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Croatian national (EU) wanting to stay with her UK partner

Post by goddesserika » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:31 pm

Hi, need help quite urgently :cry: I moved in with my UK partner during last December to settle, to find a job but my 90 days visit expires soon. I moved in as we thought I would manage to get a job with Tier 2, sponsorship, but time's running out. We meant to get married as well, but I don't have a passport as I travel on my ID card and the registry office only accepts passport. Is there a way that I can stay legally in UK, without going back home? which visa? stay to apply for? I got lost in reading it all on gov.cok.uk, we cant prove that we are at the same address for two years as I said, I only moved in recently. Please help, we don't want any inconveniences, ty :)

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Re: Croatian national (EU) wanting to stay with her UK partn

Post by CR001 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:36 pm

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Re: Croatian national (EU) wanting to stay with her UK partn

Post by goddesserika » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:49 pm

CR001 wrote:See the link below.

https://www.gov.uk/croatian-national/overview
I ve read that many times, first the option was purple card when i get the job, than a blue, as we meant to get married anyway. I applied for over 50 jobs, got near a few interviews, it seems that getting a job with a sponsorship is a lot harder than originally planned, lots of companies that can provide sponsorship won't do it, I understand it s costly for them. I d like to stay with my partner and have no troubles, thought the national ID card for the Registry office should be enough, if it s enough for the borders and crossings

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Re: Croatian national (EU) wanting to stay with her UK partn

Post by dapto10 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:01 pm

Hi there,

First, take a deep breath and don't panic. It's not that hard for Croats, yet.

If I were you, I would have registered as self-employed (no restrictions there for Croatian nationals), applied for a National Insturance number and started working... anything really. You can do certain jobs as self-employed.

As for staying legally, nobody will remove you from the country until we eventually leave the EU (unless you commit a crime or sleep rough) but you won't be treated as a qualified person. So long story short, you could stay but your time here won't count towards anything (Permanent Residence, etc.), you won't be able to use the NHS and will have no access to welfare, which is fair.

You don't need and can't obtain a visa as - simply put - under current rules EEA nationals are not subject to the UK immigration system. Croatian nationals are subject to transitional controls but there aren't restrictions for becoming self-employed.

Marriage won't be easy, as you've already learned the Register Office will look at your circumstances with suspicion :( It's become tough, sadly. UK authorities in general (not only the registry) look at ID cards differently, it's not like on the Continent where ID=passport. Even your bank will ideally want to see your passport before opening an account for you. I'd go to the Croatian embassy in London and get a passport, this will make your life easier too.

Long story short, try and be creative. Register as self-employed (Link 1: https://www.gov.uk/working-for-yourself, Link 2: https://www.gov.uk/set-up-sole-trader). See what you can do, you could even try translations if your English is good, find a job as a sub-contractor, if you drive you could become a Deliveroo driver, anything. If you really want to stay here with your partner, you'll have to be creative.

Don't worry for staying here 'legally' (for the time being). When they say 'legally' to EEA nationals it means exercising Treaty Rights. There are thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of EEA nationals who live here and don't exercise Treaty Rights. The only thing that makes you different as a Croat is the fact that you have no access to the labour market. If you become self-employed or exercise treaty right as a self-sufficient individual, you'll be absolutely fine. Get your Croatian EHIC sorted too, this will help you maintain self-sufficient status.

Best of luck!

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CR 1 form - blue or yellow certificate

Post by goddesserika » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:26 am

I am trying to complete CR1 form, for Croatian nationals, it s more or less straightforward, but in section 2 (2.5) it asks for passport number which I don't hold atm, I can travel on my ID card and that s how I entered UK, I m wondering, do I leave it blank or fill it in with my ID card number? All other places have either/or passport or ID, this one doesn't. Would really hate it if all other things are Ok, that my application gets rejected for something like this, thanks :)

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