Complaint about Obie political post

[aussiegoin4it]

I wish to have Obie's political post removed: http://www.immigrationboards.com/austra ... 88057.html

I understand this moderator has been helpful in other forums in assisting people with their legal immigration queries.

I found Obie's political post in the Australian forum offensive, as an Australian, and against the spirit of this forum as one for people wishing to assist others in matters of legal immigration.

Obie does not live in Australia and seems to have no personal ties to Australia other than a dearly beloved hatred of the country and its people that should not be displayed here. Could this moderator please be restricted to making comments in forums more aligned with the experience and expertise that Obie has.

[cool mind]

I think political comments about anybody/country should not be allowed in forum and any such member should be banned or degraded. If moderator then convert him/her into guru/ordinary member.
I am not Australian but have few friends there who enjoying and working well there. Living standard and wages are better there. Australia is more easily reachable by illegals than even UK and maybe Australian government now too tired and design new remedy.

[Casa]

It won't be removed. You may not agree with it, but if we ban posts which report any issues relating to government, all of the posts relating to the recent General Election and those objecting the UK political decisions would also have to be removed. Obie was reporting on news relating to world immigration.

[UKBA HUNTER]

That remind me one of my university time friend Obinna Richard JNR having Nick name Obie from west Africa. He had good command in English language and much knowledge in various fields of life but bring politics very quickly into conservation
Maybe I found my old lost friend via forum.

[Casa]

As this is in the Comments/discussion board, could I just add that it's fortunate the Australian natives didn't send the boats back out to sea when the British 'illegal immigrants' landed in 1788 to colonise New South Wales with the convicts Britain didn't want....

[Amber]

Do also consider that

Rights groups and the UN have voiced serious concerns about the policies and accuse Australia of shirking international obligations.

[UKBA HUNTER]

I see no problem in using such strategy for a while to discourage illegal entry into Australia. Illegal entry is a crime and for securing your own borders you should use some strategies by time to time. Except Europe there are a lot countries where they straight open fire on illegal border crossers especially in Africa. Australia is more vulnerable from sea route and they already requested and negotiated too much with neighborhood but still suffering and now maybe using that techniques. I believe the more blame should be fallen on such countries to where these illegal migrants belong.

[geriatrix]

OP,

Political post??

It is just a link to a media article ... preceded by (what I believe is Obie's) personal opinion on how a government is handling the issue!

So, should we not allow you to post if you have a personal opinion about changes to UK immigration policies or laws? Come on ... we are all grown-ups here (I hope)!

That said, I do think the title of that topic could have been better worded ...

[Casa]

Exactly sushdmehta. My personal opinion is that it's a tragic situation when human life, including the lives of innocent children means so little.

[UKBA HUNTER]

When knowing to death risk these illegal migrants start suicidal journey with their own hands and by violating their own national law & order & security then why the other country welcome them. Who knows among them are government wanted criminals or having rare health disease for others. Destination country is not responsible as its only their own or national government duty. More than these so called people many people from war zone countries deserve asylum especially the war zone countries where babies dying without seeing the world. I have seen a lot illegals from safer countries but use the fake ID of those from war zone countries to claim asylum.

[Casa]

My point is that the children don't have any part in the decision to make the journey.

[UKBA HUNTER]

Always parents/guardians/anyone who is responsible should look after their minor children by using the correct route? Minor children can't themselves start such journey, isn't it? Even a lot so called people use the minor children to fix their immigration issues.
Maybe because:

If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed".

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[Casa]

Always parents/guardians/anyone who is responsible should look after their minor children by using the correct route? Minor children can't themselves start such journey, isn't it? Even a lot so called people use the minor children to fix their immigration issues.
Maybe because:

If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed".

.

Absolutely right that minor children can't make the decision to start the journey, which is the point I made about their suffering. I'm not sure I fully understand the relevance in your quote to children being sent back out to sea...but with respect, I leave you to your ethics about the sanctity of a child's life (or not) and I'll remain with mine.

[UKBA HUNTER]

But as far as obie's post then I think it is acceptable because it relates to Australian immigration & asylum system. It's same like in EU section people share news about UK such as UK leaving EU zone, ukba unfair treatment to non-eu national, tougher public benefits, domestic violence etc.
Obie has already helped many members especially retention of right under EU route.
Good to see sushdmehta back too.

[Casa]

I agree.

[Obie]

I was totally unaware of this post .

I told the OP I had no problem with Aussies.

I have problem with the Australian Government rewarding people smuggler and refouling refugee and sending them to an isolated island, which itself is a violation of Australia's nternational obligations under the refugee convention.

Not sure why this post caused so much offense that the OP had to report me.

I clearly did not intend to cause offense to anyone

One can only imagine whether we would have Australia today , if the aborigines had stopped captain Cook from entry into their territory and sent him to East Timor or PNG .

[Casa]

As this is in the Comments/discussion board, could I just add that it's fortunate the Australian natives didn't send the boats back out to sea when the British 'illegal immigrants' landed in 1788 to colonise New South Wales with the convicts Britain didn't want....

Exactly Obie...that was my point too.

[Obie]

As this is in the Comments/discussion board, could I just add that it's fortunate the Australian natives didn't send the boats back out to sea when the British 'illegal immigrants' landed in 1788 to colonise New South Wales with the convicts Britain didn't want....

Exactly Obie...that was my point too.

Precisely. I am not sure why aussiegoinforit wants to censor me for.

One of my purpose here is to fight for the rights of immigrant all over the world, one way i do this, is to expose those governments that seeks to violate their rights, be it in Europe , Australia, America, Asia or far east.

One could reasonably describes those colonisers as proper dregs of British society, they are nothing close to those people running from oppressive regime to claim asylum in Australia. A very clear distinctions can be made between them.

I must emphasis that this is not intended as an insult to Aussie, as they have built Australia into a beautiful place, but facts need to be told, we have to call a spade a spade.

I agree with you CASA