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docteurbenway wrote:I would also strongly suggest that we write to:
Mina Andreeva (+32 2 299 13 82) and Natasha Bertaud (+32 2 296 74 56).
They are the spokespersons for the European Commission behind this press release:
http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAct ... anguage=en
We need to ask them about the EC's stance on this.
I have done so already and am awaiting reply. I urge you to do the same.
Their E-mails are as follows:
Mina.Andreeva@ec.europa.eu
and
Natasha.Bertaud@ec.europa.eu
Remember the more E-mails we write to them, the better are our chances of getting a reply, so please do write and call and share your experiences here.
Thank you.
UPDATE:
Here is the reply:
Dear Mr. ....,
On 26 April the European Commission sent a reasoned opinion to the UK authorities requesting they comply with EU rules on the free movement of EU citizens. This follows the letter of formal notice sent on 22 June 2011.
The case is on-going. You can learn more about the process for the European Commission's infringement proceedings here: http://ec.europa.eu/eu_law/infringement ... nts_en.htm
I am afraid that reasoned opinions addressed to Member States are not public documents and we are thus unable to disclose it to you.
It would be at the discretion of the British authorities to do so.
Best regards,
Natasha BERTAUD
Press Officer for Justice, Fundamental Rights and Citizenship
docteurbenway wrote:Not directly related to the thread, but here is some fun reading material while we wait:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19944072
.The Mail on Sunday reported that the education secretary believed it was time to tell the EU to "give us back our sovereignty or we will walk out"
You just keep writing the way I am doing. Have you contacted your MP? I need to get hold of mine (raised by the Home Office to the Peerage!)mstevens wrote:The ICO is completely ignoring me and my complaint re: UKBA.
Next step?
Something smells odd. Must be election season again!The Mail on Sunday reported that the education secretary believed it was time to tell the EU to "give us back our sovereignty or we will walk out"
Stop worrying yourself, there are million of eea citizen and their families apart from spouse here in UK, they will have a big job on their hand and moreover, if they want you to leave then your eea member too must leave first.ruben7 wrote:I ask the Gurus and Moderators to give your opinion on this matter. I have been reading about this situation from different sources, and I am sure there are lots of people here who are very concerned about this matter, I am certainly one of them.
I know that these new rules are not going to happen by tomorrow or in a week, but most probably they would happen. I know that there are hundreds, thousands of couples all over the world who are planning on coming to the UK.
So I will like to know what some of the Gurus and Moderators who are so knowledgeable on this matters can advice people on this forum.
A few questions :
1-) Can it happen ?
2-)When would it happen ?
3-) What would happen to the people or couples that are married to EU Citizens living in the UK and are NON-EU nationals themselves or like in my case I still dont have a passport from my wife's EU country ?
4-) Would they kick us out ?
5-) What about all the couples that are planning on coming here ?
So many questions, so many concerns.... and at the end of the day we all want to just be with our couples and have a good life !
Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar" We all want to work and eat bread from the sweat that runs down from our foreheads due to our daily work
It's a shame that some people don't realize this.
Hi Martin,mstevens wrote:Finally received a response from the UKBA to my FOI request.
See response here:
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/1 ... sponse.pdf
Have read through. The response seems like a complete palm off but want to get other people's thoughts on this.
I think if we collectively dissect this letter and share comments - then maybe we can come together and draft a suitable reply to the UKBA on this?
No such thing as the Lille loophole anymore. UKBA implemented passport checks on the arrival at St. Pancras. At least I've passed through such checks the last couple of times I've used the Eurostar. They check the stamped boarding pass and passport.docteurbenway wrote: So options are either travel by car/ferry from Calais or use the Lille loophole. Since EEA Family permits are not mandatory both options work in 90% of cases. It does however require nerves of steel.
So far the most easily accessible part of the UK is Northern Ireland. Again all of this does not make any sense and our only hope is the ECJ.
Still no news, but here is a funny article to cheer us up while we wait:onlineamiga wrote:So any update on this ECJ threat from Europe? Is the EU Commission going to continue sitting on their mule whilst the UK continues to get away with denying people their fundamental European free movement rights?
Very very interesting. Can you please provide as much more detail as possible.kyky wrote:Surprisingly to me, Ryanair admitted that they did a mistake when refusing to board my wife on a flight from Germany to London. I am non-UK EU-citizen and my wife is non-EU citizen holding a non-UK EU residence card. They issued a 250 euro compensation according to regulation 261/2004. I would suggest to everyone who has been refused boarding by Ryanair in this situation to claim this compensation. I don't think they have a good reason to grant it on one case and refuse it in another.
Further more, Ryanair said they have instructed their stuff accordingly. If true, this would mean that Ryanair is now officially boarding passengers without a family permit visa.
I find it silly posturing. Don't worry about it.docteurbenway wrote:Some very troubling news out of the UK:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... rists.html
"The Prime Minister suggested only working immigrants should be allowed into the country, even if it means undermining the EU's key principle of "free movement"."