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EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Use this section for queries concerning applications on any of the EEA series of forms, and also for applications for EEA Family Permits.

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sanu84
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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by sanu84 » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:53 pm

Sabby_00 wrote:Hi Sanu84,

Can I ask, what number did you call to check on your status?
I called 0300 123 2253
9/8/09-Arrived in the UK

31/3/10-EEA1&EEA2
1/7/10-RC dated 28/6

1/9/14-EEA3&EEA4
14/11/14-PR dated 9/11

10/8/15-AN
24/10/15-Approval dated 20/10
18/11/15-Ceremony

6/2/16-BP
29/2/16-Approval
14/3/16-Interview
16/3/16-BP dated 14/3/16

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by behold2014 » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:12 pm

@ sabby_oo

i meant i didnt send a covering letter with my application just to explain my whole application and why i only sent my eea spouse PR and didnt include any p60 or anything.

as some caseworker dont understand this.

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by sanu84 » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:13 am

I just received my PR today. Here is my timeline:

EEA3 & EEA4 Applications Sent: 1/9/2014
Applications received by Durham HO: 2/9/2014
Application fees taken from credit card: 3/9/2014
Reference letter received for EEA3: 8/9/2014 dated 3/9/2014
Reference letter received for EEA4: 10/9/2014 dated 3/9/2014
Home Office application email received: 15/9/2014
COA received: 15/9/2014 dated 12/9/2014
PR Card Received: 14/11/2014 dated 9/11/2014

Supporting documents sent:
- Mariage certificate
- 5 years council tax bill
- Interview letters (job seeking period)
- 5 years p60 (employment period)
- last 3 month payslips

Good luck to everyone who is waiting!
9/8/09-Arrived in the UK

31/3/10-EEA1&EEA2
1/7/10-RC dated 28/6

1/9/14-EEA3&EEA4
14/11/14-PR dated 9/11

10/8/15-AN
24/10/15-Approval dated 20/10
18/11/15-Ceremony

6/2/16-BP
29/2/16-Approval
14/3/16-Interview
16/3/16-BP dated 14/3/16

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by ninjaman » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:22 pm

@sanu84

Congratulation,mate.

I am eagerly awaiting the outcome of my application which was sent in mid September.

I am hoping and praying that I will get my PR soon.

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by kimo » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:26 pm

ninjaman Me too we are in the same boat ! Send my application in mid September , called home office 2 days ago and they told me still my application in progress :| hopefully we hear some good new soon

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by kimo » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:28 pm

ninjaman Me too we are in the same boat ! Send my application in mid September , called home office 2 days ago and they told me still my application in progress :| hopefully we hear some good new soon

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by sanu84 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:40 pm

Thx ninjaman.

Just so you know my PR was issued on 9 November. I called on 11/11 and was told my application was still in progress. I called again on 14/11 and was told my PR was sent on 12/11. I guess the application status will be under consideration until the PR is sent out.
9/8/09-Arrived in the UK

31/3/10-EEA1&EEA2
1/7/10-RC dated 28/6

1/9/14-EEA3&EEA4
14/11/14-PR dated 9/11

10/8/15-AN
24/10/15-Approval dated 20/10
18/11/15-Ceremony

6/2/16-BP
29/2/16-Approval
14/3/16-Interview
16/3/16-BP dated 14/3/16

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by kimo » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:32 am

sanu84 wrote:Thx ninjaman.

Just so you know my PR was issued on 9 November. I called on 11/11 and was told my application was still in progress. I called again on 14/11 and was told my PR was sent on 12/11. I guess the application status will be under consideration until the PR is sent out.
Sanu84. Thank you for sharing this information. I will try and call them today again , hopefully so good news. Thank you

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by WANRAWIN » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:00 am

Hi all, just want to share my experiance.

Eea4 unmarried partner

I sent my application for eea4 on 20/08/2014. And it was grant on 13/11/2014. I was scared at first because i have only sent fews support documents with me. I have seen many post that provide paper from the past 5 years , so i thought oh no , i may have not sent enough , prepare myself for rejection:(

I have sent my children 's birth certificates , my partner ID , 1 of my partner recent pay slip, 3 of our household bills and my passport...

Oh , also , HO had called my partner work place about a week before my PR was granted .

Good luck to everyone

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by ole-infanta » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:50 pm

Hi Guys! Does anyone know if there is a kind of a queue there? I sent my EEA4 application on 7 September and still waiting...

Also, does anyone know of HO check EU national place of work...?

Thank you.

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by chaoclive » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:58 pm

ole-infanta wrote:Hi Guys! Does anyone know if there is a kind of a queue there? I sent my EEA4 application on 7 September and still waiting...

Also, does anyone know of HO check EU national place of work...?

Thank you.
Just over 2 months isn't a very long time. They can take up to 6 months after all. Just sit tight.

Did you get the COA?

Also, they probably will call the EU citizen's place of work. They can check.

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by Sab10 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:59 pm

Hi Guys

I`m new to this forum. I sent EEA3 & EEA4 Applications jointly on 05 Nov 2014 and received my Reference Letter dated 09 Nov 2014 but haven`t received COA yet. How long does it take ? Or is the Reference Letter and COA same thing ?

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by chaoclive » Thu Nov 27, 2014 5:57 pm

Sab10 wrote:Hi Guys

I`m new to this forum. I sent EEA3 & EEA4 Applications jointly on 05 Nov 2014 and received my Reference Letter dated 09 Nov 2014 but haven`t received COA yet. How long does it take ? Or is the Reference Letter and COA same thing ?
The 2 letters are not the same thing. The reference letter should be issued as soon as they receive your application and the COA is (normally) sent about 2 weeks later (depending on how busy they are) when they check your case. You could definitely write to them at the address that is on your reference letter. I did this.

If you're not in a rush for the COA, I wouldn't worry too much.

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by Sab10 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:03 pm

Thanx
chaoclive wrote:
Sab10 wrote:Hi Guys

I`m new to this forum. I sent EEA3 & EEA4 Applications jointly on 05 Nov 2014 and received my Reference Letter dated 09 Nov 2014 but haven`t received COA yet. How long does it take ? Or is the Reference Letter and COA same thing ?
The 2 letters are not the same thing. The reference letter should be issued as soon as they receive your application and the COA is (normally) sent about 2 weeks later (depending on how busy they are) when they check your case. You could definitely write to them at the address that is on your reference letter. I did this.

If you're not in a rush for the COA, I wouldn't worry too much.

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by behold2014 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:49 pm

anyone sent EEA4 in september and received it yet??

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by behold2014 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:50 pm

anyone sent EEA4 in september and received it yet??

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by Stones » Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:35 pm

Help! Help!! help!!! help!!!!
To all who can help including moderatros!!!

I want to write a reconsideration letter for refusal reason as below: Just do not know how or where to start.
Note. I now have decree absolute!!!!
Any body who can should let me know I am looking up to especially moderators like Obie, vinney, EUsmile, ca funke etc, etc, who have been brilliant on similar cases!!!


Hi all

I am seriously laughing out loudly as I composed this comments.
reason is they ask me for feedback on their services. I simply wrote Assholes!!!

EEA4 submitted 15/08/2014 received by H.O 18/08/2014 COA dated 28/08/2014.

PR refused on the 18/10/2014 just received today.

Reason I divorced in a church so the certificate from the church is not acceptable.

They quoted Regulation 10(5)(a) and that '' you have failed to provide a valid divorce certificate and therefore there is no evidence that the marriage has been terminated and you cannot therefore retain a right of residence until decree absolute is obtained. The divorce certificate you provided is not a substantive evidence of divorce. This department need to see a decree absolute as evidence of your divorce. You have failed to provide evidence that you meet the requirement of regulation 10 (5) and you have therefore not retain a right of residence following divorce or that you have resided under the regulation for 5 continuous years to qualify for permanent residence. Therefore a decision have been made to refuse to issue the confirmation that you seek under regulation 15 (1)(f) with reference to regulation 10(5)''

background Married in June 2009 leaved together until divorce in Aug 2014.

Original post


My EEA4 submitted on the 15/08/2014
received 18/08/2014
payment taken 22/08/2014.
Now the waiting begins.
Can anyone advice how long and what to expect.
I got divorce this month from a local church not in a court although got married in U.K in a Anglican Church.
I submitted for every year since 2009 p60 for 5 years joint bills both gas and elec, water bills some payslips including the divorce certificate from the local church.
My passport, my p60 and tax returns forms
NO EEA National I.D or Passport due to refusal of helping
I have read some people saying without the I.D I will be refused is that correct?

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by newuser2 » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:36 am

Hi all

This is my timeline for EEA4 Permanent Residence.

EEA4 Application Sent: 27/08/2014
Application received by HO: 28/08/2014
EEA4 fee (£55 debit card) taken: 29/08/2014
Reference letter received: 03/09/2014 (dated 29/08/2014)
Certificate Of Application letter received: 13/09/2014 (dated 28/08/2014)

Called HO on 27/11/14 for status : still processing
Permanent Residence Card received: waiting....

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by newuser2 » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:41 am

correction there

Certificate Of Application letter received: 13/09/2014 (dated 08/09/2014)

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by ninjaman » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:38 am

hi everyone,

I have good news to share, I received my PR on thursday (I missed the postman and collected it on friday).

Iam so happy I cant explain it.

I wish all of you still waiting, the best of luck.

This is just a quick post..in a few days time I will post my timeline.( i applied sept 15, 2014)

good luck

#keepbelieving
Last edited by ninjaman on Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by kimo » Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:48 am

ninjaman wrote:hi everyone,

I have good news to share, I received my PR on thursday (I missed the postman and collected it on friday).

Iam so happy I cant explain it.

I wish all of you still waiting, the best of luck.

This is just a quick post..in a few days time I will post my timeline.( i applied sept 11, 2014)

good luck

#keepbelieving
Congratulation,mate. Can you tell us when u did u send ur application ?

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by ecogle » Mon Dec 01, 2014 5:41 pm

After few refusals

finally I got my PR

EEA3 & EEA4 Sent - 09/09/2014
received confirmation in few days
received COA in couple of weeks
PR received 27/09/2014 dated 25/09/14

Thanks for group members and all the best for applicants.

regards
Ecogle

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by ninjaman » Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:44 pm

@kimo, thank you, mate.
@kimo + @board members here is my time line.

Application sent: 15 September 2014 (Not 11 September As stated before)
Payment was taken: 17 September 2014
Certificate Of Application Letter Sent: 23 September 2014
HO email Received: 24 September 2014
Permanent Residence Card Received: 27 November 2014 (Dated Saturday 22 November 2014)
Total Time: Roughly 2 Months + 2 Weeks (~10 Weeks or ~70 Days)

My thanks goes to all those who helped me and answering my questions and giving me advice.
without you guys I would have been lost.

I would like to wish you all, those who are still waiting, good luck!

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by Hanaali » Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:21 am

Hi all,

I am very new to this forum and will appreciate positive feedbacks please. Below are the recap of my journey;

Came to UK in 2006 after my EEA Uncle who arrived in 2005.
I am an Extended Family Member of an EEA National
Lived together with Uncle and my wife had our first child in 2006 in Kent, UK
Both myself and wife applied for EEA 2 in 2008 and RCs were granted in 2009
I have being in work since 2008 till date I.e. Registered Self Employments (2008-till date) for myself and Wife with Tax Returns completed every year, PAYE Employment for myself and I am on a good salary since 2009 when RCs were received till date.
Left Uncle's House in 2009 to live with my family before bought our own 4-Bedroom House in 2011
I now have 3 Children all born in UK, own over £200,000 Property/Mortgage, pays all my bills regularly, volunteered in the UK Electioneering Campaign both Local and National and so on.
Relationship between myself and my Uncle have being up and down due to my resistance of domineering nature by uncle, constant arguments and jealousy.
Uncle separated from his family this year and told me this year August when he paid me condolence visit after lost of my parents that he would be living UK.
Since August this year, I have been unable to contact my uncle, moved out of his rental house and his telephone is not working anymore.
Solicitor advised that EEA4 Form (Retained Right of Residence) due to departure of my a Uncle from UK must be submitted for all the family.
EEA4 submitted on Nov.5th 2014
HO received EEA4 on the 6th Nov.2014
CC debited with full money for the whole family on 7th Nov.2014 with receipt received on 14/11/2014.
COA dated 25th Nov.2014 was received on 27th Nov.2014. (My COA and that of my wife read 'Employment can not be confirmed because we did not submit all original documents of the following 'evidence of my sponsor exercising Treaty rights' while my children COAs mentioned insufficient original Treaty rights documents and proof of their relationship with EEA sponsor were not submitted despite that they are my children and long and short birth certificates were submitted.
Email was also sent to me on the 26th Nov.2014 confirmed that our applications are being considered and that it may take upto 6 months.

Followings were some of the documents submitted with EEA4 Form;
Sworn Affidavit made reference to Reg.10 (5c and 5d(iv); 6a and 6b), Reg.15 (1 f(i) and f(ii) having satisfied Reg.7(3), Reg.6(1b,c and e) and Reg.8(4 and 6); EC Work Instruction Chapter 2 (s.7.1a and 7.1c) and Chapter 6 (s.2 and 6.2 Completion of 5 Years Residence after ror).
5 Years a Employment Payslips, P60s, HMRC Tax Returns, NI Contribution were submitted
UK Land Registry Documents, Mortgage Statement and Bank Statements
5 Years Council Tax Bills, TV Licence, Utility Bills, Education Records (children and my OU Degree Results Statement, Pension Documents, EHIC Cards for all the family
Birth Certificates, Marriage Certificates including those of my children and that of my late mother who was related to Uncle.

My Questions are;
Although I am an Extended Family Member of EEA National, Why COA with unconfirmed right to work and does it have any implication on my current work?
Can I request for a revised COA? Please note that they said that they will not revisit the term of the COA while my Application is being considered.
Having applied through ROR where my 5 Years Employment should be regarded as Treaty Rights, why quoted in the COA that I have not submitted all original Treaty Exercise Documents of my Sponsor who I have already informed that he has left UK
Having submitted all my children's BCs (Long and Short), why quoted in their COAs that proof of their relationship with EEA National were not all submitted.
How Long can it take HO before issuing PR please?
In 2012, I appealed against refusal to grant my mother in law a visiting visa and the appeal was granted and Visa issued. Could this have any impact?

Your prompt help and advise are very valuable and highly appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: EEA4 fast processing times or wishful thinking

Post by kkuk » Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:49 pm

Hey guys,

Just an update regarding our EEA3/4 application

We were called for an interview after requesting to prioritise
PR applications.
Were invited for interview which was held today.
About 90 questions asked from both of us, got couple of questions mixed up but everything else went smoothly.
Got the interview printed once we were done and noticed a couple of typing mistakes, a lots of spelling errors etc.

For example earning I told them 700/800 per month and she typed 700/800 per week and then 180/200 per week!!
But obviously interview was audio recorded so I hope caseworker may hear the tape to rectify/clear the misunderstanding.
Overall very confident. May hear something in a week or two.
Special thanks to Chaoclive who answered every query.



Will keep you lot updated.

Regards

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