same cherry": no more extra money for rent too because the person is disabled/ extra money for jobseekers because the person is disable; in addition to their PIP benefit, as they can work.

-Under the old system they got extra benefit money for Spam if they claimed they needed these but did not have to spend that money on Spam, while others who really did need Spam did not have enough money for them all. Under the Welfare Reforms, there will be no extra benefit money given for Spam anymore and that money being saved is being used to ensure there is no limit to the number of Spam a person can have if they are needed.

These are some of the reasons why thos on the old benefit system, are complaining they will get less benefit money under the welfare reforms.

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by joeyf » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:38 am

I'm in reciept of PIPS as carers standard allowance and enhanced mobility rate and also get Universal Credit for as long as my fit notes are valid.

ESA is paid to whom anyone has paid enough national insurance contributions, if your in reciept and are concerned about any benefits like UC or ESA being reduced because of hours your working your work coach is the person to speak at the local job centre or leaving a message online.

PIPS is a benefit you recieve that doesn't affect your allowances and being in reciept places you out of the benefit cap, would be rude to take the mickey though!

My advice is if you think your entitled to something, claim it, if you don't someone else will, and whilst I'm relying on it a bit I would think 5 years in the Army gives me a little entitlement to a bit of something?

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Re: Job seeker allowance

Post by joeyf » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:39 am

Icloud84 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:09 pm
Thanks a lot again ... ya I’m also looking for full time jobs . And I heard you can apply for PIP whether you working or not !

Can you please let me know where can I find out my local CAB location to visit ?

It depends, took me a year and a tribunal to get mine and my backdated pay, what exactly makes you think you quality for PIPS anyway?

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