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Use this section for queries concerning applications on any of the EEA series of forms, and also for applications for EEA Family Permits.

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Post by Plum70 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:17 pm

I feel that the potency of this successful thread is being doused by posts that perhaps are better suited to a separate thread.

The primary aim of this thread is to report on the experience of EEA4 processing in a way that encourages readers who may be looking for information, wanting to share successes or ask pertinent questions.

Personal reservations about the UK govt./UKBA and its minions should be discussed separately please as the reading experience here is beginning to look very messy and uninviting.

BTW, any successes of late? Let's keep January's chill out and share some good news!

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Post by Aladin0987 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:50 pm

plum u r not telling what u really believe is true. I do understand what this thread is 4 and that is why I am here, to get info and help regarding myEEA4.
But I have just noticed the fact that after I show my interest in the UKBA's brutality and barbarizm mentality I began to lose freinds or better saying began to lose answers and no one answer my urgent and life threatening qustiouns.

"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds"

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Post by yankeegirl » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:55 pm

Hey all, it's been a long time since I posted on here. I sent off my EEA4 application the last week in September, and I only recently received the Certificate of Application (dated January 9). Does it normally take them so long to send the COA? I hope it isn't a sign that they are taking a long time to decide applications :(

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EEA4

Post by Marco25 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:10 pm

Hi yankeegirl,
In response to your question I have to say that unfortunatly there is no straight forward pattern for uk border agency to deal with applications, I don't understand why should take 6 month or more in first place, I really wants to know what do they check which take so long. My personal opinion is they do it purposely to play with applicant mind. Good luck

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Re: EEA4

Post by Jambo » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:15 pm

Marco25 wrote:Hi yankeegirl,
In response to your question I have to say that unfortunatly there is no straight forward pattern for uk border agency to deal with applications, I don't understand why should take 6 month or more in first place, I really wants to know what do they check which take so long. My personal opinion is they do it purposely to play with applicant mind. Good luck
The actual handling of the application probably doesn't take more than 1-2 hours but it's the backlog that causes the delay i.e. more applications than the number of people who could handle them so they just wait in a long queue/pile. With the cuts in the number of HO staff, I don't expect it to get any better.

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Re: EEA4

Post by Marco25 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:06 pm

[quote="Jambo"][quote="Marco25"]Hi yankeegirl,
In response to your question I have to say that unfortunatly there is no straight forward pattern for uk border agency to deal with applications, I don't understand why should take 6 month or more in first place, I really wants to know what do they check which take so long. My personal opinion is they do it purposely to play with applicant mind. Good luck[/quote]
The actual handling of the application probably doesn't take more than 1-2 hours but it's the backlog that causes the delay i.e. more applications than the number of people who could handle them so they just wait in a long queue/pile. With the cuts in the number of HO staff, I don't expect it to get any better.[/quote]
Hi jambo,
I have to be disagree with you, I don't think is just case of backlog only, if you read some of review here you will see some people been deal with much faster than the others I think there are few factors like nationality of applicant and so many other thing which I don't really like to open the subject here.

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Post by Aladin0987 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:20 pm

Marco u r right and Jambo is wrong and I assume he knows that he is wrong too! but "God Save the Queen's type of comment" has always ben used by the immoral spirits to find another cowardly safe atmosphere to practise their needs.

It is not a technical issue, it is a barbaric estimate and unlawful psychological files which is forbidden by every international laws but created by the police and MI5 against defenceless harassed individuals, dose not matter how important and power less the individual is but it is logical for a regime with such a bloody history to suspect every single desperate person lol

I may not be able to estimate the exact numbers of european application but I doubt it, it is far more less that u could ever imagine and I am sure we r not in the position of needing to know such a NUMBER as I can give u a brief of my little strange moral story.
I applied for asylum in 2002 and my application is still under consideration and technically is in that mentioned backlog as per Jan 2013 :lol:

"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts"
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EEA4 Applications: Is PR of EEA national enough

Post by Tyro » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:17 pm

Hello Everyone,
To our delight my wife has just received her PR document after apply for EEA3 in just six weeks. Now I wan to apply for PR using EEA4 form. Do I need to send the supporting documents for my wife that she has been exercising treaty rights, or if I can only send her PR document, along with marriage certificate, address proof and some bank statements.

I can send last five years council tax bills in both our names to show that we have been living together for last five years.

Please help us with your valuable information. What documents I need to provide with my EEA4.

Many Thanks

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Re: EEA4 Applications: Is PR of EEA national enough

Post by Marco25 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:33 pm

Hi all,
I have got my PR confirmation today.
Applied in September
Confirmation received in mid October
Pr today 24/01/13.
I just send myself and my wife(French) passport.
Also last 5 years p60 by my wife EU national and tenancy agreement on both name for last 5 years. No more no less I did not send any thing related to my work in uk at all, very light package.
I would advise you not to send irrelevant document, just make it easy for case worker, good luck to every one who is waiting.

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Re: EEA4 Applications: Is PR of EEA national enough

Post by renu » Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:49 pm

Marco25 wrote:Hi all,
I have got my PR confirmation today.
Applied in September
Confirmation received in mid October
Pr today 24/01/13.
I just send myself and my wife(French) passport.
Also last 5 years p60 by my wife EU national and tenancy agreement on both name for last 5 years. No more no less I did not send any thing related to my work in uk at all, very light package.
I would advise you not to send irrelevant document, just make it easy for case worker, good luck to every one who is waiting.
Congratulations.really good news.hope I will get my pr soon as I applied in September as well. Did they put ur pr in ur passports or it is card like the eaa nationals have?

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Re: EEA4 Applications: Is PR of EEA national enough

Post by Marco25 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:59 pm

Hi renu,
Thanks, it's a endorsement in my passport similar to resident card but instead of writing familly member of EU just is written permanent resident card and renew date is in 10 years time plus it's written no restriction for work. And also seprate letter confirming my right.
Good luck.

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Re: EEA4 Applications: Is PR of EEA national enough

Post by renu » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:15 pm

Marco25 wrote:Hi renu,
Thanks, it's a endorsement in my passport similar to resident card but instead of writing familly member of EU just is written permanent resident card and renew date is in 10 years time plus it's written no restriction for work. And also seprate letter confirming my right.
Good luck.
Thanks,I wonder how my pr will b issued as I have requested my passport back.does anyone know how HO issue pr when the passport is not in HO?

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Re: EEA4 Applications: Is PR of EEA national enough

Post by Marco25 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:23 pm

Renu, they endorse it on A4 paper for you.

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Re: EEA4 Applications: Is PR of EEA national enough

Post by renu » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:36 pm

Marco25 wrote:Renu, they endorse it on A4 paper for you.
Thanks,I hope it will look genuine to show at work place.

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Re: EEA4 Applications: Is PR of EEA national enough

Post by uk4rex.co.uk » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:04 am

renu wrote:
Marco25 wrote:Renu, they endorse it on A4 paper for you.
Thanks,I hope it will look genuine to show at work place.
I know PR is better than RC but I kind of like RC than that of PR, if you are traveling within Europe with or without your EEA Partner no one will ask you for visa if you have RC but you can be rejected entry with PR.

I got my RC in March 2010 and my PR in April 2012 but I make sure it was on A4 paper instead of my passport because I enjoy using my RC to travel all over Europe without visa.

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Re: EEA4 Applications: Is PR of EEA national enough

Post by spike_UK » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:52 am

uk4rex.co.uk wrote:
renu wrote:
Marco25 wrote:Renu, they endorse it on A4 paper for you.
Thanks,I hope it will look genuine to show at work place.
I know PR is better than RC but I kind of like RC than that of PR, if you are traveling within Europe with or without your EEA Partner no one will ask you for visa if you have RC but you can be rejected entry with PR.

I got my RC in March 2010 and my PR in April 2012 but I make sure it was on A4 paper instead of my passport because I enjoy using my RC to travel all over Europe without visa.
If you travel anywhere(in Europe or out) you either have to be with your EEA spouse or get the visa, if you have RC, otherwise you will be rejected!!! I don't know about PR as I haven't got it yet but I'm certain it will be the same!
Applied for EEA4 on 24/02/2012.
HO received on 27/02/2012.
Refusal received on 16/08/2012 dated 11/08/2012
At the court, the HO REP withdrawn the decision and asked me to send the DOC for the time before marriage.
PR dated 05/03/2013

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Post by dsab85 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:57 pm

Has been very quiet in terms of EEA4 approvals lately.

But reading Marco's timeline I am hoping the wait will be over soon for us. We applied at the beginning of Sept. received COA very quickly, got EEA passport returned quickly.

But that's where it ended for us. We requested non EEA passport back via Email and separately via recorded delivery early December, but didn't get any response at all.

Not ideal, but we got over it, as we are busy buying and fitting out a house, but would be nice to get it very soon. Already planning and preparing for Citizenship application, as my wife will be able to apply in 4 months.

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Post by Aladin0987 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:53 pm

Just to let u guys know my little strange story

-Been married for 5 years and lived togethr for 7 years
-My wife got PR after succesful EEA3 application
-I applied for EEA4 on 02 February 2012
-Made complaint several times since the begining of October by e-mail, fax and post but never got any reply from them.
-Been calling them few times a day they keep saying"your application is not being completed, we do not have further information and we can't requst for COA letter, u must wait"
-Requested Passport back first time on 05 October 2012 and again requested several times Via Email, application form, post, calling them but they never replyed and returned our doduments!
-Contacted Mp
-Opened case with Solvit
-Opened case with European Commition
-Opened case with European Ombudsman
-Opened case with European Parliament and made a petition


Got refused on 04 January 2013 :lol: What a Regime

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Post by Plum70 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:29 pm

Aladin0987 wrote:Just to let u guys know my little strange story

-Been married for 5 years and lived togethr for 7 years
-My wife got PR after succesful EEA3 application
-I applied for EEA4 on 02 February 2012
Got refused on 04 January 2013 :lol: What a Regime
Sounds bizarre on the face of it. What reason did the UKBA give for the refusal?

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Post by Plum70 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:38 pm

dsab85 wrote: Already planning and preparing for Citizenship application, as my wife will be able to apply in 4 months.
That's wise. One of the most important tasks is to study for, book and pass the Life in the UK test as soon as possible. I am currently studying for mine next week as once my PR confirmation comes through i'll be applying to naturalise.

Better not to be in a mad rush getting organised for your BC application.

I am surprised at how scant posts have become here of PR confirmation receipts. Is the UKBA really that slow?

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