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Post by spike_UK » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:47 pm

nidaulhaque wrote:
spike_UK wrote:
anp wrote:Well done spike. I am happy the stress and the wait is finally over. Best of luck with everything else buddy.
Thanks mate, I never gave up and I won it :) now I'm going to apply for British on the same bases( 6 yrs of relationship with EEA spouse but regardless of marriage which is only 4 yrs) that was how I applied for PR first I got refused then they apologized and granted me :)
I hope this time will work quicker :) good luck to the rest of you.
Good to hear, congrat

What visa was u on before marriage??? And did u apply eea2 ?? Was it after marriage???? And in your eea4 did you sent proof of residance before marriage initialy when u sent ur eea4 application? As u said after refusal they asked for documents before marriage??

Any info will be helpful as I am in same boat!!!
Thanks mate, you can read all my posts and I had a strange story,, well it wasnt strange but nobody was agree with me but I was right and I won :)
Here is all information:
I lived with my EEA spouse from January 2007 and got married on November 2008 got my RC on 2009 which ends 2014.
I applied for PR on February 2012( 5 yrs of relationship with my EEA meeting all the requirement as treaty rights and residance) regardless 5 yrs marriage or RC. I got refused on August 2012 with appeal, appeal was withdrew by homoffice and asking documents before marriage!! I got PR this week dated 05/03/2013 :)
Now I'm not waiting for 1 year to go over PR, I will now apply for Naturalization based on 6 yrs durable relationship(January 2007-2013)
If you have the same story, don't hesitate and read UKBA website. Good luck mate.
Applied for EEA4 on 24/02/2012.
HO received on 27/02/2012.
Refusal received on 16/08/2012 dated 11/08/2012
At the court, the HO REP withdrawn the decision and asked me to send the DOC for the time before marriage.
PR dated 05/03/2013

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Post by nidaulhaque » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:04 pm

Hi
Thanks for your reply,
Yes I did read your previous posts, just 2 things if u clear, what was your status before marriage? I mean which visa was u on? And did you include proof of residance documents before marriage when u sent your eea4 application? As u said in your post that after withdraw ho asked for documents before marriage?
spike_UK wrote:
nidaulhaque wrote:
spike_UK wrote:
anp wrote:Well done spike. I am happy the stress and the wait is finally over. Best of luck with everything else buddy.
Thanks mate, I never gave up and I won it :) now I'm going to apply for British on the same bases( 6 yrs of relationship with EEA spouse but regardless of marriage which is only 4 yrs) that was how I applied for PR first I got refused then they apologized and granted me :)
I hope this time will work quicker :) good luck to the rest of you.
Good to hear, congrat

What visa was u on before marriage??? And did u apply eea2 ?? Was it after marriage???? And in your eea4 did you sent proof of residance before marriage initialy when u sent ur eea4 application? As u said after refusal they asked for documents before marriage??

Any info will be helpful as I am in same boat!!!
Thanks mate, you can read all my posts and I had a strange story,, well it wasnt strange but nobody was agree with me but I was right and I won :)
Here is all information:
I lived with my EEA spouse from January 2007 and got married on November 2008 got my RC on 2009 which ends 2014.
I applied for PR on February 2012( 5 yrs of relationship with my EEA meeting all the requirement as treaty rights and residance) regardless 5 yrs marriage or RC. I got refused on August 2012 with appeal, appeal was withdrew by homoffice and asking documents before marriage!! I got PR this week dated 05/03/2013 :)
Now I'm not waiting for 1 year to go over PR, I will now apply for Naturalization based on 6 yrs durable relationship(January 2007-2013)
If you have the same story, don't hesitate and read UKBA website. Good luck mate.

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Post by spike_UK » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:11 pm

nidaulhaque wrote:Hi
Thanks for your reply,
Yes I did read your previous posts, just 2 things if u clear, what was your status before marriage? I mean which visa was u on? And did you include proof of residance documents before marriage when u sent your eea4 application? As u said in your post that after withdraw ho asked for documents before marriage?
spike_UK wrote:
nidaulhaque wrote:
spike_UK wrote: Thanks mate, I never gave up and I won it :) now I'm going to apply for British on the same bases( 6 yrs of relationship with EEA spouse but regardless of marriage which is only 4 yrs) that was how I applied for PR first I got refused then they apologized and granted me :)
I hope this time will work quicker :) good luck to the rest of you.
Good to hear, congrat

What visa was u on before marriage??? And did u apply eea2 ?? Was it after marriage???? And in your eea4 did you sent proof of residance before marriage initialy when u sent ur eea4 application? As u said after refusal they asked for documents before marriage??

Any info will be helpful as I am in same boat!!!
Thanks mate, you can read all my posts and I had a strange story,, well it wasnt strange but nobody was agree with me but I was right and I won :)
Here is all information:
I lived with my EEA spouse from January 2007 and got married on November 2008 got my RC on 2009 which ends 2014.
I applied for PR on February 2012( 5 yrs of relationship with my EEA meeting all the requirement as treaty rights and residance) regardless 5 yrs marriage or RC. I got refused on August 2012 with appeal, appeal was withdrew by homoffice and asking documents before marriage!! I got PR this week dated 05/03/2013 :)
Now I'm not waiting for 1 year to go over PR, I will now apply for Naturalization based on 6 yrs durable relationship(January 2007-2013)
If you have the same story, don't hesitate and read UKBA website. Good luck mate.
I had no visas as I was an asylme with refusal!! so I was only living here under NASS support :(, 2_yes I sent only the documents before marriage second time( as they requested).
Applied for EEA4 on 24/02/2012.
HO received on 27/02/2012.
Refusal received on 16/08/2012 dated 11/08/2012
At the court, the HO REP withdrawn the decision and asked me to send the DOC for the time before marriage.
PR dated 05/03/2013

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Post by nidaulhaque » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:17 pm

Oh same as me!!!
So did you not included documents before marriage in your origional eea4 application?

Here is my story
I am applying for EEA3 but not sure if my wife able to apply for EE4, here is the case:

living in uk 2003 claimed asylum.

got married with German national in January 2008 who moved from Germany and start living with me. (as i was on asylum and cant get married here in uk so we donr proxy marriage in our country)

March 2008 made application for EEA1 and EE2
Aprial 2009 made application for COA, Coa mean premission to merry, received April 2009
Registered marriage in uk may 2009
received EEA1 and EEA2 May 2009,

My wife applied for eea3 in jan 2013 whic is issued and pr received within 3 weeks then I made an application for eea4 in feb 2013 received Coa within week, will see what they will say!!!

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Post by spike_UK » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:26 pm

nidaulhaque wrote:Oh same as me!!!
So did you not included documents before marriage in your origional eea4 application?

Here is my story
I am applying for EEA3 but not sure if my wife able to apply for EE4, here is the case:

living in uk 2003 claimed asylum.

got married with German national in January 2008 who moved from Germany and start living with me. (as i was on asylum and cant get married here in uk so we donr proxy marriage in our country)

March 2008 made application for EEA1 and EE2
Aprial 2009 made application for COA, Coa mean premission to merry, received April 2009
Registered marriage in uk may 2009
received EEA1 and EEA2 May 2009,

My wife applied for eea3 in jan 2013 whic is issued and pr received within 3 weeks then I made an application for eea4 in feb 2013 received Coa within week, will see what they will say!!!
Did your wife exercise treaty right and resident in UK for last 5 years and ext? then you should be fine as you are married for 5 years already but I wasn't even married for 5 years, good luck and plz PM me what happened,, update
Applied for EEA4 on 24/02/2012.
HO received on 27/02/2012.
Refusal received on 16/08/2012 dated 11/08/2012
At the court, the HO REP withdrawn the decision and asked me to send the DOC for the time before marriage.
PR dated 05/03/2013

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Post by nidaulhaque » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:34 pm

Yes she already issued eea3 within 3 weeks!! So no problem with exercising treaty rights, just the marriage problem as uk does not accept proxy marriage but I was living together, hope they will not refuse

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Post by joanna2014 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:32 pm

hi my name is jo i am non EEA family member living in uk
from 2006
i marred with polish citzen women on 2007 December
i apply my family permit in 2008 but my five yers family permit visa come in 2009 which is expres in 2014 feb
my wife just in 2013 march decided to separation from me and she dint wan be with me any more and i have same feeling
we are still marred and no legal work been done so far
wee also have 2 bed house mortgage
wee dint have any children
my question is our Marriage is over five years old
in 2014 feb my visa is expiring
i have to make a EEA4 application can any one tell me how can i get my visa
as i mention already i dint want to take any more help from my wife and wee want to be saprated for good

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Re: EEA4

Post by nidaulhaque » Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:45 am

Well u can apply for eea4 now as you completed 5 years on dec 2012
To apply eea4 pr u need your wife passport and her proof of exercising treaty rights and marriage certificate with your and your wife's 5 years proof of residance and apply it or u can apply direct bc on dec 2013 but u do need help from her!!


joanna2014 wrote:hi my name is jo i am non EEA family member living in uk
from 2006
i marred with polish citzen women on 2007 December
i apply my family permit in 2008 but my five yers family permit visa come in 2009 which is expres in 2014 feb
my wife just in 2013 march decided to separation from me and she dint wan be with me any more and i have same feeling
we are still marred and no legal work been done so far
wee also have 2 bed house mortgage
wee dint have any children
my question is our Marriage is over five years old
in 2014 feb my visa is expiring
i have to make a EEA4 application can any one tell me how can i get my visa
as i mention already i dint want to take any more help from my wife and wee want to be saprated for good

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Post by nidaulhaque » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:05 pm

I made an eea4 application on 6th march and requested our passports back on 9th and they only returned my non eea passport on 15th and send many emails to them to request my eea passport and received today 25th with the letter dated 19th. on the first letter it says data proc tm liverpool 1 and now on the letter it says caseworker name with NWEURO8 so anyone had received they pr from this department, just wondering they quick on slow issuing pr

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Post by dsab85 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:09 pm

Ours is dealt with by NWEURO8, and one month overdue (i.e. seven months old).

I just sent a formal complaint to the Customer Complains Department, Rob Whiteman, and put my local MP on cc. Lets see if I can get some traction on it now.

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Post by spike_UK » Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:58 pm

dsab85 wrote:Ours is dealt with by NWEURO8, and one month overdue (i.e. seven months old).

I just sent a formal complaint to the Customer Complains Department, Rob Whiteman, and put my local MP on cc. Lets see if I can get some traction on it now.
Hi dsab85, what is NWEURO8? mine was the same(I guess group or person) and I complained to the people you have mentioned and with in 3 weeks I got my PR, good luck and i hope you will get it soon.
Applied for EEA4 on 24/02/2012.
HO received on 27/02/2012.
Refusal received on 16/08/2012 dated 11/08/2012
At the court, the HO REP withdrawn the decision and asked me to send the DOC for the time before marriage.
PR dated 05/03/2013

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Post by nadsul » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:37 pm

Great day today, as i just ring HO on friday and someone very nice there confrim me that its in final stage, but today i receive a call from my solicitor that my PR has received today, so YES i got my PR this afternoon from his office, thanks to allmighty ALLAH. All i say, it was stressful time to wait for, especially after 6 months. Good luck to all who are waiting.
Here is the short stroy of my PR process...
EEA4 applied in mid-september 2012
COA received in mid-october 2012
PR received today, 26/03/13
So, alltogether it takes 6 months and 2 weeks :)

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Post by nidaulhaque » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:18 pm

spike_UK wrote:
dsab85 wrote:Ours is dealt with by NWEURO8, and one month overdue (i.e. seven months old).

I just sent a formal complaint to the Customer Complains Department, Rob Whiteman, and put my local MP on cc. Lets see if I can get some traction on it now.
Hi dsab85, what is NWEURO8? mine was the same(I guess group or person) and I complained to the people you have mentioned and with in 3 weeks I got my PR, good luck and i hope you will get it soon.
Hi

Yes it's a team of people, I believe they will refuse my application as well as spike uk application refused on the basics of marriage

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Post by spike_UK » Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:56 am

nidaulhaque wrote:
spike_UK wrote:
dsab85 wrote:Ours is dealt with by NWEURO8, and one month overdue (i.e. seven months old).

I just sent a formal complaint to the Customer Complains Department, Rob Whiteman, and put my local MP on cc. Lets see if I can get some traction on it now.
Hi dsab85, what is NWEURO8? mine was the same(I guess group or person) and I complained to the people you have mentioned and with in 3 weeks I got my PR, good luck and i hope you will get it soon.
Hi

Yes it's a team of people, I believe they will refuse my application as well as spike uk application refused on the basics of marriage
Don't think like that, even they refuse with appeal right, you will win at the end
Applied for EEA4 on 24/02/2012.
HO received on 27/02/2012.
Refusal received on 16/08/2012 dated 11/08/2012
At the court, the HO REP withdrawn the decision and asked me to send the DOC for the time before marriage.
PR dated 05/03/2013

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Post by nidaulhaque » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:37 pm

hi,
yes spike uk hopefully but u know it will delay the application and can take upto year or long never know!!!!


anyway hope to get good news as the case worker called helen collins was quick to send passport back. i sent u pm plz reply if u can


spike_UK wrote:
nidaulhaque wrote:
spike_UK wrote:
dsab85 wrote:Ours is dealt with by NWEURO8, and one month overdue (i.e. seven months old).

I just sent a formal complaint to the Customer Complains Department, Rob Whiteman, and put my local MP on cc. Lets see if I can get some traction on it now.
Hi dsab85, what is NWEURO8? mine was the same(I guess group or person) and I complained to the people you have mentioned and with in 3 weeks I got my PR, good luck and i hope you will get it soon.
Hi

Yes it's a team of people, I believe they will refuse my application as well as spike uk application refused on the basics of marriage
Don't think like that, even they refuse with appeal right, you will win at the end

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EEA 4 and EEA 3 PR received

Post by Parada » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:55 am

Hi guys,
I just got a lovely envelope from my postman and it was from HO! Just to give a timeline and some hope to guys who applied for EEA 4 and EEA 3.
Applications sent 19/10/2012.
COA received 24/10/12.
PR for both my husband (EEA national, blue endorsement card) and myself (non EEA national, PR endorsement in passport) stamped 25/03/2013 and received today, 28/03/2013.
Phew, happy days (dances a jig around a living room)!

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Re: EEA 4 and EEA 3 PR received

Post by spike_UK » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:08 pm

Parada wrote:Hi guys,
I just got a lovely envelope from my postman and it was from HO! Just to give a timeline and some hope to guys who applied for EEA 4 and EEA 3.
Applications sent 19/10/2012.
COA received 24/10/12.
PR for both my husband (EEA national, blue endorsement card) and myself (non EEA national, PR endorsement in passport) stamped 25/03/2013 and received today, 28/03/2013.
Phew, happy days (dances a jig around a living room)!
Congrats, guys now im planing for BT what do I have to do? if I only apply for it by using PR what do I have to do? do I only need PR and life in uk test certificate or what else? Many thanks
Applied for EEA4 on 24/02/2012.
HO received on 27/02/2012.
Refusal received on 16/08/2012 dated 11/08/2012
At the court, the HO REP withdrawn the decision and asked me to send the DOC for the time before marriage.
PR dated 05/03/2013

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Post by darthsolicitortobe » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:21 pm

I received my PR today- 28/03/13

My timeline:

1. Applied on 10/10/12;
2. Received by HO 11/10/12;
3. COA received 24/10/12 dated 17/10/12;
4. PR received 28/03/13 dated 14/03/13.

I have read this forum extensively since October, and the best nuggets of advice I can give, to tip the scales in favour of success are:

1. Pray. God blesses all efforts;
2. Be organised i.e. don't leave the HO with any additional work. Make sure all documents are in chronological order, and you have a covering letter explaining all the documents you sent, in the order they are arranged in the envelope. BRIEFLY highlight all you have sent;
3. Make sure you write in standard English when explaining any complicated matters. Very important. Ask a friend if you aren't fluent.
4. Pray some more.

I'm not saying this is what led to my PR being granted, but clearly it didn't hurt my application.

Also, I didn't bother applying for EEA3 for my European wife. I don't quite understand why many EEA4 applicants think they have to do this before/ during applying for their PR! Can someone enlighten me? Thanks.

Good luck everyone. I will still be checking on this forum regularly. I am more than happy to be of help, where possible, to one and all.

Aluta Continua.

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Post by Imshzd » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:38 pm

darthsolicitortobe wrote:I received my PR today- 28/03/13

My timeline:

1. Applied on 10/10/12;
2. Received by HO 11/10/12;
3. COA received 24/10/12 dated 17/10/12;
4. PR received 28/03/13 dated 14/03/13.

I have read this forum extensively since October, and the best nuggets of advice I can give, to tip the scales in favour of success are:

1. Pray. God blesses all efforts;
2. Be organised i.e. don't leave the HO with any additional work. Make sure all documents are in chronological order, and you have a covering letter explaining all the documents you sent, in the order they are arranged in the envelope. BRIEFLY highlight all you have sent;
3. Make sure you write in standard English when explaining any complicated matters. Very important.

Aluta Continua.
I endorse what you wrote...

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Post by Plum70 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:49 pm

It is reassuring to see some PR confirmations coming through especially for October applicants of which I am one.

As my application is still pending and 2 weeks to the 6-month mark, I have taken the liberty of sending a reminder letter (by SD) to the UKBA asking if they require any further supporting docs to facilitate the conclusion of my application. This will perhaps prompt them to fish out my application if still in a forlorn pile.

I will keep this group posted.

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Post by yankeegirl » Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:10 pm

I'm glad to see progress is being made. Congrats to those who have received their PR.

My application was sent off the last week in September; I didn't receive the CoA until January. We put in a request to get my husband's passport back last week, and I am hoping that they decide to just send it all back with the decision. This waiting sucks!

Best of luck to all those still waiting.

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Post by dsab85 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:41 am

After I lodged a complaint with the Complaints Department and Mr. Whiteman (with my local MP on cc) we just received our documents back with the residence card.

EEA4 sent 03 September 2012
EEA4 received by UKBA on 04 September 2012
Requested return of EU Spouse Passport 26 September 2012
EU Spouse Passport returned 02 October 2012
COA received 12 October 2012 (dated 09 October 2012)
Sent complaint on 25 March 2013
Received Response from EU application Teamlead that application has been processed and was provided with Tracking # on 27 of March 2013
Received PR and documents on 02 April 2013

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Post by giruzz » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:35 am

My gf and I have been waiting for 6 months and 1 day.

I have just called the home office and they are saying to just 'wait' there is nothing they can do.

giruzz

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Post by dasjoker » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:46 am

spike_UK wrote:Thanks mate, you can read all my posts and I had a strange story,, well it wasnt strange but nobody was agree with me but I was right and I won :)
Here is all information:
I lived with my EEA spouse from January 2007 and got married on November 2008 got my RC on 2009 which ends 2014.
I applied for PR on February 2012( 5 yrs of relationship with my EEA meeting all the requirement as treaty rights and residance) regardless 5 yrs marriage or RC. I got refused on August 2012 with appeal, appeal was withdrew by homoffice and asking documents before marriage!! I got PR this week dated 05/03/2013 :)
Now I'm not waiting for 1 year to go over PR, I will now apply for Naturalization based on 6 yrs durable relationship(January 2007-2013)
If you have the same story, don't hesitate and read UKBA website. Good luck mate.
I am going to apply in June based on living together 2 year and 3 years marriage. I am planning to write an cover letter each steps with the proofs but my only concern is I am planning to apply without passports since it is summer and we are planning to go summer holidays and also in september we have to attend 2 wedding outside of UK. What do you guys think is it possible to apply without passport?

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Post by spike_UK » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:59 am

dasjoker wrote:
spike_UK wrote:Thanks mate, you can read all my posts and I had a strange story,, well it wasnt strange but nobody was agree with me but I was right and I won :)
Here is all information:
I lived with my EEA spouse from January 2007 and got married on November 2008 got my RC on 2009 which ends 2014.
I applied for PR on February 2012( 5 yrs of relationship with my EEA meeting all the requirement as treaty rights and residance) regardless 5 yrs marriage or RC. I got refused on August 2012 with appeal, appeal was withdrew by homoffice and asking documents before marriage!! I got PR this week dated 05/03/2013 :)
Now I'm not waiting for 1 year to go over PR, I will now apply for Naturalization based on 6 yrs durable relationship(January 2007-2013)
If you have the same story, don't hesitate and read UKBA website. Good luck mate.
I am going to apply in June based on living together 2 year and 3 years marriage. I am planning to write an cover letter each steps with the proofs but my only concern is I am planning to apply without passports since it is summer and we are planning to go summer holidays and also in september we have to attend 2 wedding outside of UK. What do you guys think is it possible to apply without passport?
A refuse, as your case is not very strong based on what you planning, you might go for your holidays then come back and apply.
I applied same as you(3.5 years marriage+1.5 year before marriage) still got refused but won at the end(13 months). Good luck mate
Applied for EEA4 on 24/02/2012.
HO received on 27/02/2012.
Refusal received on 16/08/2012 dated 11/08/2012
At the court, the HO REP withdrawn the decision and asked me to send the DOC for the time before marriage.
PR dated 05/03/2013

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