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Post by saramarcs » Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:58 pm

Hello guys,

Have someone asked their passport back and travelled abroad (out from Europe) with the passport and COA?

Anyone has had this expirience? How was it in the UK boarder when back?

Thank you very much!

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Post by Stefan7 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:31 pm

Hello
I printed out the 85 pages of application form for EEA PR card. My question is about the sponsor. Do I need to have one? I am from EEA country (Slovakia). It says that I need to send two photos of myself and my sponsor need to send one too, also he/she needs to send nearly the same amount of documents as I do. Am I right or I misunderstand something?
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Post by andyrek » Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:10 pm

Stefan7 wrote:Hello
I printed out the 85 pages of application form for EEA PR card. My question is about the sponsor. Do I need to have one? I am from EEA country (Slovakia). It says that I need to send two photos of myself and my sponsor need to send one too, also he/she needs to send nearly the same amount of documents as I do. Am I right or I misunderstand something?
Thank you
No, you don't as long as you are qualified person - see definition:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _clean.pdf
In other words, if you were "worker", self employed, etc. for at least 5 years, you don't need a sponsor.

What is very important in your case is WRS, as Slovakia is A8 country. Be careful if you entered UK before April 2011 and make sure you included your documents/evidences.

BTW, fill in and send only pages that apply to you. They suggest you skip everything else to save environment, postal cost, etc.

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Post by Stefan7 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:17 pm

Thank you for your reply. I entered UK in 2006 and I am working full time since. I find it interesting that the HO needs all these documents although many of these informations are accessible from my NI. They could have access to all my history since the first day I received my NI card. And that would be more environment friendly.
Thank you anyway, I will be back if I need any more information.

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Post by Aemaeth » Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:22 pm

I have a question, I'm Spanish living in UK for the past 3 years. I can proove that i am a qualified person since there. do I must wait the 5 years in order to apply?

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Post by Right » Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:12 pm

noajthan wrote: You apply to naturalise via HO before applying for first passport via HMPO.
CID is an internal HO system.

You need good if not unimpeachable evidence for at least a 5-year period showing you exercised treaty rights as a qualified person in one of more categories.
If you do not have at least that that you will fail.
If you have been in UK longer than 5 years and other evidence is patchy then so be it.

As well as evidence of treaty rights, you will still need to show your residency in UK, absences within limits as well as proof of your id ofcourse.
Thank you so much. I assume the CID won't be explicitly stated if I get my residence document. With that in mind, do you know if can I contact the HO and ask explicitly for the date to inform my passport application?

I also keep forgetting about proving residence (I still think having a job should count as evidence for that but obviously not).

Anyway, you have been so helpful, I feel like you should charge the HO for your services :).

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Post by Stefan7 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:41 am

andyrek wrote:
Stefan7 wrote:Hello
I printed out the 85 pages of application form for EEA PR card. My question is about the sponsor. Do I need to have one? I am from EEA country (Slovakia). It says that I need to send two photos of myself and my sponsor need to send one too, also he/she needs to send nearly the same amount of documents as I do. Am I right or I misunderstand something?
Thank you
No, you don't as long as you are qualified person - see definition:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _clean.pdf
In other words, if you were "worker", self employed, etc. for at least 5 years, you don't need a sponsor.

What is very important in your case is WRS, as Slovakia is A8 country. Be careful if you entered UK before April 2011 and make sure you included your documents/evidences.

BTW, fill in and send only pages that apply to you. They suggest you skip everything else to save environment, postal cost, etc.
Also I would like to know how soon the HO will send back my passport as I need to travel in April? Do they check these documents straight away and send them back or keep them till the end of process? (e.g. 6months?)

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Post by ohara » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:54 am

They will keep your documents throughout the whole process but you can request them back earlier if you need to travel: https://www.gov.uk/visa-documents-returned

By the way if you are an EEA citizen it shouldn't take anywhere near 6 months, mine took 9 weeks and some members have got theirs in as little as 6.

http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-ro ... 99775.html

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Post by Stefan7 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:27 am

In this case I will need to wait until April as there is no guarantee that I will get my ID back before my travel. (Traveling within EU). I assume recently expired passport is not acceptable valid document by the HO.

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Post by heath2006 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:07 pm

Hi,
Could anyone who has asked for their documents to be returned help me out here please? I just started to fill in this online form and it asks for the main applicant's (that's me as the EU national) case ID, HO reference number and payment reference number. I don't have any of these. My husband (non EU national) has received a case ID because he was sent the biometrics letter as well as the COA. Am I supposed to leave it all blank?
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Post by Orxy » Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:54 pm

Petanque wrote:
had66 wrote:
medlence wrote:EEA PR EU Citizen

Application sent: 23.01.2016
Documents received: 25.01.2016
Payment taken: 27.01.2016

Will keep you updated with the rest of the timeline.

Hi, could you please confirm how the payment is shown in your bank statement? I had my payment taken last week, but the bank statement only says EURO Liverpool, there is no reference number. I wanted to request sponsors passport back, but not sure what payment reference to include (and there is no application number yet). Also did you receive any invoice/ email confirmation? Thanks a lot!
Hi, you can request sponsor's passport back by using Royal mail tracking number, if you do not have your case number yet.

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Post by Orxy » Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:57 pm

heath2006 wrote:Hi,
Could anyone who has asked for their documents to be returned help me out here please? I just started to fill in this online form and it asks for the main applicant's (that's me as the EU national) case ID, HO reference number and payment reference number. I don't have any of these. My husband (non EU national) has received a case ID because he was sent the biometrics letter as well as the COA. Am I supposed to leave it all blank?
Thanks
Hi, you can use his case ID number when requesting docs back. Also, you can writhe royal mail tracking number even without case ID, HO reference number or payment reference number. your docs should arrive to you within 10 working days, ie two weeks.

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Post by ohara » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:01 am

heath2006 wrote:Hi,
Could anyone who has asked for their documents to be returned help me out here please? I just started to fill in this online form and it asks for the main applicant's (that's me as the EU national) case ID, HO reference number and payment reference number. I don't have any of these. My husband (non EU national) has received a case ID because he was sent the biometrics letter as well as the COA. Am I supposed to leave it all blank?
Thanks
I am an EEA national and I have no idea if I have a HO reference number. I have certainly never seen one on any documents of mine.

The case ID comes in the confirmation email; I received this 3 weeks after they took my payment. Is it possible to advance through the form without filling any of those boxes in? They should be able to find your application on the name alone. I'm pretty sure I only gave the case ID and I got my passport back 4 days later.

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Post by heath2006 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:38 pm

Thanks guys. I have not received an email confirmation or any correspondence from the HO at all so will leave the case ID and HO reference field blank when requesting my documents back.

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Post by noajthan » Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:36 pm

@Calim, to avoid confusion & jumbled responses, I have moved your question to its own thread:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-ro ... 03795.html
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Post by Riff_Raff » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:40 pm

I have a question I am Polish and currently filling out my EEA PR application. I arrived in the UK in 2009 and worked under the WRS scheme.
The thing is I started working for two agencies at the very beginning - I did just one day of work in total for one of them and continued to work for the other agency for which I filled out an application for the required WRS documents.

I applied for a EE1 blue book a year after just for confirmation.Looking through the copy of my EE1 I didn't mention that one day of employment for the other agency. I wasn't required to register if I only did 1 day of work as I understand but should I mention it now in my EEA PR application?

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Post by LoryAndra » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:48 am

Riff_Raff wrote:I have a question I am Polish and currently filling out my EEA PR application. I arrived in the UK in 2009 and worked under the WRS scheme.
The thing is I started working for two agencies at the very beginning - I did just one day of work in total for one of them and continued to work for the other agency for which I filled out an application for the required WRS documents.

I applied for a EE1 blue book a year after just for confirmation.Looking through the copy of my EE1 I didn't mention that one day of employment for the other agency. I wasn't required to register if I only did 1 day of work as I understand but should I mention it now in my EEA PR application?
Hi,

I am a Romanian nationality doing my PR application at the moment (hope to submit within a month ) and I had overlapping situations with my work as well. Since we are talking about just a day, I wouldn't mention it. It will create more hassle and confusion. And its not a big deal at all.

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Post by LoryAndra » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:49 am

Aemaeth wrote:I have a question, I'm Spanish living in UK for the past 3 years. I can proove that i am a qualified person since there. do I must wait the 5 years in order to apply?
Hi,

I am afraid you need to wait for 5 years. 3 years is the qualifying period if married with a British nationality.

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Post by hellothere19 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:31 am

hello
I'm Belgian and lived/worked continuously here since 2001. I will submit docs between 2009-2014 as proof of residence
However section 5 requires me to list all my absences since 2001... I can't remember all the short breaks/holidays I took, nor the dates of travel. I am even struggling to think where we went in 2009/2010...
Dual national since Jan 2018 :) Belgian and British

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Post by LoryAndra » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:32 pm

hellothere19 wrote:hello
I'm Belgian and lived/worked continuously here since 2001. I will submit docs between 2009-2014 as proof of residence
However section 5 requires me to list all my absences since 2001... I can't remember all the short breaks/holidays I took, nor the dates of travel. I am even struggling to think where we went in 2009/2010...
HI,

I was facing the same issue. I never kept a record of my travels but I tried to recover them from various source.
-first I would suggest to go to your all airline /bookings accounts and might find some of them there
-second option would be to search in your email cause you must have provided an email for pretty much all the bookings
-the best option is to ask from UK Border see the link below about all the records they have about you. I personally did that and they sent me most of my trips. It wasn't each of them but was a great help. And also is free of charge.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -for-govuk

Hope this helps you!

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Post by hellothere19 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:57 pm

LoryAndra wrote:
hellothere19 wrote:hello
I'm Belgian and lived/worked continuously here since 2001. I will submit docs between 2009-2014 as proof of residence
However section 5 requires me to list all my absences since 2001... I can't remember all the short breaks/holidays I took, nor the dates of travel. I am even struggling to think where we went in 2009/2010...
HI,

I was facing the same issue. I never kept a record of my travels but I tried to recover them from various source.
-first I would suggest to go to your all airline /bookings accounts and might find some of them there
-second option would be to search in your email cause you must have provided an email for pretty much all the bookings
-the best option is to ask from UK Border see the link below about all the records they have about you. I personally did that and they sent me most of my trips. It wasn't each of them but was a great help. And also is free of charge.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -for-govuk

Hope this helps you!
thanks for the info
I scoured my emails but didn't find all the emails re my trips. My emails get cleared out every 6 months
Did it take you long to get these records?
ALso, I don't have record of my very old passport number pre 2009, as this was kept by my embassy when I got my new one. If I only knew, I would have kept record of it
Dual national since Jan 2018 :) Belgian and British

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Post by LoryAndra » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:50 pm

hellothere19 wrote:
LoryAndra wrote:
hellothere19 wrote:hello
I'm Belgian and lived/worked continuously here since 2001. I will submit docs between 2009-2014 as proof of residence
However section 5 requires me to list all my absences since 2001... I can't remember all the short breaks/holidays I took, nor the dates of travel. I am even struggling to think where we went in 2009/2010...
HI,

I was facing the same issue. I never kept a record of my travels but I tried to recover them from various source.
-first I would suggest to go to your all airline /bookings accounts and might find some of them there
-second option would be to search in your email cause you must have provided an email for pretty much all the bookings
-the best option is to ask from UK Border see the link below about all the records they have about you. I personally did that and they sent me most of my trips. It wasn't each of them but was a great help. And also is free of charge.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -for-govuk

Hope this helps you!
thanks for the info
I scoured my emails but didn't find all the emails re my trips. My emails get cleared out every 6 months
Did it take you long to get these records?
ALso, I don't have record of my very old passport number pre 2009, as this was kept by my embassy when I got my new one. If I only knew, I would have kept record of it

When I subminted my request it took around 10 working day to get- lets say apron 2 weeks. However, on their website they say it can take up yo 40 days. Also, I had to submit a copy of previous passports. Lucky I kept all go them. Don't you have at least a copy or the passport no saved somewhere?

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Post by jetfromgladiators » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:11 pm

My Greek wife is currently in the process of applying for a PR card using form EEA (PR). She has lived in the UK since 1998, but she has changed her status throughout that process. Between October 1998 and September 2003 she was a full-time student in Scotland and England. Between December 2003 and December 2005 she was working full time, then had a short gap in employment until May 2006, then worked from May 2006 until April 2011, then was off work due to sickness (RSI) until September 2011, then worked from September 2011 until August 2013, then became a full-time student in September 2013. She is still a full-time student.

I have read on some posts on this thread that she would have acquired permanent residency automatically in 2003, but we have no paperwork to prove this. I'm wondering if we can apply for the period 2006-2011, or if the short gaps between jobs will count against her. We married in 2008 and have lived together since 2004, but have no tenancy agreements for the period 2004-2007.

What would be the best way of applying for permanent residency?

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Post by hellothere19 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:21 pm

When I subminted my request it took around 10 working day to get- lets say apron 2 weeks. However, on their website they say it can take up yo 40 days. Also, I had to submit a copy of previous passports. Lucky I kept all go them. Don't you have at least a copy or the passport no saved somewhere?[/quote]

They are only asking copy of one passport, and the only nrs of previous ones. I cannot give them any info re my passport between 2001-2009 as I do not have a copy. I just have my current nr and one expired one. I never thought I would need it :roll:

I'm claiming residency for the period 2009-2014, for which hopefully I will get my movement details from Border Agency.
I am not able to give exact details of travel between 2001-2009
Dual national since Jan 2018 :) Belgian and British

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Post by LoryAndra » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:35 pm

Then , you can submit with the current and expired one and hope that they can trace other trips when you used other passports. Also they search according to the DOB and Full name. Anyway, its worth trying, you don't loose anything and defiantly you get some of your trips record!

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