Application for Permanent Residence Card refused.Help/advice

If an appeal is made, wouldn't it be easier to just contrast the two reasons why they refused the application? Concentrate just on that? Why bring up the insurance thing? Obviously if I make a new application is different.

By the way, I found out that my dad had an insurance for the whole family during the year I was at uni, and even after. Does it count? Or it has to be an insurance in the UK, and just for myself?

Thanks

walkthisway wrote:If an appeal is made, wouldn't it be easier to just contrast the two reasons why they refused the application? Concentrate just on that? Why bring up the insurance thing? Obviously if I make a new application is different.

By the way, I found out that my dad had an insurance for the whole family during the year I was at uni, and even after. Does it count? Or it has to be an insurance in the UK, and just for myself?

Thanks

If no valid insurance then your student period risks not counting. If that is the case your PR clock started later on, it is hopefully still running but it's too early to apply for confirmation of PR.

You do not know if the HO accepted you as a valid student or is it that, when they found another reason to reject the application (excessive jobseeker), they didn't bother looking into whether you actually had CSI.

Dad's are great aren't they.
If you father has a health policy that really covers you when you were a student then that confirms you can use that student time.
It doesn't have to be a UK policy just a valid policy that covers people in UK.

So yes it could/should count.

You may have found a way to show your PR clock really did start earlier.
If it starts earlier it may have completed 5 years already.
So then you just need to work on sorting out the jobseeking period that you failed on first time round.

The game is afoot!

Although there is the question if this insurance was valid only in my own country or it included the other european countries too. If it covered me only if I was in my own country or even if I was outside.
It's been a few years ago and it's hard to find those details and receipts of payments.

What I really need to know is how I can prove that I genuinely had prospects of work for the whole period I was under JSA. What documents do I need to prove such a thing?
I thought that the fact that I was under JSA (and so registered to the Jobcentre, and that they kept me going) was a proof in itself. If I didn't have any prospect of work, my benefits would have been stopped.

walkthisway wrote:What I really need to know is how I can prove that I genuinely had prospects of work for the whole period I was under JSA. What documents do I need to prove such a thing?
I thought that the fact that I was under JSA (and so registered to the Jobcentre, and that they kept me going) was a proof in itself. If I didn't have any prospect of work, my benefits would have been stopped.

See HO guidance for qualified persons, including jobseekers:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _clean.pdf
- ref page 9+

I can confirm that I was insured during the year I was at university. This insurance is valid in the whole world and it covers healthcare expenses. Hopefully it should be accepted.

Now I'm just concerned about putting together all the documents showing my prospects of work during 'the job seeker period'. I'm scared and negative about this new application attempt. I kind of feel these people at the Home Office don't know their stuff very well and we almost need to explain things in order for them to understand.

Also, I don't want to ship my Identity Card again. They already checked it the first time (can I mention that I already applied before?). They must have a copy there. I hope a photocopy this time is enough.

Hi there. Not sure if you had the chance to read my previous post but I've been considering to write a clarification page for all the documents I will attach to the application. This is because the case is quite complicated and I want them to remember the law and the rules, considering that so far these people have shown incompetence. I don't want them to reject it for the wrong reasons. How would you present it?

1st year 2010-2011 : student with insurance
2nd year 2012 : JSA
3rd year 2013 : JSA
2014 JSA + months of temporary jobs
2015 (change of the rules?) JSA until I found a full time job in the second half of the year
2016 : full time job

I will also provide letters of rejections from employers and other documents that confirm my registration to the jobcentre.

PS
Do I need to resend my document or I can mention that they already have a copy of it from the previous application? You can imagine that it's a pain to be without your document for indefinite time.

That I have been a qualified person with continuity for more than five years.
I will also include the payslips from the temporary jobs + some of my current permanent one.

Can anybody help?

After filing the application you can contact HO to request original document/s be returned to you.
Many members do this.

As I said I wanted to prepare an introduction to clarify my whole history in these 5 years and show that I've always been a qualified person to avoid an easy rejection for stupid reasons. I was asking how would you present it. According to the new rules, the jobseeker period for europeans, lasts for 6 months. Is it retroactive? Have I lost the years when the rule did not exist?