Application for PR or PR card: form EEA (PR) - UpToDate

Unowhatimeanharrry wrote:Thanks a lot for reply noajthan
I am non-EEA NATIONAL my wife is EEA national the rest we did send everything all evidence what was required but I was just confused about mine work history cos solicitor said it's not need it it's your wife's importent

All good then. Your activity is immaterial.

JustAnotherOneWhoWaits wrote:Finally, it arrived. Thanks everyone for all the helpful posts and for sharing the pain of waiting. It was much easier waiting knowing there are many more people in my situation.

My final timeline:
Application Sent: 24/06/16
Application Received: 27/06/16
Payment Taken: 01/07/16
Confirmation Email (EEA): 28/07/16
Biometrics letter (Non-EEA): 30/07/16 (Dated 27/07/16)
Biometrics done: 30/07/16
COA (Non-EEA): 02/08/16
PR Card (Non-EEA): 13/01/17 by DX Courier (Dated 09/01/17)
DCPR (EEA) and Documents: 13/01/17 by Royal Mail (Dated 09/01/17)

Good luck everyone!

Hi,
I would be very grateful if you could help me in filling up the form as it seems confusing while putting it as a joint application. I am the EEA National and husband is non EEA.


Many Thanks,

nwaotu wrote:Hi Elnof, I think it is a mistake or maybe you were issued a residence card rather than a permanent residence card because a permanent residence card would always bear "PERMANENT RESIDENCE" under the "TYPE OF PERMIT" section. Permanent residence cards are renewable after 10 years. Residence cards are valid for 5 years.

I think you need to contact the Home Office as a mistake has been made or maybe they thought you weren't qualified for a permanent residence card consequently, issued you a residence card (it happens sometimes)

I have copied and pasted as seen below the Home Office email address for biometric residence cards reports that is if it has got a mistake on it:

Email the Home Office on BRCerror@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk within 10 days of receiving your residence card or permanent residence card if there’s a mistake on it.

Include the following in your email:
your full name, date of birth and nationality
your passport number
your case reference number
a contact telephone number
your delivery address
details of exactly what information is wrong

So, I followed the steps and that's how it went:
1- sent email explaining the problem
2- received an automated response that "if you are responding to an email, then we'll answer, otherwise, your email will be automatically deleted. please follow one of the following links that best-suits your case: ....etc"
3- followed the link and it took me to an "online form". I attempted to submit the form more than 30 times, from different devices, on different connections and different browsers, to no avail...
4- Last resort: send a "letter" to the address listed in the decision letter (it's a freepost address, so you can't track it!)
5- one week later, I received an email acknowledging receipt of the letter and telling me it's gone to the caseworker.
6- few days later, I got a call from the case worker (the lady in whose hands my family's stability was hanging for 6.5 months) acknowledging the error on the card and asking me to send the messed up card so that she can send the new one.
7- once she received the bad card, she posted the correct one... case closed.



I hope others take note of this case and check their cards thoroughly on receipt. It's quite inconvenient that the UKBA don't show samples of how cards should look like, so if it wasn't for you guys, I would probably be still using the bad card, which could've caused me whatever trouble with the UKBA in airports.


Best of luck to everyone and I hope we're done with this Brexit nightmare soon!

Hi, I'm an EEA national and I try to fill the EEA PR FORM. I have to prove I was self employed and from the EEA PR Guide I found that I need this:

3. Evidence that the business is/was actively trading At least two of the following:
 copies of invoices for services provided
 contracts to provide services
 receipts for purchase of tools or business equipment
 testimonials or references from clients, with their contact details (note: we will verify these
documents)
 examples of business advertising (such as flyers, online advertising, listing in Yellow Pages,
listing in trade magazines or on trade websites)
 any other relevant evidence.

I have invoice, but no contracts or advertising or receipts (not enough ) to prove this and my clients from 2011 -2013 are not to easy to reach. So what can I do? Is this necessary? I know that is not mandatory to fill in Eea PR form so maybe the guide is not mandatory to follow as well. But from February the EEA PR form has to be filled in. Therefore the guide must be followed as well. If I apply in January without those references from clients what are my chances to take permanent residence?

Camy33 wrote:Hi, I'm an EEA national and I try to fill the EEA PR FORM. I have to prove I was self employed and from the EEA PR Guide I found that I need this:

3. Evidence that the business is/was actively trading At least two of the following:
 copies of invoices for services provided
 contracts to provide services
 receipts for purchase of tools or business equipment
 testimonials or references from clients, with their contact details (note: we will verify these
documents)
 examples of business advertising (such as flyers, online advertising, listing in Yellow Pages,
listing in trade magazines or on trade websites)
 any other relevant evidence.

I have invoice, but no contracts or advertising or receipts (not enough ) to prove this and my clients from 2011 -2013 are not to easy to reach. So what can I do? Is this necessary? I know that is not mandatory to fill in Eea PR form so maybe the guide is not mandatory to follow as well. But from February the EEA PR form has to be filled in. Therefore the guide must be followed as well. If I apply in January without those references from clients what are my chances to take permanent residence?

The guide is not the law.
But it is what HO caseworkers use to weigh up and assess applicants.

If you do not submit adequate supporting evidence you are unlikely to succeed.

I never posted on this forum, but it helped me a lot to read other time lines, so I am going to post mine, for further help

Application Sent: 08/08/16
Application Received: 09/08/16
Payment Taken: 10/08/16
Confirmation Email (EEA): 12/09/16
PR Card and documents received (EEA): 28/01/17 by Royal Mail

Hi
Can any one help please???
I'm EEA national and i have got my EEA PR
with in 5 months.

NOW I WOULD LIKE To APPLY For My Family EEA PR
because they Will complete 5 years continue living in U.K.

I'm trying to complete there forms
Confused in some sections

If I have filled correctly???

Payment details
Biometric information for non eea national
Section : 1
Section : 2
Section : 3
Section : 5
Section : 9
Section : 16
Section : 17
Section : 18
Section : 19
And document check list

Please help me ?
Regards,
Ahmad

eLnof wrote:

nwaotu wrote:Hi Elnof, I think it is a mistake or maybe you were issued a residence card rather than a permanent residence card because a permanent residence card would always bear "PERMANENT RESIDENCE" under the "TYPE OF PERMIT" section. Permanent residence cards are renewable after 10 years. Residence cards are valid for 5 years.

I think you need to contact the Home Office as a mistake has been made or maybe they thought you weren't qualified for a permanent residence card consequently, issued you a residence card (it happens sometimes)

I have copied and pasted as seen below the Home Office email address for biometric residence cards reports that is if it has got a mistake on it:

Email the Home Office on BRCerror@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk within 10 days of receiving your residence card or permanent residence card if there’s a mistake on it.

Include the following in your email:
your full name, date of birth and nationality
your passport number
your case reference number
a contact telephone number
your delivery address
details of exactly what information is wrong

So, I followed the steps and that's how it went:
1- sent email explaining the problem
2- received an automated response that "if you are responding to an email, then we'll answer, otherwise, your email will be automatically deleted. please follow one of the following links that best-suits your case: ....etc"
3- followed the link and it took me to an "online form". I attempted to submit the form more than 30 times, from different devices, on different connections and different browsers, to no avail...
4- Last resort: send a "letter" to the address listed in the decision letter (it's a freepost address, so you can't track it!)
5- one week later, I received an email acknowledging receipt of the letter and telling me it's gone to the caseworker.
6- few days later, I got a call from the case worker (the lady in whose hands my family's stability was hanging for 6.5 months) acknowledging the error on the card and asking me to send the messed up card so that she can send the new one.
7- once she received the bad card, she posted the correct one... case closed.



I hope others take note of this case and check their cards thoroughly on receipt. It's quite inconvenient that the UKBA don't show samples of how cards should look like, so if it wasn't for you guys, I would probably be still using the bad card, which could've caused me whatever trouble with the UKBA in airports.


Best of luck to everyone and I hope we're done with this Brexit nightmare soon!

Hi Elnof, I knew that the Home Office made a mistake. What address did you send the letter to?

non-EEA(PR) sent on 11/01/2017
Fee taken 13/01/2017
Bio letter 26/01/2017
Bio done 30/01/2017

Hi All,

Here is our timeline for Joint application of EEA and NON-EEA nationals for PR:

SENT:11/10/2016
DELIEVERED: 12/10/2016
PAYMENT TAKEN: 13/10/2016
BIOMETRIC LETTER DATED: 24/10/2016
BIOMETRICS SUBMITTED:27/10/2016
CONFIRMATION EMAIL:25/10/2016
COA:01/11/2016
PR:?
DOCUMENTS:?

We're planning to travel on 30th of April, which would be exactly 6th month of waiting. Could anyone please advise whether it's safe to buy tickets now, because later on the price is going to be doubled?

Many thanks,
Tanya

Hi all,

My main question is about absences.
I came to UK in 2009 and until 2015 I have been living and working in UK, exercising treaty rights.
But after 2016 I went to work one year abroad. Now I am back to UK and I want to apply for the PR.

Am I right if, in the list of absences in UK, I should just write down the absences belonging the 5 year period I was exercising treaty rights (2009-2014) In fact, shouldn't all my documentation be covering those 5 years only?

Or should I also write down in the absences list everything from my arrival to UK until the present day, that means, the year 2015, and that year 2016 that I was outside UK?

If so, such a long absence would be a problem? I just wanted to go abroad to a very good company to improve my skills. Kind of a "vocational" training.

Thanks a lot for your help,I haven't been able to find a clear answer about this.

loveforlove wrote:Hi All,

Here is our timeline for Joint application of EEA and NON-EEA nationals for PR:
...

We're planning to travel on 30th of April, which would be exactly 6th month of waiting. Could anyone please advise whether it's safe to buy tickets now, because later on the price is going to be doubled?

Many thanks,
Tanya

Risky.
But you could try requesting return of passports in meantime.

davidinuk wrote:Hi all,

My main question is about absences.
I came to UK in 2009 and until 2015 I have been living and working in UK, exercising treaty rights.
But after 2016 I went to work one year abroad. Now I am back to UK and I want to apply for the PR.

Am I right if, in the list of absences in UK, I should just write down the absences belonging the 5 year period I was exercising treaty rights (2009-2014) In fact, shouldn't all my documentation be covering those 5 years only?

Or should I also write down in the absences list everything from my arrival to UK until the present day, that means, the year 2015, and that year 2016 that I was outside UK?

If so, such a long absence would be a problem? I just wanted to go abroad to a very good company to improve my skills. Kind of a "vocational" training.

Thanks a lot for your help,I haven't been able to find a clear answer about this.

Evidence should cover 2009 up until now.
You may have acquired PR by 2014.
You have to show you haven't subsequently lost PR by prolonged absence from UK.
An absence of 1 year for someone who has the holy grail of PR status is acceptable.

So submit rock-solid evidence of exercising treaty rights continuously for a 5 year period eg 2009-2014 or 2010 -2015.
And of your residence in UK from 2009 - 2017 (now).
Show absences clearly too, with dates and evidence of exit and re-entry.

loveforlove wrote:Hi All,

We're planning to travel on 30th of April, which would be exactly 6th month of waiting. Could anyone please advise whether it's safe to buy tickets now, because later on the price is going to be doubled?

Many thanks,
Tanya

As Noajthan has said, request the return of your passports, however make sure the RC for non-eea national still valid, if no don't take the risk, or pay a bit extra for your tickets so you could change the dates at anytime! it's up to you do you really want to loose the money or pay extra now or later !

All the best,
Softy M

softy monster wrote:

loveforlove wrote:Hi All,

We're planning to travel on 30th of April, which would be exactly 6th month of waiting. Could anyone please advise whether it's safe to buy tickets now, because later on the price is going to be doubled?

Many thanks,
Tanya

As Noajthan has said, request the return of your passports, however make sure the RC for non-eea national still valid, if no don't take the risk, or pay a bit extra for your tickets so you could change the dates at anytime! it's up to you do you really want to loose the money or pay extra now or later !

All the best,
Softy M

Thank you for your replies!
RC of Non-EEA national is valid until 15/05/2017. Return ticket is on 14/05/2017. Am I allowed to travel back in this case?

Hi All

If anyone has filled ( NON EEA ) PR forms

Please help me

Which sections have to fill for non eea pr

Thanks

loveforlove wrote:

softy monster wrote:

loveforlove wrote:Hi All,

We're planning to travel on 30th of April, which would be exactly 6th month of waiting. Could anyone please advise whether it's safe to buy tickets now, because later on the price is going to be doubled?

Many thanks,
Tanya

As Noajthan has said, request the return of your passports, however make sure the RC for non-eea national still valid, if no don't take the risk, or pay a bit extra for your tickets so you could change the dates at anytime! it's up to you do you really want to loose the money or pay extra now or later !

All the best,
Softy M

Thank you for your replies!
RC of Non-EEA national is valid until 15/05/2017. Return ticket is on 14/05/2017. Am I allowed to travel back in this case?

Yes, as long as you cross the UK boarder before 15/05/2017 you should be fine. If not Non-EEA would have a hard time proving relationship with EEA national without a marriage certificate and an expired RC. All the same all being well PR might be approved before you take off.

noajthan wrote:

davidinuk wrote:Hi all,

My main question is about absences.
I came to UK in 2009 and until 2015 I have been living and working in UK, exercising treaty rights.
But after 2016 I went to work one year abroad. Now I am back to UK and I want to apply for the PR.

Am I right if, in the list of absences in UK, I should just write down the absences belonging the 5 year period I was exercising treaty rights (2009-2014) In fact, shouldn't all my documentation be covering those 5 years only?

Or should I also write down in the absences list everything from my arrival to UK until the present day, that means, the year 2015, and that year 2016 that I was outside UK?

If so, such a long absence would be a problem? I just wanted to go abroad to a very good company to improve my skills. Kind of a "vocational" training.

Thanks a lot for your help,I haven't been able to find a clear answer about this.

Evidence should cover 2009 up until now.
You may have acquired PR by 2014.
You have to show you haven't subsequently lost PR by prolonged absence from UK.
An absence of 1 year for someone who has the holy grail of PR status is acceptable.

So submit rock-solid evidence of exercising treaty rights continuously for a 5 year period eg 2009-2014 or 2010 -2015.
And of your residence in UK from 2009 - 2017 (now).
Show absences clearly too, with dates and evidence of exit and re-entry.

Thanks a lot for your help.
I think an absence of 2 years would cause for sure lose of PR status, so 1 year shouldn't be a problem (but you never know) so I will give it a shot, showing all treaty rights evidences from 2009 until 2015 and all absences until today.
Thanks again

Hi all,

I have applied for my and 18 month daughters PR card in August 26th. Payment was taken on 2 Sep, Received Certificate of application and Biometric request letter on13th sep, Biometric for my daughter sent on 18th September. requested my documents back on 22nd December but I havent received my documents back yet. It will b 5 months on 2 Feb, what should i do? I am very worried about my application

Oh same here, you are not alone. My husband (non EU) applied for PR card on the 17th Aug and till now, nothing. Not sure what's going on with Home office and non-EEA applications, it seems they dont care about the 6 months rule anymore. So welcome on board.

Kulsumahmedmia wrote:Hi all,

I have applied for my and 18 month daughters PR card in August 26th. Payment was taken on 2 Sep, Received Certificate of application and Biometric request letter on13th sep, Biometric for my daughter sent on 18th September. requested my documents back on 22nd December but I havent received my documents back yet. It will b 5 months on 2 Feb, what should i do? I am very worried about my application

you have just answered your own question, you better off keep yourself busy, talk about it when you more than 6 months and even that you may not say much anyway!

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Thank you for your replies!
RC of Non-EEA national is valid until 15/05/2017. Return ticket is on 14/05/2017. Am I allowed to travel back in this case?[/quote]

Yes, as long as you cross the UK boarder before 15/05/2017 you should be fine. If not Non-EEA would have a hard time proving relationship with EEA national without a marriage certificate and an expired RC. All the same all being well PR might be approved before you take off.[/quote]

It's risky and you know that, how about if he/she couldn't make it back to UK on that date, it's not a week/month, it's just one day! That's me and i don't know someone else

Hi everyone I have recived my pr document today with my family.
My timeline : Application sent: 08/10/16
Application received:11/10/16
Payment taken:13/10/16
Confirmation email :never
PR document received (EEA): 02/02/2017
Can anyone help as we have received only document permament resident , but I think it will be card? Is it card only for no EEA national or for EEA national as well . ???

annagabor2825 wrote:Hi everyone I have recived my pr document today with my family.
My timeline : Application sent: 08/10/16
Application received:11/10/16
Payment taken:13/10/16
Confirmation email :never
PR document received (EEA): 02/02/2017
Can anyone help as we have received only document permament resident , but I think it will be card? Is it card only for no EEA national or for EEA national as well . ???

the card PRC (credit card shape) will be for non-eea
the blue paper card DCPR (PR sticker inside it) will be for EEA

All right then , thanks for yours answer,have a nice day:)