Complication of two marriages

ILR1980 · Post by **ILR1980** » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:28 am

If a person was already married in Pakistan and moved to UK on visitor visa and became British after marrying with British citizens( second wife) . Can he bring his first wife in UK when second marriage with British national partner has been dissolved now with formal divorce?

what are the option? spouse visa or fiance visa?

I know that if you have wife in UK and go for second marriage in Pakistan then that 2nd marriage will not be recognized as per UK laws but what if you have first marriage in Pakistan and 2nd marriage in UK with British national and get settled in UK because of this second marraige? would this invalidate first marriage?

Post by **Ticktack** » Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:59 am

ILR1980 wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:28 am
If a person was already married in Pakistan and moved to UK on visitor visa and became British after marrying with British citizens( second wife) . Can he bring his first wife in UK when second marriage with British national partner has been dissolved now with formal divorce?

what are the option? spouse visa or fiance visa?

I know that if you have wife in UK and go for second marriage in Pakistan then that 2nd marriage will not be recognized as per UK laws but what if you have first marriage in Pakistan and 2nd marriage in UK with British national and get settled in UK because of this second marraige? would this invalidate first marriage?

You could potentially invalidate your British Citizenship! You've obtained British citizenship by deceit.

Other might advise differently. But I believe that you weren't free to marry when you married. It's a house of cards!
Remove one and you know what happens.

Post by **Casa** » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:18 pm

Ticktack wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:59 am

ILR1980 wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:28 am
If a person was already married in Pakistan and moved to UK on visitor visa and became British after marrying with British citizens( second wife) . Can he bring his first wife in UK when second marriage with British national partner has been dissolved now with formal divorce?

what are the option? spouse visa or fiance visa?

I know that if you have wife in UK and go for second marriage in Pakistan then that 2nd marriage will not be recognized as per UK laws but what if you have first marriage in Pakistan and 2nd marriage in UK with British national and get settled in UK because of this second marraige? would this invalidate first marriage?
You could potentially invalidate your British Citizenship! You've obtained British citizenship by deceit.

Other might advise differently. But I believe that you weren't free to marry when you married. It's a house of cards!
Remove one and you know what happens.

I agree with the advice above.

Post by **secret.simon** » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:33 pm

ILR1980 wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:28 am
If a person was already married in Pakistan and moved to UK on visitor visa and became British after marrying with British citizens( second wife)

Was the second marriage a legal marriage recognised by the state (i.e. done by a registrar) or was it a nikaah by a cleric (which is not recognised unless the cleric is also a registrar)?

If the former (legal marriage), it was effectively a marriage that was void (i.e. legally it didn't happen at all) because being already legally married is a complete bar to getting married again in the UK (unless the spouse is either divorced or deceased). Therefore the entire foundation of the spouse visa and eventual ILR disappears.

As @Ticktack mentions above, there may be grounds for deprivation of British citizenship on grounds of concealment of material fact.

Are there any children from the marriage in Pakistan?

Post by **Casa** » Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:21 pm

Your present situation is now confusing, as in the topic in the link below, your brought your wife and children to the UK from Pakistan on a family visa.

https://www.immigrationboards.com/viewt ... 1#p2080791

Are you posting on behalf of someone else ?

ILR1980 · Post by **ILR1980** » Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:21 pm

Thanks guys. Appreciate your input

secret.simon wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:33 pm

ILR1980 wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:28 am
If a person was already married in Pakistan and moved to UK on visitor visa and became British after marrying with British citizens( second wife)
Was the second marriage a legal marriage recognised by the state (i.e. done by a registrar) or was it a nikaah by a cleric (which is not recognised unless the cleric is also a registrar)?

If the former (legal marriage), it was effectively a marriage that was void (i.e. legally it didn't happen at all) because being already legally married is a complete bar to getting married again in the UK (unless the spouse is either divorced or deceased). Therefore the entire foundation of the spouse visa and eventual ILR disappears.

As @Ticktack mentions above, there may be grounds for deprivation of British citizenship on grounds of concealment of material fact.

Are there any children from the marriage in Pakistan?

First marriage was in Pakistan and it was nikkah marriage and legal marraige as per Pakistani laws and he has got grown up kids( some of them are setlled in the Uk and has even sponsored their mother on vistor visa

Second marraige took place in UK say after 10/15 years of first marraige and he got citizenship based on marraige visa and no children from this marriage and wife has been passed away after divorce . It was civil marraige

ILR1980 · Post by **ILR1980** » Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:22 pm

Casa wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:21 pm
Your present situation is now confusing, as in the topic in the link below, your brought your wife and children to the UK from Pakistan on a family visa.

https://www.immigrationboards.com/viewt ... 1#p2080791

Are you posting on behalf of someone else ?

Its not my situation but asking this on behalf of my uncle. I will be applying for him that's why asked for guidance before applying as its quite complicated

ILR1980 · Post by **ILR1980** » Wed Feb 19, 2025 9:35 pm

Just got some clarfication from him further that he actually divorced his wife before doing second marriage in UK so he was not married at the time of second marriage in Uk. His ex wife married another man and their relationship ended after few years and he remarried again to same woman within Pakistan so could not bring her In Uk because already had wife here but now i assume he can bring her as finace to register marraige to make it legal in UK. Well i will advise her to contact a solicitor because dont seem easy applications

Thanks for insights

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